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    fart emotes (sick)

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    Emote packs - Yay! (please make "FART PACK" mutable though)
    GCD - Booo
    Purchasable Revive - Boo
    New BS set bonuses - Yay!
    Vyx Helm - Ohhhhhh Yea!

    Require Pw to join friends games - Booo, please add a toggle switch that requires friends to have PW also, this is going to be a pain in the.....having to pm a friend for the pw to their game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krazii View Post

    Require Pw to join friends games - Booo, please add a toggle switch that requires friends to have PW also, this is going to be a pain in the.....having to pm a friend for the pw to their game.

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    Yeah its gonna be a bit tedious, especially when having the same group for hours end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellyidol View Post
    Yeah its gonna be a bit tedious, especially when having the same group for hours end.
    Just going to have a copy and paste message saying. My password is "so and so"
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    Quote Originally Posted by rangepwnsmeel View Post
    Just going to have a copy and paste message saying. My password is "so and so"
    Mmm true, that too.

    But I mean, joining the same host over and over would also mean typing the same password over and over? And the host would have to be typing the same password over and over to create too?

    I think I'll be creating open games more, even if we're full. More people to boot =/

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    I would have figured invited friends would not need a pw. Hope that becomes the case.

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    Is there anyone here who actually thinks this plat for rev is a good idea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FluffNStuff View Post
    I would have figured invited friends would not need a pw. Hope that becomes the case.
    Same. Ideally, only invited friends or friends with the password should be able to join.
    And you should be able to save the same password so you don't have to type it in each time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesrider View Post
    Is there anyone here who actually thinks this plat for rev is a good idea?
    If our only mage dies in final cave, and uses 1 plat, which ultimately saves our group and I get the new Vyx helm, then I like it

    But those things need to happen first. Until then, I'm not really for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ellyidol View Post
    If our only mage dies in final cave, and uses 1 plat, which ultimately saves our group and I get the new Vyx helm, then I like it

    But those things need to happen first. Until then, I'm not really for it.
    That's exactly what I mean, though. Why should the only Mage have to spend his/her plat to keep the rest of the team from having to do so (or walk)? It's not like you can give the person plat to make it more fair.
    I think buying revs is ridiculous in any case, but making it for plat is a whole lot worse than making it available for gold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesrider View Post
    That's exactly what I mean, though. Why should the only Mage have to spend his/her plat to keep the rest of the team from having to do so (or walk)? It's not like you can give the person plat to make it more fair.
    I think buying revs is ridiculous in any case, but making it for plat is a whole lot worse than making it available for gold.
    Fair argument

    Mages can argue that if everyone gets a 1 plat-skill that only mages have, why don't they get a 1 plat option that lets them buff/use other class skills.

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    ugh should have bought a sewer robe cheap. lol
    this sounds like a great update tho thanks devs !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lesrider View Post
    Is there anyone here who actually thinks this plat for rev is a good idea?
    (Shield up for flaming)
    Okay...I can think of several situations where I personally would want the plat for rev option. Do I plan on using it on a regular basis just to save another mage from revving me or to save myself a run back? No.
    Do I like having the OPTION to rev myself so that I can get back into helping my party through a difficult part of a map? Yes. (Shadow Caves is a perfect example)
    I understand the many concerns about the expectation of party members for you to utilize this option but that is where I suggest you re-evaluate the party you are in.
    I mean....runs would be breezy if we all potted up with high end elixirs but rarely have I seen a group demand a player participate in potting up.
    There will always be idiots who set some weird rule...like must rev self, must super pot, must not be wearing Lucky Shamrock..... just don't play with them!

    Ultimately it is an option....use it or don't.
    *my 2 cents.....be nice its just an opinion

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    This is a great update. Only thing thats gonna be annoying is the password thing for farming teams but only a bit annoying. Overall I love it.

    The plat for rev is not a bad idea at least its a 1 plat and I would use it if I am the only mage and we are at the end of the stage or on a boss. This is gonna depend a lot on the group and now with the GCD pugs can be more of a pain than a challenge, we will just have to wait and see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by karmakali View Post
    (Shield up for flaming)
    Okay...I can think of several situations where I personally would want the plat for rev option.
    No need for the shield, differing opinions are always welcome, and in fact I too could think of some situations where I would like having the option. That being said, my issue with it is not that it is a problem for me, for you, or even all the other people that would post here. I feel I need to give voice to the people who don't post, the low level players.
    The way I see this being implemented is that the respawn button will now have a revive (1 Plat) option next to it, and for new players this is not going to look like an 'option', but a feature. Some will embrace it and we will have a whole 'generation' of self revivers, and some will be turned off by it, causing them to be turned off to the game. Think of your early experience with the game, meeting players and looking to form parties. And think of how much you died early in the game. The pressure to just hit the revive button and not look like a noob will be extremely high. It will be even worse if your mistake caused some else to die, and YOU cost THEM plat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by karmakali View Post
    I mean....runs would be breezy if we all potted up with high end elixirs but rarely have I seen a group demand a player participate in potting up.
    Really? Used to be done all the time when farming AO3 for the level 50 cap, and now again I see it done for Shadow Caves.

    But at least with pots you can buy them with gold, and no one can tell whether you spent platinum or not. This avoids any discussion of how much platinum a person has and how they can afford it, which is as it should be.

    Imagine what it would feel like if the group demanded of a player that he rez himself with platinum, and the player would have to explain that he can't afford it or won't spend platinum for whatever reason. I've seen kids flame each other before for not being able to afford plat ("you/your family must be really poor if you can't afford the [insert name of plat item here]"). It's not a pretty sight trust me. But at least it was kept to a minimum because plat items don't really affect anyone else and aren't that good for most things except twinking. This would be a very visible plat purchase that affects the whole group. Do you really want some people becoming popular because they always rez themselves with platinum (the way players who pot damage all the time are always welcome in groups now)?

    Yes hosts can boot for all sorts of silly reasons but none of them would hurt the way it would to be booted for not being able to spend real life money during a game. Requiring everyone to pot is not the same thing because people can pot with their game gold and many do; it's a mark of in-game achievement to have gathered enough gold to be able to pot; being able to buy platinum isn't.

    (Btw, none of the above was meant to flame anyone who expressed a different opinion. We need to hear all opinions so please keep posting them. I feel strongly about the issue but I'm not upset at anyone who disagrees with me.)
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    More good points, Kallielle. I agree.
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    mmmm I am thinking that the plat rev can get ugly at times. For us mages its gonna get even uglier if the group dies, and if there a little kids in the group (the ones without manners not all) its gonna get even uglier. STS has always balanced the game between gold and plat when we voice our opinions lets see what they will say about this.
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    Plat for revive:

    You know the reason I think this is a terrible idea? The game becomes more about money than skill. You can buy equipment and dungeons with plat, but when you start buying your way through a dungeon... There's a problem. Except for elixirs, there really shouldn't be any platinum options in-dungeon that replace the need for Mages' revives.

    Yes, I know not many people will use it. But the mere option takes away the need for skill because you have a failsafe if the team doesn't work well.
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