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    before: just 2 gem, no add-on new enhancement= high possibility to reroll op enhance.

    after: 4 gem, add-on many new enhancement plus 4 gem= lower possibility to reroll op enhance.

    devs, simulation is not same as real. you can scroll all feedback from us. that is what we felt. the main good thing we had was only awake to arcane weapon only. it is hard to get legendary enhance to non-weapon + mythic even using arc gems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drawfflerz View Post
    before: just 2 gem, no add-on new enhancement= high possibility to reroll op enhance.

    after: 4 gem, add-on many new enhancement plus 4 gem= lower possibility to reroll op enhance.

    devs, simulation is not same as real. you can scroll all feedback from us. that is what we felt. the main good thing we had was only awake to arcane weapon only. it is hard to get legendary enhance to non-weapon + mythic even using arc gems.

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    Whos idea was it to make Haste a possibility? Who wants that awake?

    Also why am i rolling 1ms, 1 int, 1 dex, 1 str with elite gems??? those are common awakes fr, none of these shouldnt be in the awakening chance pool for elite gems

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    Quote Originally Posted by asommers View Post
    I sifted through all logs since the awakening event began, looked at all items that were awakened and every enhancement received, and did not find anything substantial that would indicate there are any issues.





    I tested with millions of enhancements via simulation and I didn't get 'elite damage and boss damage nonstop'. I tried in-game with several hundred gems and didn't get 'elite damage and boss damage nonstop'. I spent quite a bit of time doing enhancement analysis and elite damage and boss damage are on par with everything else available based on rarity.



    We looked at crafting the cracked from the fragments, but in the end decided to keep crafting blue gems. We have no plans to allow you to craft elite gems.



    Arcane gems are better than Elites by completely removing Common enhancements.





    Nothing should be missing from what was available previously. I'll have to take a look at this by comparing to what was available before the change.



    Sorry, no plans to offer slot locking.





    Sorry, no plans to change the rarities offered with Arcane gems. We feel eliminating Common enhancements more than makes up for the price difference.

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    I refuse to believe that you actually did many tests, cause we can actually see it by ourselves. There are basically no new armors and accessories with at least 7% stats and 30% movement speed. Before we were able to roll these, but now it's near impossible, there are no new gears on forum or in game except weapons. You've added so many bad enhancements which drastically lowers the chance of getting good roll (except for weapons).
    Normal awaks are doomed aswell - even if you bring back 50% gl and 10% ms, chance of rolling decent gl on venal or decent ms on ss is drastically lower cause of many new useless enhancements.

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    Can you for god sake nerf these f elite dmg boss dmg awakes???? It's all i get all the time with every f gem i use! It's almost better using Blue gems cause once every 2839499339 awakes spawn a 2% dex! Cause with elites i'm not able to see it even by far! I swear there is no limit to the lies. All awakes should have same odds on any item and i refuse to believe that this is the case

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    Quote Originally Posted by asommers View Post
    I sifted through all logs since the awakening event began, looked at all items that were awakened and every enhancement received, and did not find anything substantial that would indicate there are any issues.





    I tested with millions of enhancements via simulation and I didn't get 'elite damage and boss damage nonstop'. I tried in-game with several hundred gems and didn't get 'elite damage and boss damage nonstop'. I spent quite a bit of time doing enhancement analysis and elite damage and boss damage are on par with everything else available based on rarity.



    We looked at crafting the cracked from the fragments, but in the end decided to keep crafting blue gems. We have no plans to allow you to craft elite gems.



    Arcane gems are better than Elites by completely removing Common enhancements.





    Nothing should be missing from what was available previously. I'll have to take a look at this by comparing to what was available before the change.



    Sorry, no plans to offer slot locking.





    Sorry, no plans to change the rarities offered with Arcane gems. We feel eliminating Common enhancements more than makes up for the price difference.

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    10 all on weaps, 50 gl on rest, 10 ms, are all missing. We spend already tons of blues, are we getting them back due to this?

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    some of these awake rarities are bad

    mana shouldnt be a legendary awake

    +damage is also overvalued


    also buff to arcane awakes would be good

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    will awakening with arc gems be possible after awake event ?

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    Exclamation STS do something??

    its not possible 750 elite awakening and not even a 5-6% stat in gears (no weapon)

    its insane!! please test! and tell us how many elite awaks you used to be able to get more than 4% jesus christ!!...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgentStonoga View Post
    I refuse to believe that you actually did many tests, cause we can actually see it by ourselves. There are basically no new armors and accessories with at least 7% stats and 30% movement speed. Before we were able to roll these, but now it's near impossible, there are no new gears on forum or in game except weapons. You've added so many bad enhancements which drastically lowers the chance of getting good roll (except for weapons).
    Normal awaks are doomed aswell - even if you bring back 50% gl and 10% ms, chance of rolling decent gl on venal or decent ms on ss is drastically lower cause of many new useless enhancements.
    They act like adding new enchantments arent going to lower odds for other ones the more u add the bigger the pool is the harder it is to get other enchantments if there were only 2 enchantments to roll it would be 50% chance to get one of then if its 5 enchantments it be 20% chance to get one of the 4 enchantments but since theres over 20 enchantments types god knows how bad the odds are haha adding more makes roll worse


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    Slot unlocking odds for standard awake gems are abysmal. I used more than 200 of them and only unlocked 2 slots (in one successful roll). With this low probability it will be impossible to unlock gear slots outside of the event without the use of a significant amount of elite gems. The difference between good awakened gear (which can only be done with plat purchased gems) and average one is already significant, but with the current unlock odds, the entire awake system is effectively softlocked behind a paywall.

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    I can understand that statistically things might be fine. However, what people are not happy about is the investment to return ratio. No one cares if someone got the best awake in 5 gems. They care they spent hundreds or thousands of dollars for junk awakes. Math isn't going to show how a person feels about spending that much for nothing. Granted some get lucky and get what they want, regardless of how much they spend. I can really see a difference in game with how unhappy people are. I know you live and die with a variable reward system but no one is going to like getting 0 return on a large investment.

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    All new events ruined, check feedback.


    Crates nerfed, locked behind a paywall but not worth the investment
    Awakening ruined, locked behind a paywall but not worth the investment
    Inventories/Crafting slots locked behind a paywall
    New Character locked behind a paywall
    Changing name locked behind a paywall
    Bosses buffed and having good gear to compete locked behind a paywall
    10 minute elixirs locked behind a paywall.
    Getting 50gl on venal or basically high Gold loot locked behind a paywall
    999x other things locked behind a paywall.

    Things/bane items we already paid plat for were removed from inventory.


    And tbh there is no problem it all being locked behind a paywall if it returned to something. No harm done in making money. No harm done for someone who gets an output for money, except there isn't.

    It's just the way game works is plat users use it, sell things, make gold and save time.
    Gold Grinders use time and waste their lives off to get a satisfying gameplay and give that gold to plat users.
    That's how the system works, in harmony!

    It's just inflation is higher now, because bosses buffed, need better gear.
    Better gear needs elite gems and good awakenings.
    Good awakenings come by only spending 10x more dollars than it was before.
    Adding a 0 to real world cash means in game gold gets affected and reason of inflation behind prices in game economy too.

    Meaning a f2p gold grinder used to grind 8 hours a day and now needs to grind 16 hours a day to get same experience.
    And a plat user needs that much more gold to make it worth his while for using real world cash.

    Now my question to STS is, you clearly understand all this, and yet 6 days into event we haven't seen any change happening so far even though feedback is tremendously negative except the computed simulations we have heard of because ofc u can run millions of simulations and the maths and code written for chance of awakenings won't lie.

    But the problem is the new laws aren't going to help neither plat users or f2p guys.
    So is this your last resort to extort as much money as possible or is that you are saying you gave up on your game and did expect everyone to leave?
    Because everyone is leaving, i talk to my friends and half of them are leaving. Noone is interested in such an instable economy in game.
    People who used to be online 24x7 have been offline in my friends, some barely coming 5 mins in 2 days now.

    So if that's your plan that game is going to stay like this, please do tell me because i dont want to waste time or money too.
    I had rather gamble on a poker game online and win more money or lose it all with knowing my chances than to give it to you for making my heart sick and sad of losing my money.

    It's not even about the money, It's just time is also a commodity and i dont want to sit and wait until game is left with just plat buyers as f2p is dead and slowly one by one all plat users look at their faces and leave to better places too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by portgrace View Post
    All new events ruined, check feedback.


    Crates nerfed, locked behind a paywall but not worth the investment
    Awakening ruined, locked behind a paywall but not worth the investment
    Inventories/Crafting slots locked behind a paywall
    New Character locked behind a paywall
    Changing name locked behind a paywall
    Bosses buffed and having good gear to compete locked behind a paywall
    10 minute elixirs locked behind a paywall.
    Getting 50gl on venal or basically high Gold loot locked behind a paywall
    999x other things locked behind a paywall.

    Things/bane items we already paid plat for were removed from inventory.


    And tbh there is no problem it all being locked behind a paywall if it returned to something. No harm done in making money. No harm done for someone who gets an output for money, except there isn't.

    It's just the way game works is plat users use it, sell things, make gold and save time.
    Gold Grinders use time and waste their lives off to get a satisfying gameplay and give that gold to plat users.
    That's how the system works, in harmony!

    It's just inflation is higher now, because bosses buffed, need better gear.
    Better gear needs elite gems and good awakenings.
    Good awakenings come by only spending 10x more dollars than it was before.
    Adding a 0 to real world cash means in game gold gets affected and reason of inflation behind prices in game economy too.

    Meaning a f2p gold grinder used to grind 8 hours a day and now needs to grind 16 hours a day to get same experience.
    And a plat user needs that much more gold to make it worth his while for using real world cash.

    Now my question to STS is, you clearly understand all this, and yet 6 days into event we haven't seen any change happening so far even though feedback is tremendously negative except the computed simulations we have heard of because ofc u can run millions of simulations and the maths and code written for chance of awakenings won't lie.

    But the problem is the new laws aren't going to help neither plat users or f2p guys.
    So is this your last resort to extort as much money as possible or is that you are saying you gave up on your game and did expect everyone to leave?
    Because everyone is leaving, i talk to my friends and half of them are leaving. Noone is interested in such an instable economy in game.
    People who used to be online 24x7 have been offline in my friends, some barely coming 5 mins in 2 days now.

    So if that's your plan that game is going to stay like this, please do tell me because i dont want to waste time or money too.
    I had rather gamble on a poker game online and win more money or lose it all with knowing my chances than to give it to you for making my heart sick and sad of losing my money.

    It's not even about the money, It's just time is also a commodity and i dont want to sit and wait until game is left with just plat buyers as f2p is dead and slowly one by one all plat users look at their faces and leave to better places too.
    i remember that time i came up an idea for dev to put platinum (minimum 1 plat) as daily claim but they reject my idea...
    so far as i played MMORPG games, they alway give their currencies as daily claim. except this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drawfflerz View Post
    i remember that time i came up an idea for dev to put platinum (minimum 1 plat) as daily claim but they reject my idea...
    so far as i played MMORPG games, they alway give their currencies as daily claim. except this one.

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    When the game was in it's infancy, they did a plat reward from klaas if my memory serves me well.
    I have to agree with what most people are saying now. It does look like the game is not worth supporting anymore, I hope I'm wrong but the clues are there.
    The events give nothing like they used to be. Events were fun and had something worth playing for whether it be furnishings, pets or vanities. People had a choice on how to play, housing, farming, merching. It was ok to purchase platinum because there was something good to purchase.
    They gave out the "open house" because I reckon that's the last house we'll get and I can't see anymore locations on the horizon.
    I'm beginning to wonder if we'll even get the veteran rewards we were promised.
    Oh and why are you Devs so cold and abrupt?
    It hasn't gone unnoticed that the once pleasant chat we shared as disappeared.
    Is this the way you should be treating your loyal and valued customers? People who have supported you for years?
    It doesn't cost anything to be polite but costs us real cash to feel like we don't matter anymore.

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    leaderboards had plat in them, so well deserved!

    opening crates had plat in them, check old crates

    last years free vendor token currency chests had plat in them, example being goblin event currency chests had 30/50 plat in them besides ton of useless in game tokens.

    With all that's going i am already seeing declining playerbase, they could have launched referral rewards based compaigns to invite new players to game.

    They could have done 100 other things, but if you do not care about the game, we are seeing it already, but to confirm let us know

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    and till now we didnn't see a revert of blue gems giving back 10ms/50gl. How long it takes to tally what was there earlier and what's not now?

    It's like they wont either fix it or do it after awake event when we have lost more gold and gems will be gone from store.

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    Quote Originally Posted by portgrace View Post
    leaderboards had plat in them, so well deserved!

    opening crates had plat in them, check old crates

    last years free vendor token currency chests had plat in them, example being goblin event currency chests had 30/50 plat in them besides ton of useless in game tokens.

    With all that's going i am already seeing declining playerbase, they could have launched referral rewards based compaigns to invite new players to game.

    They could have done 100 other things, but if you do not care about the game, we are seeing it already, but to confirm let us know
    Thats super smart referral rewards


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    Quote Originally Posted by Americanarmy View Post
    Thats super smart referral rewards
    and it wouldn't coost them anything too, but its true game is a sinking ship

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