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    I'd say start with 5k a ticket. Get a random number generator, from 1 - whoever, and whoever's number gets picked wins!

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    [/QUOTE]2) a. I like the lotto concept, but perhaps the time frame needs to be shortened? So much changes in a week, with this game. Maybe a lotto every three or two days?
    B. Depending on how many numbers you want people to choose, you could always go by the power ball lottery, and have the winning number match the power ball or something. Which would also ensure everyone could check it. I trust you, but if it was a number from something out of everyone's ability to control, more people might participate. Or maybe instead of a matching number, have the winning number be a sum of the 6 winning power ball numbers. That way, ticket purchasers could choose between 6 and like 300 (I think), and allow for lotto roll over and more tickets to be sold, and more players.
    C. However you decide to do it, the ticket cost should be minimal compared to the prize. Ie 1k tickets, 100k prize. Then if it gets rolled over and no one wins, the next lotto goes up to 150k, then 200k, etc, etc. And with roll over prizes, ticket limits might want to be considered. Maybe limit people to 25 tickets max (or less). But picking 25 out of 300 and getting it right is lottery style than allowing someone to buy 300 tickets and getting an auto win.
    D. Time limits, you can't always be on, and even shops stop selling tickets after a certain hour. Possibly designate a certain time frame each day for tickets to be purchased. Or some way to make your own forest haven lv1 game people can join and buy tickets during certain hours?
    E. Also, possibly some secondary prize(s) for people that come close, like 10% within 5, 5% within 20. Then the people who qualify, all split the prize evenly. So if two ppl come within 5, and the prize is 200k, they each get 10k.

    3) This one I'm kind of iffy about since if a lot of people are playing, you would need to keep track of who traded you first, etc. And then what stops someone from going through and getting a wide variety of items the day before? :/. Maybe if it was a scavenger hunt where ppl had to collect 5-10 of said item, that might work - and would provide less margin for cheating. Also, an instance for trading or showing items might work best here as well. Then who is first, second, third, etc would be visible from the party list.

    Also, if any entry fee, should be minimal as well, due to this requiring much time for ppl. And monetary prizes are always the best (IMO), but also have a number of prizes depending on number of entrants. If only 5 ppl, only first or second prize, if 10 ppl, first through third. Something like an additional prize per additional 5 entrants.

    Hope this is the type of FB you wanted.[/QUOTE]

    A) problem is The time frame needs to be weekly for 2 reasons. 1st is to collect enough for a good wining pool, 2nd to allow WEEKEND only players in.

    D) yes I had concidered this and will most likely have a Collection time from, signing up on thread would be 24 hours.

    E)There isnt really a 2nd winner in lotto, either you match the number or you dont, and there is no way to do this until it (IF) gets bigger, and its a 3 number choice. This case it would be POSSIBLE but again its so far in the unknown future I wouldnt stress concidering it now.

    3) Items would only be shown in the trade box, if I did again, would be Xtime-Xtime, results posted online of course.
    This is the first response on idea #3, but I assure you it wouldnt be as easy as it sounds. It would infact take quite a bit of work, seeing as most items are liquidated if not epic or legend.


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    Also, for the lottery you can set up a google doc so people can automatically enter the numbers they choose after they have purchased tickets. Then everyone can easily see who else is in the lottery and what numbers ppl are picking. If you go with this, I can help you set up the google doc.
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    Your quote didn't work because you killed it before it started
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    Sound good.

    honestly NOTHING is stopping me from setting up a backbone system EXCEPT players.....

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    If you want to take weekend players into consideration, you could still have two lotto's a week. One that starts on Sunday and goes till Tuesday, and another that runs thursday to Saturday. Two 3 day lotto's a week.
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    Also, excel or google docs can easily do random numbers from within a given range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furrawn View Post
    You don't know me....
    But just from this post (and others), I really like you...
    I love the bow story...

    And I agree.... It's good to involve new players in working for stuff they want...
    Plus, I think being nice and helpful might rub off so they'll be nice and helpful to new players they meet
    Thank you, that is very stalkerish of you to say. Lol. I'm just kidding. Rebel is funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avadonna View Post
    Thank you, that is very stalkerish of you to say. Lol. I'm just kidding. Rebel is funny.

    Being nice to others is good game karma.
    Yeah...
    I should have thought about how that sounded... I just thought your post was great and had seen some other post elsewhere recently by you that was kind...

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    I don't like gambling, so I'm not going to join a lottery.

    However, I like the idea of helping up-and-coming players. We could either do straight item donations, helping people hunt (like Avadonna mentioned), or a combination thereof. Frankly, that's a lot of what I'm doing these days, just on an unofficial basis. I'll join some Swamps map with lower-level players and support them as much as possible. It's a lot of fun! I even solo'ed Frogmar a few days ago after she wiped the rest of the party. (I was playing Epimetheus.) Pocket Legends is still fun to play, even if I don't really need any more XP or loot right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SlipperyJim View Post
    I don't like gambling, so I'm not going to join a lottery.

    However, I like the idea of helping up-and-coming players. We could either do straight item donations, helping people hunt (like Avadonna mentioned), or a combination thereof. Frankly, that's a lot of what I'm doing these days, just on an unofficial basis. I'll join some Swamps map with lower-level players and support them as much as possible. It's a lot of fun! I even solo'ed Frogmar a few days ago after she wiped the rest of the party. (I was playing Epimetheus.) Pocket Legends is still fun to play, even if I don't really need any more XP or loot right now.
    Okay this actully made a spark go off in my head.

    Like again instead of being random. a few players and a time frame willing to help.
    This would infact only need a few people and a short time.
    the downfall would be a set time would exclude players with otherly time requirements, and also not much backround on the characters being helped.

    But I see huge potential in this again if there was forum player support.
    Even just a few tank bears could manage lower dungeons , and maybe 2 players for swamp.
    I am saying this becuase if it were to happen the goal is HELP not HANDOUT exp.
    And drops would definetly have to be furthor discussed
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    If you or anyone else wants to furthore on this, let me know, This seems to be a great oppurtunity. And id like to get it set up before the oasis if possible.

    Slipperyjim: Your opinion is HIGHLY valued to me as your are more (claimed to be)the casual player. I would LOVE to hear more from you, and again greatly appreciate your input and concern, I would be honered if you would assist me in creating this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobikuma View Post
    Okay this actully made a spark go off in my head.

    Like again instead of being random. a few players and a time frame willing to help.
    This would infact only need a few people and a short time.
    the downfall would be a set time would exclude players with otherly time requirements, and also not much backround on the characters being helped.

    But I see huge potential in this again if there was forum player support.
    Even just a few tank bears could manage lower dungeons , and maybe 2 players for swamp.
    I am saying this becuase if it were to happen the goal is HELP not HANDOUT exp.
    And drops would definetly have to be furthor discussed
    .
    If you or anyone else wants to furthore on this, let me know, This seems to be a great oppurtunity. And id like to get it set up before the oasis if possible.

    Slipperyjim: Your opinion is HIGHLY valued to me as your are more (claimed to be)the casual player. I would LOVE to hear more from you, and again greatly appreciate your input and concern, I would be honered if you would assist me in creating this.
    I'm not on *too* much and the times can be pretty sporadic throughout the week. But pending no guild responsibilities I'd be more then happy to lend my bow to help with anything, let me know what you come up with or need a hand organizing anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlipperyJim View Post
    I don't like gambling, so I'm not going to join a lottery.

    However, I like the idea of helping up-and-coming players. We could either do straight item donations, helping people hunt (like Avadonna mentioned), or a combination thereof. Frankly, that's a lot of what I'm doing these days, just on an unofficial basis. I'll join some Swamps map with lower-level players and support them as much as possible. It's a lot of fun! I even solo'ed Frogmar a few days ago after she wiped the rest of the party. (I was playing Epimetheus.) Pocket Legends is still fun to play, even if I don't really need any more XP or loot right now.
    The guild I'm creating is going to have a "Charity Nursery" (nursery even has a leader already) that will exist solely to help out new players. It will be unrelated to recruiting since I want the guide to be a smaller very close-knit group. Besides, we'll not look at recruits til they're lvl 25, etc yadda yadda. The goal of the nursery is just to help out new players...I think the game can only benefit from "paying it forward."

    Maybe there could be a guild that exists for good public works? I know our charity nursery would be happy to help a guild with that or anyone who wanted groups of volunteers for that....
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    I really like your charity idea alot and I'll definitely give you pinks lvl30-35 because it's going to a good cause however it's going to be hard to determine if they being real or trying to take advantage of free loot lol I think maybe have players vouch for them or play with them and get to know the person build some rapport then decide if that persons being true or not... I kinda do charity already lol for my sister and my brother who don't have much time as me to play PL so I get items for them most of the time and I've been able to get them full pinks for their characters (they have two each) and also I have given pinks to friends ive farmed with if I have or get something that I don't need even if it's pink but I have to say I have become kinda selfish nowadays trying to horde stuff to sell to make money lol but I'm content with what I have now and wanna give back to the community so you can count me in Tobi
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokester View Post
    I really like your charity idea alot and I'll definitely give you pinks lvl30-35 because it's going to a good cause however it's going to be hard to determine if they being real or trying to take advantage of free loot lol I think maybe have players vouch for them or play with them and get to know the person build some rapport then decide if that persons being true or not... I kinda do charity already lol for my sister and my brother who don't have much time as me to play PL so I get items for them most of the time and I've been able to get them full pinks for their characters (they have two each) and also I have given pinks to friends ive farmed with if I have or get something that I don't need even if it's pink but I have to say I have become kinda selfish nowadays trying to horde stuff to sell to make money lol but I'm content with what I have now and wanna give back to the community so you can count me in Tobi
    This most likely how it would be set up.
    Time frame there would be 1-2 Volunteer workers guiding players through the scheduled (1-3 days a week) zone/s (EXP and farm focus split) for the alloted time (30min-hour), upon completion they would recieve an item if they could not obtain one naturally.

    to get this started Literally all id need is maybe 2-5 volunteers and then people who would like to sign up for help.

    O yes and as far as 34/35 equipment goes, keep in mind that most of the people are going to be after oasis items, and swamp with be yesterdays bread. There is no way I could be fully operation before oasis. Greedy concerns should be an issue as it to help the underleveled and equiped, not the capped players
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    Quote Originally Posted by smokester View Post
    I really like your charity idea alot and I'll definitely give you pinks lvl30-35 because it's going to a good cause however it's going to be hard to determine if they being real or trying to take advantage of free loot lol I think maybe have players vouch for them or play with them and get to know the person build some rapport then decide if that persons being true or not... I kinda do charity already lol for my sister and my brother who don't have much time as me to play PL so I get items for them most of the time and I've been able to get them full pinks for their characters (they have two each) and also I have given pinks to friends ive farmed with if I have or get something that I don't need even if it's pink but I have to say I have become kinda selfish nowadays trying to horde stuff to sell to make money lol but I'm content with what I have now and wanna give back to the community so you can count me in Tobi
    I don't know if this helps or not...

    Obviously, as you said, if they are friends we know they aren't taking advantage.
    Here's what i do when I help an unknown player... If possible I get two lvl 35's (or any upper lvl) to help because it's more time effective... play with them so they can get their own weapons while also helping them level. Now, because of Avadonna's post, all of us give the newbie EVERY weapon pertaining to his/her character choice that we get while playing with him/her. At the end of the first full campaign, I give the newbie a purple if I have one. The player we took last night was so excited over the purple- lol.

    Some newbies are looking for handouts. They are USUALLY easy to spot.
    They just want weapons given to them without playing.
    OR
    They'll play but won't actually help.
    I had a little guy yesterday who would not help. We tell the little guys below level 10 to stand behind us but to be right behind us... Helping to fight but not in the first line of damage... This guy did not want to help AT ALL. I nicely told him three times that we were HELPING him NOT doing it for him. His behavior didn't change. So, we would stop walking or fighting til he was actually with us as a team. He had his first death while actually fighting. He had a fit about having a death.
    n00b- "OMG death I died a death I have a death i'm ruined"
    He left the game immediately.

    My point being that if you play with them through an entire campaign, the few that are looking for a handout usually show their hand...

    If that helps? Just my own experience...
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    I currently hold a small lottery every day, the prize only being a low lvl pink. Its not that hard to get seein as high level players sell these cheaply

    Btw Furrawn it sounds like ur trying to teac kindergartners.

    PS I love the idea of like a "adopt a noob foundation"

    Where lvl 34/35 players adopt a lvl 1 noob and help him lvl for the day, then the noobs duke it out in pvp. The player that helped the noob that wins gets a free swamp pink. But this would take some thought and organization to it, just a brainwave
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    i like all these ideas, so if you need any help with them, im in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerospacegod View Post
    So 100k is collected, the guy who put in 300 gets 3k and the other 97k goes to?
    Or 25k is collected, the guy who put in 5000 wins, who covers the missing 25k?

    Edit: Ticket could be lower say 2k but you can buy up to 5 tickets each?
    Just a brainwave
    there could be multiple winners,
    while if there are extra scraps they are spread out evenly between the winners

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobikuma View Post
    Okay this actully made a spark go off in my head.

    Like again instead of being random. a few players and a time frame willing to help.
    This would infact only need a few people and a short time.
    the downfall would be a set time would exclude players with otherly time requirements, and also not much backround on the characters being helped.

    But I see huge potential in this again if there was forum player support.
    Even just a few tank bears could manage lower dungeons , and maybe 2 players for swamp.
    I am saying this becuase if it were to happen the goal is HELP not HANDOUT exp.
    And drops would definetly have to be furthor discussed.
    If you or anyone else wants to furthore on this, let me know, This seems to be a great oppurtunity. And id like to get it set up before the oasis if possible.
    Being a casual player, I can't really commit to a specific timeframe. I usually play during my commute, morning and evening Eastern time, but not always. If I had to promise to cover (for example) the 1700-1800 "shift", I wouldn't do it.

    Here's what would work for me: Some sort of communication system with which I could check a "job board" or something when I'm ready to play. Then, if there are some newbies who need an escort, I could join them. Epimetheus spent this morning tanking for some lvl 25-30 characters in the Lost Expedition. Blast from the past! (And yeti are a lot easier to kill than crocs!)

    Just don't call it an "Escort Service" or people will get the wrong idea!

    Drops are not my concern. I don't know exactly what you meant by: "And drops would definetly have to be furthor discussed." If you meant that we (the helpers) would donate any drops to the newbies we are helping ... well, I sorta do that anyway. If it would be required, I'm probably okay with that for the lower-level maps. After all, I don't really need a Frosty Snowbird Wing of Legend anyway! On the other hand, I'd like to keep any Swamps drops that I can get. (As I've written in other threads, I'm not fully pinked-out yet.) But tell me what you meant, and we can discuss it further.

    My only condition would be that I want to help players who want to fight, but need a little help doing so. I don't want to help leeches. My general rule-of-thumb is that characters should be within five levels of the map we're running. In other words, newbies should be at least lvl 25 before I'll help them in the Swamps. (Based on the idea that the Swamps are meant for lvl 30 characters and above.) If you're not at that level or higher, then you probably won't be able to make any difference against the mobs, and you'd die within a few seconds if you somehow managed to get the mobs' attention. At that point, I'm not helping you; I'm carrying you. The difference is important to me.
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