i thinkt the armor nerf was good... but 500? lol too much....
100-300 i understand but 500 lel
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i thinkt the armor nerf was good... but 500? lol too much....
100-300 i understand but 500 lel
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We talking about same low geared or both higer geared rogue and war,
Full geared war shouldnt get that dmg "IF" rogue get armor nerf,
They was start fair before armor nerf, rogue get more armor-war get more dmg.
Look now even rogue get over nerf of armor also crit nerf, warior still can make alot dmg.
Where is the balance?
If war a tank they shouldnt be a damager too because they become "selfish" in map when they get more dmg and rogue burn like paper.
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im fine with the crit nerf. but nerfing our armor îs way too much already. i understand that you are doing this for pvp, but pls also think about the people in pve who run elite maps and the arena.
If you think your average gear should be able to compete with my max gear, you have serious balance issues. You should be competitive with someone that has similar gear with you which is how it was BEFORE the update. Now, it has completely ruined this.
I've always supported warrior buff and Mage buff, this is thanks I get for that? I think that we rogues should remember this next time other classes are requesting a re balance yet again.
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Hell no. I don't want weak warriors if that'a what it takes to feel strong as a rogue again. Besides, weak warriors are useless in a party because even more than before rogues depend on warriors being the first to take aggro, maintain it and heal when rogues can't pot fast enough. PvE was great for everyone after the new weapons that help warriors maintain aggro and deal sizable damage. I don't want them weakened. I just don't see why rogues have to be weakened in the process. The three classes were working side by side well just before the update.
Sad. Hope they bring back our armor. Alot quit rogs about this armor nerf.
Agreed, I truly don't get this selfish behavior when on many occasions, rogue players have helped support buffs when they were needed. And personally, I've never asked for a nerf on other classes, I've only asked them to become stronger.
This current armor change makes a rogue downright unplayable. Keep in mind that I have 6K HP and I still drop like a rock if anything so much as looks as me now. 1.8K armor was an armor rating that was acceptable 2 seasons ago...
However, that being said. It's my firm belief that STG is closely paying attention so I encourage that we keep our heads and don't insult them for this. Instead, work on providing the feedback that they need to properly fix things!
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I feel like the nerf is for pve and with next to no concern regarding to pvp (which is why pvp is unbalanced now)
I think the reason that rogues got armor nerf because they can pretty much 4 rogue an elite easily. So by doing this, it would require help from other classes.
As for about armor for elite maps and arena.... Us mages have less armor than you (and I know some mages can do elite without shield)
Nope. I can say the same, arguing that this armor nerf has its root in pvp and with no thought or concern for the pve side of things. But the reality is whether in pve or pvp this armor nerf is unnecessary and hugely damaging, not just to rogues but to three-class balance as a whole. The new warrior weps, their glintstone set, these had made it very rewarding to have a warrior in party. Mages weapons have also been a great contributor to overall run efficiency with party buffs and the consecrate. I ran a lot of elite every day before the update and made a lot of new, improved personal elite time records with a warrior in party, but don't take it just from me. Many rogues will say the same. If you had run a lot of elite content every day before the new client you would know that there was even less focus on dps-only, or even rogue-only, runs. It had been great for the three classes. The new client gives us less crit overall, more damage through passive across the classes. But only the rogues get to have their back broken with the armor nerf.
I don't mind this armour and crit reduction as long as they remove our dmg nerf in pvp. An eye for an eye.
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This was a pretty surprising nerf but I feel like there is something we are missing. It would seem that just reducing the armor of the upcoming gear would have been a better move than lowering our base armor. That being said lets hope that there is a reasonable explanation for this when the expansion hits or Sts helps us get some of our armor stats back. For all we know the new upcoming armor could provide some impressive stats and combined with the armor we already had it would be too much. I just hope this gets worked out without too much rogue bloodshed.
Normally, as a pve rouge (L46), a hit from elite boss/arena boss will take 70-95% of my total hp but luckily we got potions to the rescue. Unfortunately STS has decided to banish 15-20% of our armor without any explanation which is very disappointing. So what do you expect, instant death! We ROUGES farm arena, but now it's the arena farming us. Please be considerate before you make updates, it's not that we complain, we loved and played AL for months and years, but such update is killing our class. We hope to hear your response STS.
Thank you.
Just in case you wonder how much is my current hp;
its 5Kplus without pet (can u imagine an instant death from a 5k hp, how much more for those lower than my stats!) It's very unfair..
" We want our armor back"
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Yes the arena farm is too hard for us Rogues , I just don't understand why only we had changes taken . It's not right
Yes the nerf was not fair... it simple crushed all rogues
Now that rogues see less tanky, that just means you have to play smarter than before. I used to simply tank red zones from most bosses seeing as they wouldn't kill me either way. No I've got to in the habit of actually trying to avoid hits that I know will kill me now that I'm a potato. Though this doesn't apply in Pvp, and STS should look into balancing that... *cough* give us our DMG in Pvp *cough*
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We finally might see more variety in team setups. I agree with the rogue armor nerf. Every time I run with pugs in PVE, its a bunch of warriors that are most likely having trouble finding teams.
+1 to ravager, its arcane legends not rogue legends, teams will finally include tanks since rogues wont be able to pot spam the map out
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