Preview - Egg-Stravaganza 2025 (Egg-Zavier Returns!)

[Goldencry]

Apology accepted.

I wish you good luck.

I appreciate it!


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[presp600]

Lol everyone is so triggered. Capitalism has really made it's mark on the personality and thus behavior of people, also in games it seems. Everyone wants to get rich fast with the least amount of effort. This event was absolutely OP, and it's still crazy good as it is. You could technically get almost any egg, when does that ever happen. Yes, you have to invest some to get some, but it'll still probably be worth it.

The 60 to 10 minute elixir adjustment is a bit of a steep one, I have to agree. But try to see the bigger picture instead of your digital pile of gold. This is good for the longevity of the game and the economy. Last year all the dragon eggs for example were below 1m each for up to 9(!) months after the Zavier event. That's wild and unhealthy state of item prices. We did not know how good we had it. Until now, when the devs have come to their senses and the players have not (yet). We've been spoiled.

With these changes in mind you can make smart choices in this and upcoming events as this overlaying idea might be integrated into other events and aspects of the game. Hell, it could even make you money if you make the right choices, if you know what I'm talking about. Because that's the ulitmate goal isn't it? (sarcasm). No point in ruining the game's economy like last year with a tsunami of eggs.

All these egg prices dropped because of the crates they added. It’s completely unrelated to the elix which you could go a full 60 mins and get nothing. Now instead of buying 1 elix and getting nothing you’ll have to buy 6. The egg chest are a flawed idea and should’ve never been added if oversaturated eggs would be an issue. The elix is not the issue.


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[Cinco]

You are right! The feedback is horrendous! You should completely remove the Eggzavier event from the game!

Thanks for your support as always!



Also 11 pages ;-)

[PvPfarm]

All these egg prices dropped because of the crates they added. It’s completely unrelated to the elix which you could go a full 60 mins and get nothing. Now instead of buying 1 elix and getting nothing you’ll have to buy 6. The egg chest are a flawed idea and should’ve never been added if oversaturated eggs would be an issue. The elix is not the issue.


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Exactly.


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[Cinco]

All these egg prices dropped because of the crates they added.

This is not true - and I say this because I'm looking at things over multiple years, multiple Eggzavier events.

Just because the 'egg crate' is front of mind to you doesn't mean it's the root cause.

Looking at how egg saturation / egg prices have changed over multiple years - it's really about this specific event (which is why I mentioned that we'll be putting it on the shelf after this year).


Obvs. I don't expect you to believe me. We're on the internet, after all :-)

[Biradoral]

Do it or just sell the game to someone else atleast

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[Statsonly]

I am not apologizing for anything said, i'll be banned first. Standing firm on my decision. Simply could've made the elixir at least 20 mins and end the noise. +1 for losing half the community

[dexxiedex]

All these egg prices dropped because of the crates they added. It’s completely unrelated to the elix which you could go a full 60 mins and get nothing. Now instead of buying 1 elix and getting nothing you’ll have to buy 6. The egg chest are a flawed idea and should’ve never been added if oversaturated eggs would be an issue. The elix is not the issue.


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It is absolutely related to the elixir, how is it not? The elixir is what makes player get the arcane and heroic eggs. Getting those from crafting crates with mythics was and is much more of an effort. The elixir will give us 6 times less runtime, ultimately making it 6 times more expensive to run for an hour. That means people will be more mindful (meaning running less) about running with the elixir. Since people still want to run the shorter uncoming event with efficiency they'll run with elixir either way, resulting in more elixirs bought, which is good for the developers. However like i said before, people will technically run less with more elixirs. The price elasticity of the elixirs is unknown, but I'm 100% sure the total amount of minutes ran under the influence of elixir by players will be much less this year compared to last year, not factoring in the event duration. Good for STS, good for the economy, bad for our wallets, bad for our gold farming, necessary for the game.

[Shocan]

This is not true - and I say this because I'm looking at things over multiple years, multiple Eggzavier events.

Just because the 'egg crate' is front of mind to you doesn't mean it's the root cause.

Looking at how egg saturation / egg prices have changed over multiple years - it's really about this specific event (which is why I mentioned that we'll be putting it on the shelf after this year).


Obvs. I don't expect you to believe me. We're on the internet, after all :-)

Please don’t take this as untrusting or insulting, but you keep referring to the data you’re looking at. Are you open to transparency in sharing this data? I know some may not be able to interpret it if you do share it, but maybe it could put some minds at ease?

Obviously understand if not, data is the foremost in commodities right now, but would love to see it <3 Just glad the game is still kicking all these years later, don’t let the engine sputter out over this!


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[presp600]

This is not true - and I say this because I'm looking at things over multiple years, multiple Eggzavier events.

Just because the 'egg crate' is front of mind to you doesn't mean it's the root cause.

Looking at how egg saturation / egg prices have changed over multiple years - it's really about this specific event (which is why I mentioned that we'll be putting it on the shelf after this year).


Obvs. I don't expect you to believe me. We're on the internet, after all :-)

So instead of making fair changes to an event that everyone liked and needed; you're gonna scrap it after years of running it? Obviously older eggs are gonna get outdated and more will be looted making them cheaper that's just how it works. The newer eggs still hold value, your argument to this change makes 0 sense. Also who cares if the old useless eggs are oversaturated and cheap? The only thing they're useful for are aps

[Cinco]

I am not apologizing for anything said, i'll be banned first. Standing firm on my decision. Simply could've made the elixir at least 20 mins and end the noise. +1 for losing half the community

You have said NOTHING to get you banned! What are you even talking about? This conversation must sound way more dramatic in your mind.

I appreciate everything that you have said. I have stood firm on my decision and that's how things are. We can still be friends, can't we?


I mean... obviously we can't be aligned on the 2025 Eggzavier elixir issue, but maybe we can at least manage some mutual respect? I strongly respect your consistent and principled stand.

You (like so many others in this thread) are a benefit to the community and a powerful representative of the true Arcane Legends player. I don't have to agree with you to respect you (deeply).

[presp600]

It is absolutely related to the elixir, how is it not? The elixir is what makes player get the arcane and heroic eggs. Getting those from crafting crates with mythics was and is much more of an effort. The elixir will give us 6 times less runtime, ultimately making it 6 times more expensive to run for an hour. That means people will be more mindful (meaning running less) about running with the elixir. Since people still want to run the shorter uncoming event with efficiency they'll run with elixir either way, resulting in more elixirs bought, which is good for the developers. However like i said before, people will technically run less with more elixirs. The price elasticity of the elixirs is unknown, but I'm 100% sure the total amount of minutes ran under the influence of elixir by players will be much less this year compared to last year, not factoring in the event duration. Good for STS, good for the economy, bad for our wallets, bad for our gold farming, necessary for the game.

idk maybe it sounds like you never ran the event but crafting 25 arc crates is a whole lot easier than looting 25 arcs with the elix. Mythics are cheap and arcs were rare even with a 1 hour elix as they should be.

[karossss]

10min lix is fine but counting down everywhere is bad cuz playing with high ping u lose a lot of time just waiting for maps to load

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[PvPfarm]

It is absolutely related to the elixir, how is it not? The elixir is what makes player get the arcane and heroic eggs. Getting those from crafting crates with mythics was and is much more of an effort. The elixir will give us 6 times less runtime, ultimately making it 6 times more expensive to run for an hour. That means people will be more mindful (meaning running less) about running with the elixir. Since people still want to run the shorter uncoming event with efficiency they'll run with elixir either way, resulting in more elixirs bought, which is good for the developers. However like i said before, people will technically run less with more elixirs. The price elasticity of the elixirs is unknown, but I'm 100% sure the total amount of minutes ran under the influence of elixir by players will be much less this year compared to last year, not factoring in the event duration. Good for STS, good for the economy, bad for our wallets, bad for our gold farming, necessary for the game.

Out of all the arcane and heroic eggs I looted last year, I can easily say that at least 80% came from crates and a few from locked crates. I ran the event every single day, all day long (I coincidentally got sick right during the best event in AL).

[Cinco]

Please don’t take this as untrusting or insulting, but you keep referring to the data you’re looking at. Are you open to transparency in sharing this data? I know some may not be able to interpret it if you do share it, but maybe it could put some minds at ease?

Obviously understand if not, data is the foremost in commodities right now, but would love to see it <3 Just glad the game is still kicking all these years later, don’t let the engine sputter out over this!

No. There's no reason to share the data. First: if we mess up, it's our butts on the line (not yours). Second: there are innumerable elements of data that the player base could use to gain advantage in the market, and that would literally kill the game. So that's the final word on that. I appreciate your understanding and I relish your support after these many, many years!!

So instead of making fair changes to an event that everyone liked and needed; you're gonna scrap it after years of running it? Obviously older eggs are gonna get outdated and more will be looted making them cheaper that's just how it works. The newer eggs still hold value, your argument to this change makes 0 sense. Also who cares if the old useless eggs are oversaturated and cheap? The only thing they're useful for are aps

I think I'm done explaining this aspect of the economy. Yes - I do indeed want Eggzavier to go away. It is a loser on many fronts. While I have a heavy sway (as the designer of Arcane Legends and a founder of Spacetime) it is not actually my personal, individual decision to scuttle any event we have on the Roadmap. Thus we will analyze this year's performance and make decisions thereafter. From what I can tell - we will be putting this aside in favor of something else. Hopefully it'll be something that you enjoy even more ;-)

[dexxiedex]

idk maybe it sounds like you never ran the event but crafting 25 arc crates is a whole lot easier than looting 25 arcs with the elix. Mythics are cheap and arcs were rare even with a 1 hour elix as they should be.

I've ran last year so I know what it's like. You're right arcs and heroics were much more rare to loot, as they should be. Myths were very common with elix and crafting the creates was very easy and profitable. Perhaps this will be the new main strategy and every looted arc/heroic is just a bonus, even more than last year. Eggs up to myth should be cheap and common for aps sake. Arcs and heroics will also still be widely available and affordable even with these changes, party because of the crates (- the arcanite, the bar is a bit ... yea).

[Shocan]

No. There's no reason to share the data. First: if we mess up, it's our butts on the line (not yours). Second: there are innumerable elements of data that the player base could use to gain advantage in the market, and that would literally kill the game. So that's the final word on that. I appreciate your understanding and I relish your support after these many, many years!!

I appreciate the reply at least, and understand 100%. I will just agree to disagree with the choices this time around, but can’t wait to see what else you guys have in store, I see that goblin event coming in hot!


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[Oawaoebi]

60 minutes is a lot of time. I remember when in the previous events i was not running the event bc I didn’t had the full 1h to run in a pt. Making the elixir shorter makes sense but why why dont u also lower the plat price at the same moment? 10 min for 3-5 plat would not be like it was before but one and a half 2025 plat egg.

Last years change of being able to craft egg crates made the eggs much more worthy and rarer. Eggzavier has always been the event where everybody could get the pets he desired and missed to acquire over the year. We do not want you to hold back eggs from 2020 bc u feel they need to be more special. We all know after Zavier u will bring some special eggs that will completely outshine the ones we have rn. It’s always a higher gl pet (will it be 90 or 100 gl this time?) a better dmg pet and sometimes a faster pet too. Maybe 40ms, would be time for it.


1 egg =^1 shard is pitiful. Make it 5 or 10 shards. That’s fair. Atleast for heroic and arcane rarity.

Am i already on page 12?

[presp600]

No. There's no reason to share the data. First: if we mess up, it's our butts on the line (not yours). Second: there are innumerable elements of data that the player base could use to gain advantage in the market, and that would literally kill the game. So that's the final word on that. I appreciate your understanding and I relish your support after these many, many years!!



I think I'm done explaining this aspect of the economy. Yes - I do indeed want Eggzavier to go away. It is a loser on many fronts. While I have a heavy sway (as the designer of Arcane Legends and a founder of Spacetime) it is not actually my personal, individual decision to scuttle any event we have on the Roadmap. Thus we will analyze this year's performance and make decisions thereafter. From what I can tell - we will be putting this aside in favor of something else. Hopefully it'll be something that you enjoy even more ;-)

Cant shake ego and greed I guess. Very disappointing

[PvPfarm]

10min lix is fine but counting down everywhere is bad cuz playing with high ping u lose a lot of time just waiting for maps to load

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Exactly! Please, at least take this into consideration. My ping is terrible — out of the 10 minutes, I’ll easily lose at least 1 full minute just on loading screens. That’s 10% of the elixir wasted instantly.

Also, it’s important to be able to take a short break in town while your elixir is active. If something happens in real life that I can’t control, I risk losing the entire elixir.

And for new players with little gold, the cost of just one elixir might represent 20% of all the gold they have. Changing this back will not impact much on the overall egg value.


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