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    Quote Originally Posted by brodiniozo View Post
    Ive read maybe 7-9 pages, didnt read em all.
    Anyways.
    If theres going to be a new "cop" will the xp to get from 70-71 be the same as 55-56? If not, i guess people wit the "new full vanity set" would have to work much harder for a vanity set since the xp seems to increase with each new cap. And if it gives the same bonus as the last set, thats not fair imo..but idk.

    And yea, I got the complete vanity set.
    Xp didn't increase last cap. It was 100590xp for 61, as it is for 66. Xp for 56 was 83840xp, but there were no 4x xp elix at that time, and 1 hour elix didn't exist.

    So yeah, personally, I'd say 100590xp on 4x would be fairly similar as 83840xp on 3x, give or take a few xp, wouldn't you agree?


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    In all honesty this is something that should have been expected. When they released a vanity for nuris and then again for fang, the next logical item to replace was the helm. Nothing is forever. And quite frankly I think that STS is going to have a hard time coming up with something as awesome looking as the COP. I don't have one and it's my own fault. I took a break from the game and missed my chance. I envy every one of you that have it. I always will. But I have my shield and armor, and when the next map after humania comes out I'm not going to begrudge those that get a shield for their achievement. They earned it.

    I'm actually dreading the next armor vanity for one reason, STS seems to be focused on mini skirts for mages. YUCK!!!
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    This argument is horrible.

    I know a way to make EvERYONE HAPPY and EXCiTED for lvl 71..

    Wanna know my secret formular?

    Add a vanity pet..
    Add vanity Ring...
    New feature : Add vanity boots..
    New feature: Add vanity face

    Why do we need another hat already? There are so many things that could be added.

    I have the founders alrdy and im gonna keep wearing it So with another Elite hat its just rly pointless.. Next cap we have another shield. Then another armor. So why even bother getting all the elite stuff now if it gets replaced so soon. The main reason why OLD players STAY is cause they got exklusive items. Make their exklusive itrms worthless, many leave or get
    This is exaclty what is happening here..
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    A big wardrobe means more customization. Visuals are very important in games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DerSchuetze View Post
    This argument is horrible.

    I know a way to make EvERYONE HAPPY and EXCiTED for lvl 71..

    Wanna know my secret formular?

    Add a vanity pet..
    Add vanity Ring...
    New feature : Add vanity boots..
    New feature: Add vanity face

    Why do we need another hat already? There are so many things that could be added.

    I have the founders alrdy and im gonna keep wearing it So with another Elite hat its just rly pointless.. Next cap we have another shield. Then another armor. So why even bother getting all the elite stuff now if it gets replaced so soon. The main reason why OLD players STAY is cause they got exklusive items. Make their exklusive itrms worthless, many leave or get
    This is exaclty what is happening here..
    Very good point, this would easily drive old players away! D3!!! lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jsaieagle View Post
    Very good point, this would easily drive old players away! D3!!! lol
    They might leave but new players will take over. Everyone was new at one point.

    I see "equality" is brought up many times.. Some users are saying "one had equal chance to get CoP during 56 cap". Then why in the world are they arguing over 4x exilers? You'll be given the equal opportunity to buy it and use it. Stop complaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oyeonac View Post
    They might leave but new players will take over. Everyone was new at one point.
    Yeh an MMO chasing away the older loyal players is obviously a good strategy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elyseon View Post
    Yeh an MMO chasing away the older loyal players is obviously a good strategy
    An mmo without giving opportunity to new players is obviously a way better strategy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oyeonac View Post
    An mmo without giving opportunity to new players is obviously a way better strategy.
    Yeh since STS is definitely doing that,
    Since new players now have to pay for all the campaigns just like I did
    They started with zero plat like I did and no way to earn free plat
    They have to suffer through game play with no elixirs

    Yeh this games just pitted against noobs, I means it's not like they made a program to target helping them or anything

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    Quote Originally Posted by DerSchuetze View Post
    New feature: Add vanity face
    Oh cool, I would SO love to be a penguin on my bird or a hawk or a duck or a parakeet !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by DerSchuetze View Post
    This argument is horrible

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    Quote Originally Posted by dudetus View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DerSchuetze View Post
    New feature: Add vanity face
    Oh cool, I would SO love to be a penguin on my bird or a hawk or a duck or a parakeet !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by DerSchuetze View Post
    This argument is horrible
    Lol

    But actually if they made an exclusive face for reaching an elite cap, that wouldn't a terrible idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elyseon View Post
    Yeh since STS is definitely doing that,
    Since new players now have to pay for all the campaigns just like I did
    They started with zero plat like I did and no way to earn free plat
    They have to suffer through game play with no elixirs

    Yeh this games just pitted against noobs, I means it's not like they made a program to target helping them or anything
    That was not what I was getting at. Exlilers? Somewhat, but maps and all.. Nah.

    Olders guys have the vanity set, don't u think it's even if new guys can catch up? It's not like new guys don't have to grind xp to elite caps, is it?

    Also there is an option to equip and unquip items, so oldies can switch sets whereas new peeps can have one set only. Aah and you purchased the main spine of content before they were free? Good for you. You have the Shield of Gratitude, something not everyone can have.

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    Xwhirlz has my side on this one, I thought it was going to be a pet myself. :P
    I would say more but its self-explanatory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samhayne View Post
    Apollo, I'm sorry, but I'm with StompArtist on this one. 100% agree.

    To turn the discussion in a positive direction: What are your suggestions for Elite Vanity Caps? I think I can safely say that we realize that everything about them isn't ideal. What are your ideas to change them?

    1) a way to allow others to "do the work" and get the gear to be on an even playing field?
    2) make it fun
    3) make it cool, something unique

    I'm sure you all would have other criteria as well. So, grab your armchair and let's play designer!
    Sam, i have a suggestion. Since some oldies are crying over their CoP, why not make it somewhat a part of the new cap vanities. e.g. putting the MFA with the new helm gives a specific visual effect, while MFA with CoP also gives another unique effect. then so on with the next items. CoP with new armor gives a unique effect, etc,etc. keep the stats level. I think this way they feel unique with their CoP. just sayin...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oyeonac View Post
    That was not what I was getting at. Exlilers? Somewhat, but maps and all.. Nah.

    Olders guys have the vanity set, don't u think it's even if new guys can catch up? It's not like new guys don't have to grind xp to elite caps, is it?

    Also there is an option to equip and unquip items, so oldies can switch sets whereas new peeps can have one set only. Aah and you purchased the main spine of content before they were free? Good for you. You have the Shield of Gratitude, something not everyone can have.
    Ok yeh so just disregard all the new starting advantages only elite vanities matter in this game

    And yeh pretty solid compensation-pay for 9 campaign then get a little vanity shield that's not even that attractive on my bear

    Oh and why not make that available for all the new players! Can't let them have any disadvantage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elyseon View Post
    Yeh since STS is definitely doing that,
    Since new players now have to pay for all the campaigns just like I did
    They started with zero plat like I did and no way to earn free plat
    They have to suffer through game play with no elixirs

    Yeh this games just pitted against noobs, I means it's not like they made a program to target helping them or anything
    This game is pretty biased against noobs... :-/
    Our tutorial sucks.
    OP int gear in first 15 levels which confuses noobs.
    No help on learning what different skills do.
    No help on learning what different stats do.
    No help on equipping different weapons.
    No help on PvP.
    No help on adding friends.
    No help on using the map.
    No help on knowing your class's role.
    No help on knowing the roles of others.

    :P
    AoA doesn't reach most newbies... It isn't a good solution. Sure, the program helps lots of em, but in general most newbies are on their own.

    Also, did you ever think that newbies have a VERY hard time reaching a lv cap? Its MUCH harder for them then it ever was for you. Once a newer player reaches the sewers, lvling becomes very hard. They are never in dungeons with higher lv players because all of the higher lv players advanced to the next campaign.

    EXAMPLE: P1 (player one) reaches lv 47 (or whatever lv sewers is), and he is ready for BS campaign. P1 enters a dungeon, but none of the players in that dungeon are over lv 52... The reason for this is simple, all of the lv 53+ moved to Nuri's. Now P1 has to lvl through sewers with only low lv partners... You on the other hand, lvled with 55s and 54s all the way thru Sewers.

    Don't you think newer players who joined later then you deserve a set bonus too? They worked hard to get to the cap, and I think they deserve a bonus just as much as you do!...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elyseon View Post
    Ok yeh so just disregard all the new starting advantages only elite vanities matter in this game

    And yeh pretty solid compensation-pay for 9 campaign then get a little vanity shield that's not even that attractive on my bear

    Oh and why not make that available for all the new players! Can't let them have any disadvantage
    They worked hard to get to the cap... They deserve an advantage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Appleisaac View Post
    This game is pretty biased against noobs... :-/
    Our tutorial sucks.
    OP int gear in first 15 levels which confuses noobs.
    No help on learning what different skills do.
    No help on learning what different stats do.
    No help on equipping different weapons.
    No help on PvP.
    No help on adding friends.
    No help on using the map.
    No help on knowing your class's role.
    No help on knowing the roles of others.

    :P
    AoA doesn't reach most newbies... It isn't a good solution. Sure, the program helps lots of em, but in general most newbies are on their own.

    Also, did you ever think that newbies have a VERY hard time reaching a lv cap? Its MUCH harder for them then it ever was for you. Once a newer player reaches the sewers, lvling becomes very hard. They are never in dungeons with higher lv players because all of the higher lv players advanced to the next campaign.

    EXAMPLE: P1 (player one) reaches lv 47 (or whatever lv sewers is), and he is ready for BS campaign. P1 enters a dungeon, but none of the players in that dungeon are over lv 52... The reason for this is simple, all of the lv 53+ moved to Nuri's. Now P1 has to lvl through sewers with only low lv partners... You on the other hand, lvled with 55s and 54s all the way thru Sewers.

    Don't you think newer players who joined later then you deserve a set bonus too? They worked hard to get to the cap, and I think they deserve a bonus just as much as you do!...
    Usually, players go to fang at Lv. 57.... So the Lv. 47 is leveling up with the others...around 47-57
    And ignore nuris
    When there is too much

    Don't forget

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    The game has a video guide like when you open the app, and on chrome, it automatically opens it I think, I agree the tutorial isn't perfect
    But like any anything the longer it's been out, the more starting improvements there will be

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenixking View Post
    Usually, players go to fang at Lv. 57.... So the Lv. 47 is leveling up with the others...around 47-57
    And ignore nuris
    most players dont ignore nuris...
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