1). Sounds similar to 'the fact that people spent a lot of time' farming the 'money' required to buy those pets.
2). 'Underlying reasons for people to ask' what 'of STS' exactly?
3). The same 'lack' of 'patience and determination' to farm 100 million gold to buy those pets.
4). Its called making a reference to an earlier example. Even still, the final say is with the developers who seem to have shown an interest in this alongside many players (who greatly outnumber those that disagree including yourself).
5). Because the sleepless nights players spent for weeks running maps to end up in the top 10 in each class to receive shady and surge after it had been said not to be returning ever again; only to have it re-released is not ruining 'ingame' 'achievement'.
-1 to recolouring the vanities.
The special treatment you guys are publicly asking for is quite amusing.
Its only logical that the collectors themselves alongside the friends they asked to come and make comments (the minority) would disagree with this thread
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Last edited by Perceval; 06-02-2017 at 06:18 PM.
Save us the reading time and just say: "collecting old armors buys you special treatment from STG whereas spending hundreds to thousands of dollars on pets alongside years of farming does nott".
Choosing to release the old armors and weapons as vanities (the voice of the majority) or nott (the voice of the minority) is in the end, entirely up to STG but (depending on the choice they make) may let us know if there are things we need to do to earn special treatment from STG.
Last edited by Perceval; 06-03-2017 at 11:18 AM.
7 people disagree with your thread - a controversial idea is generally carefully implemented. Please take the time to understand that. I doubt they want to risk upsetting players who worked hard for these treasured items. The people who don't have these items have nothing to be upset about because they have not lost anything.
Secondly, your argument for depreciation of items is invalid. Pets get replaced eventually - collectibles should not. They're a part of AL history. So, sure bring back the smaller stuff that not many really care about, such as commando. However, leave things like heraldic and demonlord alone.
At the end of the day, it's a mixed bag. If they choose to do this, they need to bring back items that will satisfy the masses without also upsetting the collectors. Failure to recognize both sides of the game only ends up in an unhealthy game.
P.S: I have none of these rare items whatsoever. Would I like to wear them again? Sure! However, it's just not something I would spend that much gold on nor would I want it to be re-released because it ruins the specialness.
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Your use of 'conjecture' is in bold. 'I do nott know' where you got the assumption I 'need' this. The developers showed interest in a suggestion, therefore I will show my support. Such is the way of forum discussions.
Like I mentioned in a earlier post, those in possession of something that will potentially lose value soon will disagree with anything that will result in that loss of value. Such is the way of humanity.
Nordr jewel, entombed hammer, firesquid rod just to name a few
So basically sts shouldn't do anything that would hurt your friends pockets...does Gary have to ask them what they're allowed to put in their expansion ? Should sts just add them to the admin team so they can control the game to the point only they have gold or cool things? You kids need to stop being selfish and think about others and not just your small community of market manipulators ..
From what I see, the two sides of this discussion are:
View #1
-Allowing to make collectibles into vanities
- Not re-releasing those collectibles
- Releasing recolored vanities
View #2
- Re-releasing the original collectibles (original colors)
Immediately we can realize that the majority of players (non-collectors) should naturally fall into agreement with View #2 (mostly because they would want to enjoy wearing these rare items as much as the current owners do).
On the other hand, a minority of players (collectors) should tend towards View #1 (mostly due to the clear perks of wearing a vanity over normal items). But we should not let majority over minority play a role in this, especially because the majority might be making an uninformed judgement call.
Both of these views, from my perspective, are not ideal, and therefore I tend to side with a 3rd view.
View #3
- NOT Allowing to make collectibles into vanities
- NOT re-releasing the original collectibles (original colors)
- Releasing new designs over recoloring old ones
Response to View #1:
Although making collectibles into vanities would be great for looks for the game in general, and especially for collectors like myself, I do see it as being somewhat unfair, as it would be clearly favoring players who own these items. That is not to say the same "favoring" situation has not happened several times and will continue to happen. I just view it as a bad way to handle it.
In regards to recolored vanities, I believe they are starting to become slightly (and by slightly I mean very) repetitive. The "heraldic" look has already been redone so many times that we don't need to continue having recolors. Also, if you want a recolor you can already buy the steel heraldic, founder, red jester, commando, etc... in auction for relatively cheap. It would be much nicer to instead have new designs that we can appreciate for being unique, just like the original sets once were.
Response to View #2:
I do not agree with this view either. Re-releasing collectibles is actually a pretty short-sighted idea once we stop to think. Collectibles are only premium items and look apart from the others because they are so rare. Otherwise, if they weren't as exclusive, they would be much less special as they would be commonplace. You can see this with any item. The main reason people buy vanities is for their value in gold. If they're not worth much gold (like the steel heraldic, red jester, etc), players completely forget about them, and the same would happen if collectibles were reintroduced.
My View (#3):
If you really like these "collectibles" (I don't blame you if you do, they're pretty nice), then instead of asking STS to re-release them, work for them (just like you work during an event or what not). Hunt the item you wish to have; that way you will be happy without making the items any less special.
Just my 2 cents.
Since you guys want to Sts to release these vanities why not have Sts release banners that some players couldn't get because they barely started playing or didn't have the resources to get in a tier?or a way to get them like an event?(not talking about lb banners)
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Fun fact, vanities have no impact on gameplay. So, if people chose to collect them that's cool. You shouldn't ruin their enjoyment of their vanities they worked for just because you want an easy way to enjoy them too. In the end, people wear the vanities for a few weeks and then complain about the next rare collectible to be re-released. Why? The vanity that was brought back is no longer special.
Please don't be so selfish and ruin other people's game. Vanity is just that, a vanity. It has no impact on gameplay.
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So if a person grinds the gold for ice golem set or any other vanity then one week later sts releases this for all the fellow AL players whats the person going to do? Take a big L? and ruin the enjoyment of having one of the few sets still in game nty. Its not being selfish btw. Get a gl gun and belt and go farm maus. In no time u can buy any lb vanity you want if you put your mind to it. As for turning collectibles to vanities idk imo.
Last edited by You Mad Or Nah; 06-04-2017 at 02:28 PM.
Exactly vanity doesn't affect gameplay at all so why does it matter if an old set is brought back as a vanity besides if it hurts a few players pockets who like you have millions upon millions to toss around.. other people besides the same 20-30 hoarding all the collectible sets will be able to wear their favorites if they wanted to..and besides as you can tell its only people who hoard these sets and their friends against this...let other people have fun man we all couldn't farm plat back in the day like you.
It's a good way to kill the game if they do that. They've done it in their past games and lost a lot of veterans due to it. The simple fact is, if someone's gameplay is actively ruined then they will not play. These new players know nothing, sigh.
You're not going to get old vanities back, it's been discussed over and over. They're done and over with. And no, I don't have any of these old vanities.
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Nobody is manipulating. Take it down a notch, stop being so aggressive. Nobody wants to give their stuff away for free and no matter how much someone complains, this isn't going to change.
Developers know this and I'm sure they know the repercussions of bringing back veteran items. Recolour, sure. Never bring back though.
The ghost vanities are perfect example of doing it. People were given a chance to obtain ghost ice golem but they didn't ruin the original ice golem values. So, create new opportunities to obtain an equally rare item. Don't give away the same thing g.
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That's the thing in case you didn't read the title this is something for farmers you know something for people to work towards....there's no indication from sts that they won't make these vanities plat purchasable..nobody is getting anything for free it takes work to get those things as well...
Secondly you keep bringing up lb vanities ..this has nothing to do with them this is about bringing a few old beautiful sets out as vanities ...the only people this hurts even a little is the hoarders of collectibles literally nobody else is affected ...
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