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    Quote Originally Posted by Banned View Post
    Video games are stupid, pointless, and I get nothing out of them. But why do I play them? Because they are fun. PvP doesn't need to have rewards to be fun.
    But it makes for great debate.

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    The thrill of knowing that your items are at risk adds so much more to the battle, i guess you just cant understand that. which is a better and more exciting story?
    Man I had this awesome battle, went 1 v 2 and looted some sweet stuff
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    Man i had this awesome battle and i got 2 points

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    sure you enter with no items, but during the battle by dropping fools you earn some by RNG at which point they are lootable. If we do this silly point system then everyone will use the same items because they can pick and choose the best items, and it will be exactly like WoW where templates for pvp characters are largely the same with same skills and same items. With random loot you are looking at alot more unique possibilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddarko18 View Post
    The thrill of knowing that your items are at risk adds so much more to the battle, i guess you just cant understand that. which is a better and more exciting story?
    Man I had this awesome battle, went 1 v 2 and looted some sweet stuff
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    Man i had this awesome battle and i got 2 points
    I don't play for excitement, I play for competition, I want to prove I'm the best out there.
    And when I face more skilled players and I beat them or work on beating them that's where I get my pleasure.

    And yes, I do see your point Demarrer.
    Although if you make the loser team to gain some points too, or make losing a game lose some amount of points, that would also make it not worth the while.

    Quote Originally Posted by ddarko18 View Post
    sure you enter with no items, but during the battle by dropping fools you earn some by RNG at which point they are lootable. If we do this silly point system then everyone will use the same items because they can pick and choose the best items, and it will be exactly like WoW where templates for pvp characters are largely the same with same skills and same items. With random loot you are looking at alot more unique possibilities.
    Ofcourse I want the best items, and eventually it's up to skill.
    Dont you get it, RNG is bad, ultimately I'm losing to noobs who cant play just because they had luck on looting some damn corpses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddarko18 View Post
    sure you enter with no items, but during the battle by dropping fools you earn some by RNG at which point they are lootable. If we do this silly point system then everyone will use the same items because they can pick and choose the best items, and it will be exactly like WoW where templates for pvp characters are largely the same with same skills and same items. With random loot you are looking at alot more unique possibilities.
    QFT, more customizability with looting for this reason.

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    the guy that complains looting wont work because this is a casual game, now says he only plays for competition not for excitement, whose being paradoxical now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shebee View Post
    I don't play for excitement, I play for competition, I want to prove I'm the best out there.
    And when I face more skilled players and I beat them or work on beating them that's where I get my pleasure.

    And yes, I do see your point Demarrer.
    Although if you make the loser team to gain some points too, or make losing a game lose some amount of points, that would also make it not worth the while.
    Team A kills team B until Team A gets the best stuff. Then they flip roles. Trust me, people will do it.

    So you don't play for excitement, then why play at all. I thought video games were for fun and exciting?

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    something tells me shebee is team jacob

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    ddarko18, this is like the 2nd time you make things up.
    I never said that something wouldn't work because this is a casual game.
    Also, why would someone queue for a battle like 10-20 times and leave the arena until they face the other team, instead of facing random teams and even if losing all the battles, gaining by far more points.
    I don't really see the flaw here.

    And as said, I play for competition, excitement comes along, it's like in any competition, you play or compete to be the best, and it is exciting to compete.
    If I want excitement I go doing stuff like jump of cliffs or something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shebee View Post
    I don't play for excitement, I play for competition, I want to prove I'm the best out there.
    And when I face more skilled players and I beat them or work on beating them that's where I get my pleasure.
    Point proven. Screw the rewards. Case closed, you can all get the hell outta mah house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demarrer View Post
    So you don't play for excitement, then why play at all. I thought video games were for fun and exciting?
    Point proven AGAIN. Screw the rewards and continue your walk outta mah god dang house.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Banned View Post
    Point proven. Screw the rewards. Case closed, you can all get the hell outta mah house.
    My point is, I don't want to get defeated by players that I outplay, just because they have better loot they don't deserve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shebee View Post
    ddarko18, this is like the 2nd time you make things up.
    I never said that something wouldn't work because this is a casual game.
    Also, why would someone queue for a battle like 10-20 times and leave the arena until they face the other team, instead of facing random teams and even if losing all the battles, gaining by far more points.
    I don't really see the flaw here.

    And as said, I play for competition, excitement comes along, it's like in any competition, you play or compete to be the best, and it is exciting to compete.
    If I want excitement I go doing stuff like jump of cliffs or something.
    As the original post says, you join as a party and it keeps you together unless you need to be broken up. So why couldn't all ten of us join a game, then it just splits us up. Boom the end, let the breaking of the point system begin.

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    if you want to do something competitive play basketball or something, jump off a cliff????wtf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shebee View Post
    My point is, I don't want to get defeated by players that I outplay, just because they have better loot they don't deserve.
    But you are willing to defeat players by buying better items than them because you play more?

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    Check and mate

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddarko18 View Post
    if you want to do something competitive play basketball or something, jump off a cliff????wtf
    Haha, that has me in tears right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demarrer View Post
    But you are willing to defeat players by buying better items than them because you play more?
    Yes, but getting the best rewards doesn't have to be hard, being a casual game and all.
    That's when it comes down to skill eventually.

    With the loot system though I can lag and not get my best items no matter how long I play or how skilled I am....

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    Woot im a member now! wheres my prize?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shebee View Post
    Yes, but getting the best rewards doesn't have to be hard, being a casual game and all.
    That's when it comes down to skill eventually.

    With the loot system though I can lag and not get my best items no matter how long I play or how skilled I am....
    If you lag in PvP your screwed anyways, regardless of the system. That is the case in any game, casual or not.

    With the loot system everyone can be different, it is more CUSTOMIZABLE. With the point system, at some point each match will have everyone wearing the same stuff because it is the best. Where is the customizability in that?

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