few questions

[Donut]

It's not your responsibility to heal and rez but many will expect it and though people will disagree with me, I say you may as well do it. Heal is cheap and will keep you alive too. But yeah, when people start barking out heal orders I leave. If they're real jerks about it, wait til their health is low in some intense fighting then leave

Pinks are the rarest and generally best items in the game. The gold you ge for liquidating them is unrelated to their actual value in the game. Most are worth at least a few thousand gold, and some far more. If you don't have the attribute requirements for pinks your level, thm you want to raise your Int so you can use them.

Lower level players play AO to powerlevel because they are not bright and don't realize that playing the game is what it's all about. Sitting atthe level cap is not as much fun as getting there And AO2-3 is the xp farming map. People just kill all the easy mummies, stop at the djinn and restart.

You have 50 inventory slots to start. You can overfill them, but won't be able to host or join a game until you get you inventory back down under your limit or buy more slots.

When you ignore someone, you will not see their messages. They were talking about making it so you wouldn't accidentally join their games too, but I don't think that's been imemented yet.

well thats the issue for me. is that im usually at full health or have no problem with staying afloat, cause i use potions to keep me in combat. if i go and walk across to heal someone, i almost always get killed. for me potions seem to be quicker than the healing ability, so i hardly ever use it on myself. which is why i dont think to use it to heal the group. especially when the majority of the group is all people that are too low a level to even have any business in those maps.
haha. yea i thought to do that once. just leave them hanging. thats why i was asking if actions like that will get me banned or booted from the game or just have a lot of strangers ragging on me cause i dont do whats expected for this character.


a lot of what i pick up requires 100+ in strength. some dexterity. rarely do i find something that requires intelligence. was never really sure how to spec the character. seem like intelligence is the thing to max out, not sure what strength or dexterity would do other than let me use weapons. but i tried to keep those two equal.


yea i wouldnt mind leveling up faster even more so cause AO2 is the only map i am able to play that gives me XP. AO1 is tough as it is , to get XP points so slowly just doesnt seem worth the effort.
though for me id like to actually be able to get through all of AO2. dont like how you cant join other games if you havent played through all the chapters.



my dislike with the slots is not that i have too many items to store. cause i have maybe 6 things that i actually use and keep. what bothers me is that the character still picks up items on its own when going through each section of a map. its kept me from being able to join games , cause i cant empty out the inventory quickly enough that i end up losing my spot in a game. just wish it was setup so that once u hit the 50 slot limit, that you are unable to pick anything else up. or at least be given the option to loot.

so you mean i wont be able to see if they message me directly? people are always evil in the normal chat that displays when your in a map. rarely do i ever get private messages. if it only blocks private messaging, then thats not very effective.

[Snakespeare]

My healer, Nilsia, is not like you. I heal and revive as much as possible. The refresh on healing is minimal. I can do my ice/fire combo, then heal, lightning, bless, drink some mana pots, and heal some more. And now that you can revive while moving, and revive charges mana, I sometimes even revive when nobody is dead.

It is not necessary to thank me if I revive you, as I would thank feel obliged to thank you back for being tanks on the front line. The people who die before me have taken damage that I would have to take if they weren';t there. So it's actually even up. Serious. Better to spend that time jumping into combat. But if some says Thx, I just say Np.

Also, I do not power level. I'm opposed to it. I guess when I get to AO2, if ever, I will have to learn how to fight djinni's solo, since everyone will be bailing on me at that point. But maybe there will be quests in AO2 by the time I get there, and things will not be so hard.

[Donut]

My healer, Nilsia, is not like you. I heal and revive as much as possible. The refresh on healing is minimal. I can do my ice/fire combo, then heal, lightning, bless, drink some mana pots, and heal some more. And now that you can revive while moving, and revive charges mana, I sometimes even revive when nobody is dead.

It is not necessary to thank me if I revive you, as I would thank feel obliged to thank you back for being tanks on the front line. The people who die before me have taken damage that I would have to take if they weren';t there. So it's actually even up. Serious. Better to spend that time jumping into combat. But if some says Thx, I just say Np.

Also, I do not power level. I'm opposed to it. I guess when I get to AO2, if ever, I will have to learn how to fight djinni's solo, since everyone will be bailing on me at that point. But maybe there will be quests in AO2 by the time I get there, and things will not be so hard.

it recharges mana as well? havent seen that happen before.

suppose thats the difference.is that im right up there in front with the others taking damage and killing off enemies. sometimes im stuck having to defend myself against 3 opponents.
if it were the case where it always seemed like i had bodyguards all around me, then id be obliged to heal and revive. cause itd feel like they earned it.

when people say thanks i just dont even bother to take it as gratitude, since they are the ones yelling at me to revive them in the first place. they never seem to be patient in giving me time to take care of business and then go and bring them back. so i see it as an inconvenience.

then there are those that irritate me, that type 'revive me' over and over. even though im also dead. and i have to walk a long way just to get back into the spot we were at. some even leave the game because they just have no patience. to me thats just lazy and not a good teammate.

im a level 45 now. so not sure if id get more respect from other players. though i suppose now if no one will play through all of AO2. ill just do quests and explore the changes in the graphics for the older maps.

[Tore]

My enchantress likeitsme is really strong but i almost never revive them even if they ask i mean they should of taken better care of themselves and i WOULDNT HAVE TO REVIVE

[Snakespeare]

I remain confused. It costs me almost nothing to revive or restore the others in my party. I just push a button.

What is all this whining about having to say thank you and they don't deserve to be restored? Sounds like the person with the issues is the one who thinks he's doing people a favor.

You're doing yourself a favor when you revive and restore people. It keeps them around. The more people banging on the bad guy, the sooner he goes down, and the sooner you get drops. So, I am doing it for myself.

But, since that's your attitude, please don't join a game I'm hosting. Thanks.

p.s. And you probably got your levels by leeching! Talk about hypocrisy... sheesh!

[Furrawn]

Hi, Donut...

I am in fact the very person that u had the rape conversation with in-game. I was playing w/ my bow bear Scarlettohara who is quite strong except Dead Eyes can be a bit tough Consequently. I can easily explain my position. Ironically, my best known character, Furrawn, is a paladin, and I remember getting in big arguments w some folks who felt mages should stay in the back and heal ONLY. I vehemently disagreed and felt that mages in any build can have damage as the primary goal.

HOWEVER, the Mage is the only build that can heal, and I think it's terrible to not heal. The amount of mana it takes is negligible. Non-existent almost after level 25 w/ decent stats. Good teamwork means a Mage heals.

You refused to heal in the game. You waited til we all died and then you revived us. You were not at the front taking the most damage. The rest of us, including me, since I had a bear build, were at the front. That means we were taking more damage than you. But, for you to see our health going down & not do a heal means you give less than everyone else.

But, forget all that. The sad thing is that you are missing the joy of teamwork. I'm a good paladin when I play Furrawn. People who have played with me have often said I'm a great TANK. I STILL heal. I'm a Mage. Why would I withhold that from my team? If doing a heal in battle makes you die then something is wrong. Healing costs mages practically nothing.

The only expectation in the game we played was that you heal simply when the going was rough - which was only two bosses in the whole campaign.

As for people who call u to rev in the heat of battle. Those are usually people who haven't played a Mage build and don't understand that reviving makes us vulnerable... Though with Furrawn I can rev mid-battle except when a boss is on me.

No hard feelings. We just play differently. I always feel responsible for the health of who I'm with... I love being in a good team where we all work together for the good of the group...

[Donut]

You refused to heal in the game. You waited til we all died and then you revived us. You were not at the front taking the most damage. The rest of us, including me, since I had a bear build, were at the front. That means we were taking more damage than you. But, for you to see our health going down & not do a heal means you give less than everyone else.

first of all i didnt refuse to heal. it just didnt occur to me that it was my obligation to heal.


second, i was taking in damage as well as the rest. only reason i was keeping up at all was cause i used potion after potion to stay alive while using my mana up for attacks on enemies. its not like i was hiding in the back while the rest fought. i was right up there with everyone else. with the bosses i either took the rear or fought off the other enemies that were in the same room, so that the ones taking on the boss, would have an easier time without outside interference.


my main focus was on staying alive and killing as many enemies as i possibly could. that was my participation to the group, FIGHTING.
i didnt pay attention to anyone elses health cause like i said in my original post, i always assume people use potions to keep themselves sustained in a big battle. especially when it comes to warriors and archers. since they seem a bit more robust than an INT driven enchantress.

thats what seemed a bit offensive, was that im there doing my own part and i get lectured on how its supposedly my duty to monitor the other players stats even after i agreed to do my best to comply. just killed the mood altogether.

But, forget all that. The sad thing is that you are missing the joy of teamwork. The swamps are a joy but it's hard to survive as a level 35 without a great team. I'm a good paladin when I play Furrawn. People who have played with me have often said I'm a great TANK. I STILL heal. I'm a Mage. Why would I withhold that from my team?

for me a good team is one where each can hold their own, has patience, is on the same page with one another, and doesnt make demands. a team that actually talks with one another so everyones in sync with whats going on. its rare to find a team such as that. especially in this game, where you are just thrown in with a random set of teammates. cant expect everyone to think the same and do things the same.

The only expectation in the game we played was that you heal simply when the going was rough - which was only two bosses in the whole campaign. We had some younger players with us and protecting them means more damage for us.

i only revived when someone was actually knocked out. which was struggle enough for me in trying to fend my way towards someone. take into account the lag that i get on and off when theres a lot happening on screen. it takes me a moment to see the text, react, and try to find the player on the floor in the midst of all the intense action happening. though seems no one has any patience. they either complain or start being rude..
when i did heal, it was cause i was in the clear of being attacked. so i thought ok nows a good opportunity. tried to make good on that. otherwise i would have not bothered at all, cause it would never have crossed my mind. i would have just found an enemy to attack.

for my character, all the mana goes into attacks.i usually have to wait a bit to get enough to do a revive or heal.unless i take a mana potion.sometimes i have no mana potions left. nobody seems to wait for my mana to regenerate so that i can bring them back.
its a different matter now, since i am actually equipped with a good weapon and armor. so my stats are much better than before when i had low level items.

I'm sure people call u to rev in battle. Those are usually people who haven't played a Mage build and don't understand that reviving makes us vulnerable... Though with Furrawn I can rev mid-battle except when a boss is on me.

happens in every game im in.its grown tiresome. even more ridiculous when the respawn point could be right behind me and still they are waiting there for me to do something even though im surrounded by enemies trying to hold my own. in most instances im there killing off nearby enemies so that when i do revive the person, they wont get knocked back onto the floor again. though no one is willing to wait for me to get that done.

No hard feelings. We just play differently. I always feel responsible for the health of who I'm with... I love being in a good team where we all work together for the good of the group...

im all for having a good group of players that make it through and make it fun. my way of thinking is....if i feel i am capable of reviving or healing someone then ill most likely do just that. if i am attacking a handful of enemies, then my focus is on fighting and maintaining myself to survive that occurrence.if theres a nearby enemy then ill take them on too. once thats taken care of THEN my attention will be on whos lying on the floor and who needs a little health boost. anyone that commands me to revive them, ill see if i can first locate them cause more often than not there are those that like to wander off or they chase an enemy a great distance. if its an easy task then ill keep it in mind if im nearby. for those that just lay there patiently to see if i come over to them.because at least those kinds of people are giving me an option (they are not demanding or expecting me to cater to their every command). THEN ill probably revive them without thinking twice about it. wouldnt expect a thank you or sign of gratitude. cause its all in good spirit. its part of being a team. if they see me there on the brink of death they will come to my aid. thats a good team.

healing/reviving are just not my priority in battle. for some it might be where they go in , stay clear of the heat, and just heal/revive whenever they see fit. i like to actually be in the middle of it all and attack with my fellow players. if i had been a warrior, wouldnt have an issue at all cause no one would be giving me commands like if im their slave. some pick the enchantress with the intent to use the healing abilities. i chose the character cause i thought it looked cool and i liked the wands as the main weapon.
all characters can use health potions. no reason to stop using them because an enchantress stepped into the playing field.

having someone badgering me with 'REVIVE! REVIVE!', 'HEAL ME NOW!', or having someone else whos just standing there watching me being attacked and doing nothing else but telling me to revive whoever is on the floor.....well to me thats not good teamwork. thats just lazy players that are wanting too much. i cant exactly type back to tell someone to wait or give me a minute. cause the second that laggy keyboard pops up , ill get killed. and then depending on the mindset of the team. either we all respawn together and make it back to that spot. or i respawn alone and hope i can get back to that spot without dying in the process of reviving everyone through a crowd of enemies.


i dont mean to go ranting on and on. but its just frustrating. kills the funfactor of the game for me. i do understand that theres people of all ages playing. even youngsters that probably dont know any better.or older players that just dont give a damn. so theres bound to be conflict and difference in perspectives. got some people on here telling me im supposed to heal/revive at all times, got others saying its not my problem and i shouldnt bother.


guess some people have a different take on whats actually going on. in that instance i saw everything as being equal with all players in combat. each taking on their own set of opponents... you obviously didnt see that. you base it all on which character is playing. whereas i go more by the players attitude and overall good morale, because that to me is what makes playing the game fun and less impersonal.

[Raxie]

get some ****ing thoth gear.
the end.
i spam heal. i'm also a paladin and as soon as heal cools down i heal again. i revive as soon as someone dies. it's not that hard; if someone says revive or heal, just do it. you don't need to make a big deal out of it. seriously when i spam heal and use my damaging spells and use my buffs and use my debuffs i still never run out of mana. (unless i'm fighting boss and have mana shield on) you are also an intel mage so you have more mana than me.
just heal or revive. all you need to do is click one or two buttons.
not that hard.

[jonboy]

How many points you have in heal skill?

Royce: agree
Shakespear: agree

It is annoying to be demanded to heal or rev, but for me as a paly I can fight and watch health, healing costs nothing and increases the chance for your survivability in the group.

Rev, if someone goes down I try to get them up, why because if I can rev them and then slap a heal on them, then guess what I have increased my survivabilty

If the person who goes down is another Mage then I get them up real quick, why because if I go down, guess who I'm hoping to bring me up.

This is really important in boss fights and a key to hood groups.

To me it sounds like you have never had a good group to play with to make the comparison.

[Donut]

I remain confused. It costs me almost nothing to revive or restore the others in my party. I just push a button.

yea but youre probably paying attention to wether or not the other players stats are falling drastically. or youre just accustomed to tapping that button periodically.

i always used potions cause when first starting out playing when id die there would be no one to conveniently revive me.a lot of the time if there was another enchantress, they would just walk on by and ignore that im laying on the floor. only randomly would i get revived. so i always do my best to keep my health up. i rarely use the healing spell on myself because it takes a moment longer to take affect and id have to wait a while to use it again which would could seem like forever when youre just taking a beating, whereas the potions are almost instant and you can tap away and itll keep refilling the health bar. so its not like i use the heal ability all the time.

What is all this whining about having to say thank you and they don't deserve to be restored? Sounds like the person with the issues is the one who thinks he's doing people a favor.

not sure if this is directed at me or the other poster.
if its going by what i was saying. what i said was that if someone says 'thank you' afterwards, i dont really take that as a real thank you. because those that say it are the ones that have to nag me constantly to revive or heal them in the first place.
those that dont ask for a revive are the ones i usually go and help if im capable.if those same people say 'thank you' i just dont accept it either, because its not necessary. they say it to be kind. but i just see it as helping someone out who didnt annoy me into doing it.

You're doing yourself a favor when you revive and restore people. It keeps them around. The more people banging on the bad guy, the sooner he goes down, and the sooner you get drops. So, I am doing it for myself.

i see it as the opposite. because if i can bring an enemy down with just a couple more hits, then ill do that. as opposed to having to pause and take damage while getting over to someone to revive them and then heal them right after so they dont get killed off the moment they stand up. well to me that takes up more time and seems less effective. completely different situation if you got a full team thats allowing you to help a fallen teammate. but usually everyones doing their own thing. which is why im used to being that same way..in just trying to hold my own.

p.s. And you probably got your levels by leeching! Talk about hypocrisy... sheesh!

now thats uncalled for. i got leveled up fairly quickly cause i played for several hours each day. game was addicting and i found it to be just like WoW. so ive been playing like 5 to 6 hours a day each day for the past 5 weeks.
made a few acquaintances along the way, so whenever the other is online, we try to play through a map several times together.

[jonboy]

Damn took to long to compose my post

[Donut]

get some ****ing thoth gear.
the end.
i spam heal. i'm also a paladin and as soon as heal cools down i heal again. i revive as soon as someone dies. it's not that hard; if someone says revive or heal, just do it. you don't need to make a big deal out of it. seriously when i spam heal and use my damaging spells and use my buffs and use my debuffs i still never run out of mana. (unless i'm fighting boss and have mana shield on) you are also an intel mage so you have more mana than me.
just heal or revive. all you need to do is click one or two buttons.
not that hard.

well see i only knew about that after making this topic.
and yea now my character has better stats than before. so not as difficult as it was before.

some of the people selling the gear ask for way too much though. i tried purchasing a helmet, and people kept wanting 200,000 in gold. i only had a little over half that amount.


it was a lot harder than you think. now not so much.cause ive had people from here provide a little insight and some gear.

[Royce]

So I stopped reading a while ago, as this thread has become mind-numbing. However I need to make the following point:
If you are a mage, and you don't heal and use health pots, you are wasting a ton of money.
Health pots and mana pots cost the same amount, and restore equal amounts of health or mana. As a mage, you have a spell called "heal" that will restore 140 health at the cost of 30 mana, and will heal your teammates as well. If you use health pots, you end up spending almost 5 times as much gold as you would if you healed and used mana pots instead.

[Furrawn]

Royce is right. I always have 100 health pots & 500 mana which last forever

1) I also spam heal. I push the heal as soon as it is available. Always.
It costs me nothing. Even if it did, bears usually get targeted because they can do more damage. Even if you're up front, you won't be targeted unless the damage you deal is as great. There is a reason that a seasoned level 45 bow bear and a seasoned level 45 pure bear died while you were still alive.

2) And it's very true that the health of your TEAM contributes to your individual survivability...

3) As for needing better gear, many of us give Thoth & such to each other... But that's part of being a team... If we just look out for ourselves like you say is best, we'd sell everything and not share.

4) It's a very wrong assumption to assume if you do heals during a really tough boss that nobody has to use a potion.

5) Healing is not harder than we think. We've all played through from level one.

[Donut]

How many points you have in heal skill?

i originally had 3 points in heal and 2 in revive. had the rest go to the debuffs and attacks such as the flame,lightning,and ice. i did that based on a few posts i read on this forum when i first started playing about which are the best tactics when in battle.

It is annoying to be demanded to heal or rev, but for me as a paly I can fight and watch health, healing costs nothing and increases the chance for your survivability in the group.

i can only fight and keep myself healthy. if by chance the other characters appear on the screen in front of me then id see if they died right in front of me. if someones typing something in the chat, well i have to expand the chat window to see whos saying what.which distracts me. healing may cost nothing as far as mana goes. but at times it does cost me a life which throws me out of the fight.

Rev, if someone goes down I try to get them up, why because if I can rev them and then slap a heal on them, then guess what I have increased my survivabilty

yea and that makes perfect sense to me. but it hardly ever happens that way. best case scenario i get them back on their feet and they help me take out an enemy or group of enemies.
the usual scenario that plays out, is that i go over to them cast the spell, and i die as they get up. which puts me back at the entrance, by the time i get back into the fight, the other player has died.
say i just tap like crazy without really having a good look at my surroundings. well either by chance the person is within reach, or i used everything up and nothing happens. have to wait to get the ability back before getting a second go at it. meanwhile the other player is there losing their temper screaming REVIVE ME NOW!!!. its a bit stressful.

If the person who goes down is another Mage then I get them up real quick, why because if I go down, guess who I'm hoping to bring me up.
This is really important in boss fights and a key to hood groups.

well of course. if they are near me then yea thatd be the thing to do. once i react to it and can quickly take that action. more often than not my focus is on whats in front of me. not whats happening behind me or out of my sight. if the camera was automatic and would show me these things. then yea its only logical to heal someone that can heal you right back.

if its in my line of sight. its what i do.im not opposed to keeping the team alive. i just dont like being nagged into doing something that i can do if i were given a little bit of time.

cause its like yea if i take a few enemies down and am in the clear for a few seconds , if i see a fellow teammate laying on the floor a few feet in front of me. then naturally i go i revive them. they get back up and we are good to go.
if im there struggling to stay alive, and in the far distance or behind me or to the left of me where the cam isnt facing or not fully in that direction, i got someone yelling REV, REV!!, REV PLEASE!, HELP!!!!
its just annoying as hell. its like yes i see that someone needs to be revived. am i going to help them? if i can help them without killing myself to get over to them. if i die halfway to where they are. then i see that as a fail. because i have to start back at the beginning. and they are stuck there or start over as well. unlike if i managed to kill the immediate threat and then get the other person back on their feet again. i see more chance of success that way.

if theres low levels that have no business on a map thats for a higher level. then i dont see the point in reviving someone thats gonna die with each and every hit. just seems like a waste. with the healing.. its just that i never think to use it. im all about the health potions. not that i dont want to heal people. i just dont use it to heal myself, so doesnt cross my mind to heal others randomly. cause im not there staring at their stats the entire run through.

so dont get me wrong here. im not anti-heal or anti-revive. i just cant multi task as efficiently and have the character move and react at the speed of light.

maybe my iphone is too old or my connection isnt as speedy. but its not like im not a team player. i just dont like being taken advantage of or feel like my only purpose in the game is to be the medic instead of fighting like the other 2 characters.

To me it sounds like you have never had a good group to play with to make the comparison.

ive had a few. and those are always the best moments. where everyones kind, respectful, and determined to succeed. these handful of people just arent online at all times. so majority of the time im playing with people ive never seen before.

[Donut]

So I stopped reading a while ago, as this thread has become mind-numbing. However I need to make the following point:
If you are a mage, and you don't heal and use health pots, you are wasting a ton of money.
Health pots and mana pots cost the same amount, and restore equal amounts of health or mana. As a mage, you have a spell called "heal" that will restore 140 health at the cost of 30 mana, and will heal your teammates as well. If you use health pots, you end up spending almost 5 times as much gold as you would if you healed and used mana pots instead.

i dont use money on potions. i always use what i have already. which seems to refill itself in battle. i always have 25 of each. almost never hits zero. usually stays within the 10 to 15 range.

[jonboy]

I draw the OP attention to this, I forgot to mention it myself

Royce:If you are a mage, and you don't heal and use health pots, you are wasting a ton of money.

[beester]

to make a long story short, Furrawn is the best

[asommers]

If 50 items isn't enough for you, you can always purchase additional inventory slots (up to 250) in the Upgrades store. Make sure you buy inventory slots and not stash (bank) slots. They are sold in packs of 50.

-ALS

[Rarefew]

Straight out now I will apologize to every single Mage I've Bern with