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    Hello. I know rogues are crying alot,and we got that shield that was much needed with razor skill,this along with blood Aa made map clear much easier for rogue.
    But i want to say Since game is in "proc damage" era i guess,and its silly to me that rogue struggles the most with bosses (check all lb timed bosses results) can you do something about rogue inferior damage compared to other 2 classes? Rogue wep procs is worst off all 3 classes , using blood (stat) or element set.
    Mage got curse+op element dmg with aqua staff, Warr just does insane damage with element/Zodi,and nepta is still op.
    Rogue is left with nerfed krak bow proc, buffed chakram proc,whos DOT dmg is still weak (speaking as 4.730dex rogue with cd wep) .
    Can you atleast make rogue Arrow ulti,only 1 arrow that deals damage as 3 arrows do ?
    While you proc ck/blood/wep proc, and shoot all 3 ulti arrows chances r atleast one(most of the time 2) arrows will be shot without some procs.
    Aimed shot description makes it seem op, but what it does is actually 6-10m dmg while all procs r active. Which is really weak compared to what other 2 classes can do.
    So maybe buff aimed shot -for pve, i dont do pvp so i got no idea if its any good there.
    Thank you. Stefcrit

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    Well if you can't utilize the skillset of the class fully that's kinda on you, respectfully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by |Ares| View Post
    Well if you can't utilize the skillset of the class fully that's kinda on you, respectfully.
    You are doing same comment on evry post. Show me ur solo time on lb fly sir and then back it up
    Respectfully. I aint talking about lvl 20 lb maps where u need 7x speed. Im talking about warr doing 60m tick of dmg with zodi or 20m with element set and rogue doing 3x less.

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    I already enjoying rog class,even rog is not best class.
    But i agree what u said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefal View Post
    You are doing same comment on evry post. Show me ur solo time on lb fly sir and then back it up
    Respectfully. I aint talking about lvl 20 lb maps where u need 7x speed. Im talking about warr doing 60m tick of dmg with zodi or 20m with element set and rogue doing 3x less.
    but you want aimed ult buffed, how does that relate to orrick lb?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefal View Post
    You are doing same comment on evry post. Show me ur solo time on lb fly sir and then back it up
    Respectfully. I aint talking about lvl 20 lb maps where u need 7x speed. Im talking about warr doing 60m tick of dmg with zodi or 20m with element set and rogue doing 3x less.
    You sound pretty upset, it's okay you'll get there one day.

    As in terms of Orrick (as it takes 2-3 attempts to get a score) how is that relevant to rogue ultimate exactly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by |Ares| View Post
    You sound pretty upset, it's okay you'll get there one day.

    As in terms of Orrick (as it takes 2-3 attempts to get a score) how is that relevant to rogue ultimate exactly?
    How did you connect orrick and ulti? Or did you comment without reading? Most of your posts is you trying to show yourself as skilled or whatever tern you want others to call you. Lb orrick isnt connected to ult. I just said that arrow ult isnt the best rn,and suggested how it could be more usefull .
    You seem upset with rogue class changing on evry post. Its ok we can see this game and getting your name on Lbs is your life.
    Dont worry,im sure you will still find way of staying on lbs no1 tries for 2 years and you live for them.
    Maybe,if rogue had damage you could actually try events and maps like temple,and not use alts or other ppls gears so you dont get embarassed.
    Just stop saying to evry1 they dont know how to play,i remember you crying when cursed map came out. And 3 days later when you managed (very late) to do curses you were all about "you need to utilize your gear and skillset,its easy"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefal View Post
    How did you connect orrick and ulti? Or did you comment without reading? Most of your posts is you trying to show yourself as skilled or whatever tern you want others to call you. Lb orrick isnt connected to ult. I just said that arrow ult isnt the best rn,and suggested how it could be more usefull .
    You seem upset with rogue class changing on evry post. Its ok we can see this game and getting your name on Lbs is your life.
    Dont worry,im sure you will still find way of staying on lbs no1 tries for 2 years and you live for them.
    Maybe,if rogue had damage you could actually try events and maps like temple,and not use alts or other ppls gears so you dont get embarassed.
    Just stop saying to evry1 they dont know how to play,i remember you crying when cursed map came out. And 3 days later when you managed (very late) to do curses you were all about "you need to utilize your gear and skillset,its easy"
    Relax buddy, you sound pretty mad. You seem to know more about me than myself (pretty concerning), ironic talking about someone else's life when you're acting like my personal calendar. :|

    As in the thread logic, forums are for everyone - I'm free to post my opinions anywhere about anything. Get used to it

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    Quote Originally Posted by |Ares| View Post
    Relax buddy, you sound pretty mad. You seem to know more about me than myself (pretty concerning), ironic talking about someone else's life when you're acting like my personal calendar. :|

    As in the thread logic, forums are for everyone - I'm free to post my opinions anywhere about anything. Get used to it
    Agreed,and i came with some suggestions so most of the players can enjoy the game better. As what you always trying to us is useless bragging ,glad u didnt deny any of what i said tho. Enjoy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefal View Post
    Hello. I know rogues are crying alot,and we got that shield that was much needed with razor skill,this along with blood Aa made map clear much easier for rogue.
    But i want to say Since game is in "proc damage" era i guess,and its silly to me that rogue struggles the most with bosses (check all lb timed bosses results) can you do something about rogue inferior damage compared to other 2 classes? Rogue wep procs is worst off all 3 classes , using blood (stat) or element set.
    Mage got curse+op element dmg with aqua staff, Warr just does insane damage with element/Zodi,and nepta is still op.
    Rogue is left with nerfed krak bow proc, buffed chakram proc,whos DOT dmg is still weak (speaking as 4.730dex rogue with cd wep) .
    Can you atleast make rogue Arrow ulti,only 1 arrow that deals damage as 3 arrows do ?
    While you proc ck/blood/wep proc, and shoot all 3 ulti arrows chances r atleast one(most of the time 2) arrows will be shot without some procs.
    Aimed shot description makes it seem op, but what it does is actually 6-10m dmg while all procs r active. Which is really weak compared to what other 2 classes can do.
    So maybe buff aimed shot -for pve, i dont do pvp so i got no idea if its any good there.
    Thank you. Stefcrit
    And you would come back here complaining even if they buffed the ult bc most endgame player/content dont use ult lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefal View Post
    Agreed,and i came with some suggestions so most of the players can enjoy the game better. As what you always trying to us is useless bragging ,glad u didnt deny any of what i said tho. Enjoy
    Based on how Orrick's Lb be looking today I can tell that rogue's ultimate and Rogue in general is actually quite good! You should give it a go!

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    Quote Originally Posted by |Ares| View Post
    Based on how Orrick's Lb be looking today I can tell that rogue's ultimate and Rogue in general is actually quite good! You should give it a go!

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    You’re acting as if the “””ROGUE””” on this team was able to actually do something other then sit back and watch mage use hyperos..

    Also this has nothing to do with the ROGUES!!! Ultimate because it isn’t up in time for orrick..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Konichewa View Post
    You’re acting as if the “””ROGUE””” on this team was able to actually do something other then sit back and watch mage use hyperos..

    Also this has nothing to do with the ROGUES!!! Ultimate because it isn’t up in time for orrick..
    Mage using hyperos? :O
    I HAVE TO TRY THAT, sounds incredibly broken!!!

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    Zodias set for rogue and dagger proc, should try that too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adek Nakal View Post
    And you would come back here complaining even if they buffed the ult bc most endgame player/content dont use ult lmao
    Arcane cursewood comming. Also i aint rrly complaining. Its a suggestion . You cam be free and snuggle with your boyfriend instead of searching posts where you could make pointless comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefal View Post
    Arcane cursewood comming. Also i aint rrly complaining. Its a suggestion . You cam be free and snuggle with your boyfriend instead of searching posts where you could make pointless comments.
    Your entire block of text above is complaining about Rogue damage as class in general. Perhaps instead of personal and weirdly odd passive aggressive rhetoric you could've used that energy towards something useful such as trying out the leadeboards you desire.
    Just a suggestion

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    Appreciate the feedback. We recently updated the Rogue based on a previous request for feedback (link), so aside from new equipment, the other two classes will need to be scrutinized first before any additional changes.

    We welcome any further feedback/suggestions regarding this.

    -ALS

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    Rogues honestly are in a good place. The other 2 classes just have an old broken weapon that instantly kills anything if you can proc it asap. During temple mages actually lacked damage based on the lb results and warriors did better yes but their ultimate 6x str is the cause. Every map right now is a 20 second or less run through. No class needs a buff just certain weapons maybe need reworked to level the fairness for those few monthly lbs which only a handful run anyways. All this coming from a rogue...

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    In the case of elemental sets the issue is that aqua has a very high dmg buff, that is easy to proc, while sb hammer has a buff that's good enough and also easy to proc.
    In theory the pisces buff would be quite strong, but because it's such a pain to proc and the only significant buffing weapon for rogue, makes them worse at using it.

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