Originally Posted by
Bashem
You seriously think if a group of people realize timer doesnt start till a mob is killed or there groups setup skills used strats need to be posted? I loled at that just sounds like somone mad cause they didnt catch it or figure it out. Sorry but people on the lb did all there times fair they took the time for elixir spent the plat. Dont be mad cause you didnt spend the time to get it were you wanted. a moral question? Now your makin it bigger then needed its a game the dungeons were like this for a long time. Nothin moral about it just strats used. So when people are on lb in season two is it wrong they dont share then cause you didnt spend the time/plat? Nope. I take pride in the times as im sure others on lb do we figured out how to get best times with current setups/gear.
Of course I don't think players/groups/guilds need to post more 'traditional' secrets; that would be stupid. But when an exploit allows them to essentially negate the presence of every enemy but one on the level, do I think they're taking a very unfair advantage over others? Hell yes.
Try thinking about it this way: If you and I were competing to see who could beat every enemy in a given dungeon first, and our equipment and stats were equal but I used a completely legitimate trick to cause
you to have to fight and defeat
twice as many enemies as me, would you still claim that was a fair competition? As far as my being upset that I didn't figure it out, there's no way for me to convince you, of course, but I really don't care about my dungeon times, unless it gives me an achievement, as in the Hauntlett. My particular addiction is completion, not leaderboards. You won't find my name anywhere near the top of any of them.
I'll spot you that their (your?) times are LEGITIMATE, in the sense that they/you (apparently) didn't use any code tricks to achieve them, just cleverness in figuring out an exploit. They should stand. But FAIR? No way. Show me any other competition where one side or person gets to ignore 90% or so of the challenges that their opponents have to overcome, and I'll give you 'fair'. If not, then sorry, Charlie.
My comment about this being a moral issue is because I read several posts where people claimed that they/your times should be deleted in favor of the people who ran the dungeon as the devs intended. IMHO you can make that claim on a right/wrong basis, but that is based entirely on each one of us. I don't think you can make that argument based on the times not being legitimate.
But hey, like Astrocat said, this is just my 2 cents. It's not worth any more than yours or anybody else's.
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