Hardcore Mode - Revised Design / Additional Details

**ajxn** · 10-24-2018, 12:45 PM

instead of perma death, why not a time penalty ? each time you die the amount of time you need to wait to revive will increase, and you can use plat to insta revive or to reset your time penalty ( every time you die the time you need to wait increases 2x or something like that, you can use plat ro reset the time penalty to its basic state)

for people running for the hardcore LB wont lose everything on death and can decide if they want to lose or not they Lb position having to wait for revive penalty or using plat to insta revive.

and everytime a someone in Lb dies there should be a system announcement to hardcoremore players only. that will make people close to Lb tryharder to catch up with the ones that died

**Oldnewzeus** · 10-24-2018, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by Kjeldran

Good parties are a necessity now where skills and timing becomes a essential thing.

Agreed, but you I personally got 90% of my deaths from Server lags or misplaced hitboxes from Bosses/mobs #realtalk

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**Gaprisha** · 10-24-2018, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by Cinco

I think that anything you get as a concession after dying in Hardcore mode makes the whole thing a lot less 'hardcore.'

I agree with that but thats not what we were talkin about. Ours was based on what would happen to the character after a season ends and its still alive. Not on if its RIP.

Do seasons even have an affect on it? Like if its capped or atleast some what, do we continue leveling it up just as we would in a normal mode every expansion or does it get reset to lvl1 at the start of the season, being hardcore and all and since theres a lb involved for this mode. Or do we have to make a new hardcore character every season.
My previous comment was a suggestion for the rewards if the character resets at a start of a season >_<

**Cinco** · 10-24-2018, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by Gaprisha

I agree with that but thats not what we were talkin about. Ours was based on what would happen to the character after a season ends and its still alive. Not on if its RIP.

Do seasons even have an affect on it? Like if its capped or atleast some what, do we continue leveling it up just as we would in a normal mode every expansion or does it get reset to lvl1 at the start of the season, being hardcore and all and since theres a lb involved for this mode. Or do we have to make a new hardcore character every season.
My previous comment was a suggestion for the rewards if the character resets at a start of a season >_<

Hardcore characters do not get reset to Level 1 so long as they remain alive.

**Gaprisha** · 10-24-2018, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by Cinco

Hardcore characters do not get reset to Level 1 so long as they remain alive.

ahh well that settles it then.

**MasterP** · 10-24-2018, 02:19 PM

Years of my life gone, just to re-do it all over again...for some titles and aps..

**Perceval** · 10-24-2018, 02:49 PM

Originally Posted by Cinco

I do indeed hear what you're saying. I feel that thrusting all the risks of hardcore mode onto your most beloved character would be a bad idea. Furthermore, I believe that supporting 'normal' characters in and out of Hardcore mode would destroy the purpose of the mode with respect to difficulty and (especially) finality.

Could a system that allows you to permanently move all the hardcore rewards (coloured name, titles and banners) to your main character when you reach the max hardcore level be possible?

**Thewolfbull** · 10-24-2018, 03:41 PM

So plat users are the only ones who will be able to get the best arcane eggs/gear in hardcore because of no trade?

**Cinco** · 10-24-2018, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by Thewolfbull

So plat users are the only ones who will be able to get the best arcane eggs/gear in hardcore because of no trade?

Will they though? Do you think people with money will risk big chunks of it when the character can be permanently killed (and thus cost lots more real money to bring back)? I think hardcore specifically discourages big spending.

**jade10** · 10-24-2018, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by Cinco

Will they though? Do you think people with money will risk big chunks of it when the character can be permanently killed (and thus cost lots more real money to bring back)? I think hardcore specifically discourages big spending.

Lots of real money??
Omg 100 plats per revive???
Hahahahaha

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**Thewolfbull** · 10-24-2018, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by Cinco

Will they though? Do you think people with money will risk big chunks of it when the character can be permanently killed (and thus cost lots more real money to bring back)? I think hardcore specifically discourages big spending.

I think they will for leaderboard.

**Cinco** · 10-24-2018, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by jade10

Lots of real money??
Omg 100 plats per revive???
Hahahahaha

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Thousands and thousands of Platinum to revive. You see what I'm saying.

**Cinco** · 10-24-2018, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by Thewolfbull

I think they will for leaderboard.

We'll have to see about all that. As you see from the thread it's just a couple of titles and some (admittedly amazing) banners.

**jade10** · 10-24-2018, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Cinco

Thousands and thousands of Platinum to revive. You see what I'm saying.

Ahhhhhhh im excited ..
My 1st rule is dont die

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**jade10** · 10-24-2018, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by Cinco

We'll have to see about all that. As you see from the thread it's just a couple of titles and some (admittedly amazing) banners.

Amazing banner??? Cinco i will not foget about this amzing banner ..i hope it makes me shine like a star

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**Fyrce** · 10-24-2018, 05:12 PM

Just tell everyone it's awful mode, don't play and you'll be on lb forever!

**Nocturnus** · 10-24-2018, 05:52 PM

Please do not force us to download this bad content ... Just make a new game or server ... Impossible all with the ping, the instakill and the cursed ... Tell me the name of the game's richest and their deaths .. Not to mention pvp .. Tell me the name of a 71 with 0 deaths in pvp .. Who will want to relive again and again in lvl 1 to do pvp 71? Whats about friends and guild? Always death? Logic 0 ... Lol thank you ...

**SkipperSkinner** · 10-24-2018, 07:05 PM

Will the hardmode character be able to purchase item from the platnium store?

**Xxkayakxx** · 10-25-2018, 04:09 AM

Basically main char will never get hardcore aps right?
This will get me away to put real effort in the hardcore mode, even if I like the idea of challenge of this mode

**Alkif** · 10-25-2018, 06:32 AM

I see a lot of people complaining about rewards. hardcore mode is not about rewards, its about:
1. Enjoying the challenge - In a regular account, it just feels like you are cheezing your way through objectives while on an hardcore account, while it takes longer and it's ok to dislike this, the reward makes you feel like you wanna say yeah, i ****ing did that.
2. great change of pace - going back to your roots, digging up those old money makers, playing it slow to get best possible gear for your level so you could survive etc
3. Playing game like its supposed to be played - crafting every item that is needed for rendtail, grinding everything yourself
4. And the most important part, bragging rights!

But after all that I do agree with 1 thing, perma death is a little too much..