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    rip ur one shot man xD


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    Quote Originally Posted by Squlo View Post
    Nah unlike you I am an actual pvp player that is aware of skill/aa timings and what skill does what exactly (in order to counter my opponent) skill cycling etc etc and what I see on the video is a rog rushing open to a tank and expecting to not die

    Pls stick to pve and dont bother with pvp ty
    HAHAHAHA that's hilarious considering I've pvped on and off since I started playing in 2014. You don't know me, so don't act like you do.

    If you're claiming to be the a so called 'actual pvper' you would understand how unbalanced it is compared to all the other popular zones.

    Like I said, you're a biast warrior whose ego is built around a broken character. Either you haven't played 86 zone to witness how horrendous it is, or you're just a little stoopid. I can't honestly tell...


    That's all I'll say, egostistical warriors are not enjoyable ))


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sucr View Post
    HAHAHAHA that's hilarious considering I've pvped on and off since I started playing in 2014. You don't know me, so don't act like you do.

    If you're claiming to be the a so called 'actual pvper' you would understand how stupid 86 zone is and how unbalanced it is compared to all the other popular zones.

    Like I said, you're a biast warrior whose ego is built around a broken character. Either you haven't played 86 zone to witness how horrendous it is, or you're just a little stoopid. I can't honestly tell...


    That's all I'll say, egostistical warriors are not enjoyable ))


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    I have never said pvp is fun or anything at this point. We for sure need a stat squish and if you are wondering we get used to rogs one shotting tanks since level 61 cap already?

    Either get used to it and try to adapt it while playing or stop complaining about it cause it's just a skill issue.

    Also I can give you some tips for your gameplay and a proper build to survive in pvp cause I don't think you are aware of those either. Seems like you playing pvp since 2014 randomly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sucr View Post
    HAHAHAHA that's hilarious considering I've pvped on and off since I started playing in 2014. You don't know me, so don't act like you do.

    If you're claiming to be the a so called 'actual pvper' you would understand how stupid 86 zone is and how unbalanced it is compared to all the other popular zones.

    Like I said, you're a biast warrior whose ego is built around a broken character. Either you haven't played 86 zone to witness how horrendous it is, or you're just a little stoopid. I can't honestly tell...


    That's all I'll say, egostistical warriors are not enjoyable ))


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    Warrior is quite busted currently haha but i dont do pvp as much iam more pve so enemy go poof but i actually dont even know when or how warrior became so busted i remember back then al classes being balanced pretty well but now every class is a all rounder and its all now about being a girl boy and alien if that makes anysince like every class does the same thing sort of so if i wanna kill boss easy i can choose any class and class its self is like a decoration like mage rogue war can solo bosses in past only rogue can do that mage would support and tank would well u know tank dmg haha and taunt but now since all classes do the same people just choose whatever class because they want to be a girl or boy or alien plus vanitys i might be talking out of my butt bbuutt thats what i think your free to give ur opinion about my comment and current me if there anything wrong with what i wrote and current pvp is unbalanced and will probably be unbalanced for everrrr i dont think there a way to nerf one class without indirectly buffing another one


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    I'm not going to pretend wars don't do damage now. It's far less then the other classes but power creep from pve has made even our damage high. 1 v 1 this is a problem for the other classes. When we clash I regularly get 0 to 4 kills out of 20. Many of our matches it's 0. In ctf when rogue is at 300 I'm at 20. In 2 v2 I'm always in the 0 to 4 range. More often 0. Granted I'm also the one war with the least kills in the map. Always. I could care less about the damage. Nerf it however much you want. I use my skills and proc and pets to cover and debuff. I'm a tank I just want to survive. We have been in the same maps and same clashes. Good rogues like Saxt and Delegations have good gear but also use strategy to regularly nuke the opposing tank. Hell, they nuke the whole team on rejoin. Finding a way to get 4 kills to you're 1 death is how you win. Trying to stand toe to toe with a war and just blast them when they aren't in cd just isn't how you are going to be successful. You need a stategy to using your damage while timing your procs and aa. With the new nature damage mechanic wars die. A lot. It's not that we are immortal and damage like a rogue. Wars have weaknesses you have to exploit. Sorry if I don't go into anymore depth then that.

    Last points for me on this topic.

    Wars do a lot of damage because we all do a lot of damage. It's still far less then the other classes. If i just stand there a rogue or mage can nuke me through jug just looking at me mean. I don't just stand there.

    While I understand it's frustrating. Asking for wars to be nerfed so they can't kill you is a bit sigle minded. Are you trying to tell me if wars couldn't kill someone it's okay? That means no one is going to challenge them to a duel right? Or that a rogue ego isn't going to get in the way and they won't vs 1v1? I know the op. All he would do is nuke tanks that can't fight back. I know this from experience. Still balanced then?

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    Quote Originally Posted by capeo View Post
    I'm not going to pretend wars don't do damage now. It's far less then the other classes but power creep from pve has made even our damage high. 1 v 1 this is a problem for the other classes. When we clash I regularly get 0 to 4 kills out of 20. Many of our matches it's 0. In ctf when rogue is at 300 I'm at 20. In 2 v2 I'm always in the 0 to 4 range. More often 0. Granted I'm also the one war with the least kills in the map. Always. I could care less about the damage. Nerf it however much you want. I use my skills and proc and pets to cover and debuff. I'm a tank I just want to survive. We have been in the same maps and same clashes. Good rogues like Saxt and Delegations have good gear but also use strategy to regularly nuke the opposing tank. Hell, they nuke the whole team on rejoin. Finding a way to get 4 kills to you're 1 death is how you win. Trying to stand toe to toe with a war and just blast them when they aren't in cd just isn't how you are going to be successful. You need a stategy to using your damage while timing your procs and aa. With the new nature damage mechanic wars die. A lot. It's not that we are immortal and damage like a rogue. Wars have weaknesses you have to exploit. Sorry if I don't go into anymore depth then that.

    Last points for me on this topic.

    Wars do a lot of damage because we all do a lot of damage. It's still far less then the other classes. If i just stand there a rogue or mage can nuke me through jug just looking at me mean. I don't just stand there.

    While I understand it's frustrating. Asking for wars to be nerfed so they can't kill you is a bit sigle minded. Are you trying to tell me if wars couldn't kill someone it's okay? That means no one is going to challenge them to a duel right? Or that a rogue ego isn't going to get in the way and they won't vs 1v1? I know the op. All he would do is nuke tanks that can't fight back. I know this from experience. Still balanced then?
    I don’t agree and I think the 4 kills out of 20 is a lie lol. The tanks in the game spectate get the most kills in tdm. New nature dmg? It’s so bad it’s like a 10% chance for proc.

    You’re babbling about having invulnerability 2 secs from heal juggernaut 8-10 invulnerability and haste its unlimited juggernaut.

    As a rogue full dex yes you hit hard, but the only downfall is that you’re paper afterwards.

    Exploit/experienced rogues??? Guy I’ve been in pvp since 2014 for you to come tell me that this is normal.

    Rogues received a nerf from a bug before everytime ebon daggers proc you insta died. That’s the same thing with warrior weapons.

    All classes need a nerf to limit procs to 10% of their maximum power in pvp.

    Don’t act like you don’t exploit this and stack 3-4-5 tanks on the same time and stand in the middle of the map.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcAL View Post
    I don’t agree and I think the 4 kills out of 20 is a lie lol. The tanks in the game spectate get the most kills in tdm. New nature dmg? It’s so bad it’s like a 10% chance for proc.

    You’re babbling about having invulnerability 2 secs from heal juggernaut 8-10 invulnerability and haste its unlimited juggernaut.

    As a rogue full dex yes you hit hard, but the only downfall is that you’re paper afterwards.

    Exploit/experienced rogues??? Guy I’ve been in pvp since 2014 for you to come tell me that this is normal.

    Rogues received a nerf from a bug before everytime ebon daggers proc you insta died. That’s the same thing with warrior weapons.

    All classes need a nerf to limit procs to 10% of their maximum power in pvp.

    Don’t act like you don’t exploit this and stack 3-4-5 tanks on the same time and stand in the middle of the map.


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    A good rogue or mage can 1 combo a tank in Jugg without heal. Especially with this new bio set and the jewels. It’s all timing lmao


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    While arcs frustration entertains me I don't stack any classes. You might want to consider why all the tanks go opposite instead of join your side.

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    Tanks are too OP in pvp period
    This needs to be fixed

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    Tanks have more damage than rogues and 14sec total immortal with jug heal and glow

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    I love all my warrior friends in PvP, but I think we can all agree that warriors might be a bit too overpowered right now. I see plenty of discussions about skills, it could be the best rogues or mages and they would still struggle to defeat a warrior in a one-on-one fight. Warriors are invincible, they would even be able to take on four opponents at once and come out on top. It's crazy.

    I understand that warriors might not want to be nerfed, but it seems necessary to balance the game. Despite having a good set, any random warrior with 2k strength can take me down as soon as my shield immunity ends, simply by spamming their chain or rusk weapon. It's just too much. Game developers should work towards a more balanced and fair playing field for everyone. They shouldn't ignore the PvP aspect of the game, I know it's a smaller section, but many players play this game specifically for PvP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kikemm17 View Post
    I love all my warrior friends in PvP, but I think we can all agree that warriors might be a bit too overpowered right now. I see plenty of discussions about skills, it could be the best rogues or mages and they would still struggle to defeat a warrior in a one-on-one fight. Warriors are invincible, they would even be able to take on four opponents at once and come out on top. It's crazy.

    I understand that warriors might not want to be nerfed, but it seems necessary to balance the game. Despite having a good set, any random warrior with 2k strength can take me down as soon as my shield immunity ends, simply by spamming their chain or rusk weapon. It's just too much. Game developers should work towards a more balanced and fair playing field for everyone. They shouldn't ignore the PvP aspect of the game, I know it's a smaller section, but many players play this game specifically for PvP.
    Agree with my friend here, no hate, all love here for our fellow tanks in pvp but saying yall not broken is a delusion

    How u gon tell us the tank class is out here nuking everyone out while having the "tank" perks, highest health, highest armor with skills like jugg which makes u immortal , a heal with a 4.5 second invulnerability that basically out lasts procs plus vengeful that gives u infinite mana and now have damage that rivals mages and rogues own damage

    Yall out here one tapping everyone with the axe skill, breaking shields with a 3 hit combo like it's paper, like tanks can literally break shields as efficient as a rogue , that's straight up outrageous behavior

    Doing the same damage as a rogue while having all this perks that are meant for u to outlast everyone in terms of durability is not ok plus now with haste that basically gives u almost no cd to ur broken abilities leaving us with a mere second to actually be able to kill or stun definitely not ok

    Tanks have become a combination of all classes , replenish mana like mages, deals same damage as rogues with the same nuking potential and durability like no other class, just wild

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    Quote Originally Posted by xFreaKzx View Post
    Agree with my friend here, no hate, all love here for our fellow tanks in pvp but saying yall not broken is a delusion

    How u gon tell us the tank class is out here nuking everyone out while having the "tank" perks, highest health, highest armor with skills like jugg which makes u immortal , a heal with a 4.5 second invulnerability that basically out lasts procs plus vengeful that gives u infinite mana and now have damage that rivals mages and rogues own damage

    Yall out here one tapping everyone with the axe skill, breaking shields with a 3 hit combo like it's paper, like tanks can literally break shields as efficient as a rogue , that's straight up outrageous behavior

    Doing the same damage as a rogue while having all this perks that are meant for u to outlast everyone in terms of durability is not ok plus now with haste that basically gives u almost no cd to ur broken abilities leaving us with a mere second to actually be able to kill or stun definitely not ok

    Tanks have become a combination of all classes , replenish mana like mages, deals same damage as rogues with the same nuking potential and durability like no other class, just wild

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    Rogue/mages together stronk i guess where yall have been while ruling the pvp for years and one shotting tanks actually?

    If you are talking about equality now in pvp I am going for nerf the rogue dmg cuz tanks literally getting nuked through jugg if that is the case lol

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    @Cinco, @Assomers
    Its becoming a big problem at Ivl 86 pvp. Warriors are now able to output mage level damage while having juggernaut skill with a low cd thanks to haste and a heal with an invulnerable shield, if a survey is taken of 86 pvp players you will see that warrior is seriously unbalanced. Mages can barely compete and rogues are just slaughtered quickly. Sure you could say that its just a skill issue and the warrs are just better players, but the thing is even skilled high dex rog and high int mages lose pretty easily to a low-mid str warrior if they have an idea of what to do. Warrs tearing through shield+meph or glow+ gale buff etc, Rogues even got it worse because they have no invulnerability shield or high dmg reduction shield. Many are even becoming warriors now because of this, and theres an infestation of warriors at 86. The problem isnt even the weapon proc damage the problem is that base dmg for wars is too high.
    Please investigate this and restore a little bit of balance to 86 pvp ty.

    I switched to warrior, as a 3k str warrior i was beating 4k dex rogs and 3.2k+ int mages it became even more impossible for rogs and mages to win when i geared my tank to 3.6k str. Please restore balance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Squlo View Post
    Rogue/mages together stronk i guess where yall have been while ruling the pvp for years and one shotting tanks actually?

    If you are talking about equality now in pvp I am going for nerf the rogue dmg cuz tanks literally getting nuked through jugg if that is the case lol
    Arent rogues assassins they supposed to kill without getting caught


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    Quote Originally Posted by Squlo View Post
    Rogue/mages together stronk i guess where yall have been while ruling the pvp for years and one shotting tanks actually?

    If you are talking about equality now in pvp I am going for nerf the rogue dmg cuz tanks literally getting nuked through jugg if that is the case lol
    I have maxed stats at 76 as well and I can not combo a tank through jugg. Actually a tank using 1v1 loadout and heroic Elbert kills me fine but not to an extreme.

    If I run out of mana spamming him I’m dead.

    Warriors get 1 shot after jugg is finished and a rogue with mephisto combos.

    Arcane legends is a role playing game.

    I play rogue to do dmg and get kills, but I’m also easy to kill.

    Here’s a screenshot of a warrior with proc vs my proc at 86 stats and tell me if it’s fair. Keep in mind they jugg and their weapon procs 7 second cd and vb doubles their dmg often like nothing bc of haste.





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    Quote Originally Posted by ArcAL View Post
    I have maxed stats at 76 as well and I can not combo a tank through jugg. Actually a tank using 1v1 loadout and heroic Elbert kills me fine but not to an extreme.

    If I run out of mana spamming him I’m dead.

    Warriors get 1 shot after jugg is finished and a rogue with mephisto combos.

    Arcane legends is a role playing game.

    I play rogue to do dmg and get kills, but I’m also easy to kill.

    Here’s a screenshot of a warrior with proc vs my proc at 86 stats and tell me if it’s fair. Keep in mind they jugg and their weapon procs 7 second cd and vb doubles their dmg often like nothing bc of haste.





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    Omggg wthh haha warr has more crit and more dmg more hp more armor and bonus dmg


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    what lvl were you at before you came to 86

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    I agree that tanks do a ton of damage now. We can 1 shot ourselves. I went through caps where war damage was to low to kill any good rogue/mage so sorry but I don't feel bad the opposite is true now.

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