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    Quote Originally Posted by tailwarrior View Post
    Just logging for a day within that 2 week frame will make me active and I don't need to do it everyday. I have like 4 accounts with 30k+ aps in each. So I contribute 120k aps. isn't that right?

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    You are right, I was thinking about the parameters of 1 active day, 3 days, 7 days etc of the current Lb. Perhaps those parameters should be included and give more points for being more active.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Encryptions View Post
    Its simple math. What is 300 times 10k? 3m, look at the chart asommers made above, top 20lb is in the 3m aps range.
    At the end of the post there is a note, maybe you should read it.

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    not the place to get defensive i was posting my ideas and comments as #2 lb gm ^^ to devs if you disagree thats up to you but to be fair noobs / low aps wouldn't be allowed to join so

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    Quote Originally Posted by asommers View Post
    I'll formulate some responses to recent comments later, but I'll ask a simple question:

    If the top 500 active players in the game (by APs) all joined a single guild, wouldn't that be the top guild in the game?

    If so, we've got enough data create a list of top guilds. If not, why not?

    -ALS
    top guild by aps: yes
    top guild by best players: no

    aps is only about how much people play and how much they pay

    but i still like the idea of ranking just by aps

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    Yes i feel like just basing it on aps circulates ptw into the guild lb a little tbh i think there should be more factors that determine the lbs but certainly not as many as there are now

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsanitrisesAL View Post
    Yes i feel like just basing it on aps circulates ptw into the guild lb a little tbh i think there should be more factors that determine the lbs but certainly not as many as there are now
    Seen this a couple times about aps being ptw. Except for a few of the newer ones which can be gotten w plat, how is this so?
    You can have people to hunt rares for you, but that's always been the case, and that's gold anyway.. And anything u can buy w plat you can buy w gold regarding aps, again, as it's always been. So not seeing a marked correlation here? Regardless, I would like to see guildevents available in guildevent section that counts aps, would be a nice add at some point perhaps. Also, the consensus on 30 days for lb to be counted would be nice. Updated weekly, especially if any new guild management tools coming. So you can use the tools given, and see the effects of what you do, over a month it's much more difficult to know. Thanks again for your efforts on this Asommers

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    Hm ill clarify ofc you can gl farm any aps but at the cost of what pumping all your hard earned gold that you could have bought gears with into aps / and further you can basically buy crate keys and sell them to get a large portion of the aps available/ arcane / heroic pets / locations - buyable with plat / sell crate keys and buy a gl set , thats easily a large chunk of gold you wouldn't need to farm if you bought plat pets about 200-250 m or more / locations probably in the 100 m range even if you resold youd still have to first farm the gold , and a decent gl set to even get started on the 1 b aps is 350m+ but that's just for starters im sure theres more

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsanitrisesAL View Post
    Hm ill clarify ofc you can gl farm any aps but at the cost of what pumping all your hard earned gold that you could have bought gears with into aps / and further you can basically buy crate keys and sell them to get a large portion of the aps available/ arcane / heroic pets / locations - buyable with plat / sell crate keys and buy a gl set , thats easily a large chunk of gold you wouldn't need to farm if you bought plat pets about 200-250 m or more / locations probably in the 100 m range even if you resold youd still have to first farm the gold , and a decent gl set to even get started on the 1 b aps is 350m+ but that's just for starters im sure theres more
    You mean what seasonals are doing now anyways and could always be done? Aps always been a thing. A top five seasonal spent in the 140 range, and it moves you quick, but again, still gotta grind a huge chunk of it. And it stops em in the I think 55k range even with max resources and daily grinding in the time allowed? And most of your og players already have a good chunk over time anyways. So back to grinding 1k bosses or whatever you missed.. Money only gets you so far. If you can motivate them to spend it. And remember, with 500 players counted, the effort to have that many do it to make a major difference, and motivate a chunk of them to spend for lb would be impressive. I built Bellum under a different ruleset. I want players to do what they wish. No reqs. At all. And will continue to be. Do what you want, makes you want to do more of it And yet, we are doing ok on lb ranking. Currently #1 aps, and number four in new system.

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    Looking good 👍

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    Hi, just looking for any info on lb changes. Thank you!

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    think better to be active 7 days count the aps but lb also like if 90% of guildmates are in lb to count like in hauntlet, tombs, planar arena seasonals or honor like if someone have 60k aps and have seasonal top 10 with 40k aps amd top runner in tombs 110k pts 10k pts people will get if they are in lb if they are in 10 different categories +100k pts l think guild lb need to be with people who are in lb in aps seasonals and runners in lb planar tomb waves

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    Its a good idea

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    This should be out before the end of the week.

    -ALS

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    Quote Originally Posted by asommers View Post
    This should be out before the end of the week.

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    Could we have a rundown on what the team is thinking on doing with the new guild rank system?

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    Im not saying this because my guild went down im saying it because its true , how is bellum #2 guild when half of it is dead my guild score top activity, aps Should not be the only factor

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    These changes are now live since we've started a new year and new season. Settled internally on 7d (updated weekly). Changes should be visible in the game and the forums (link).

    -ALS

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    Hi. When a guild has less than 500 members, is their score weighted to reflect that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zestee View Post
    Hi. When a guild has less than 500 members, is their score weighted to reflect that?
    No, it's simply the sum of the achievement points of the top 500 members active within the previous week.

    -ALS

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    Thank you.

    Can it be considered to divide the total points by the number of members counted, and rank by that number instead? Seems fairer.

    Or some other way of averaging/weighting, as this way favours large guilds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asommers View Post
    No, it's simply the sum of the achievement points of the top 500 members active within the previous week.

    -ALS
    I think top 500 is a bit too much. Some guilds prefer quality over quantity. Maybe decrease to 300?

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