Need a developers input

[Reunegade]

It was much simpler back in the sewer days. Each class was superior at something. It was sort of like this:
Bears:
Pros:
Good dodge
Good HP
Good armor
Low skill cost
Cons:
Low damage
Low hit (considering you went pure str)


Birds:
Pros:
Good dmg
Good DPS
Good hit

Cons:
Low HP
Low Mana
High skill cost

Mage:
Pros:
High crit
High mana
Somewhat good hit

Cons:
Low HP
Low Dodge

Now, it's sort of like this:

Bears:
-Dodges everything
-INSANELY high DMG (w/ scythe set)
-INSANE HP
-INSANE armor

Birds:
-OHKO
(nuff' said...)
-Two hits against mage w/ MS and their gone

Mages:
-One crit drain, over 1k DMG. (considering you're pure int, but most mages are pallies nowadays)
-One blast shot from bird, mage go bye bye (considering that you haven't put up MS yet)


-Also through experience, pallies are quite popular due to the high damage given from the scythe set. Although you might think that birds use scythe set also, their bows can do 1/3 of a mages health.

-Mages seem to be locked in choices because if you don't MS, a bird can OHKO you with a blast, and if you do MS, once the bird drains your mana, you have nothing to do except to auto. It is bad for pallies because they usually have to get close to auto, but then birds can just repulse you away.

-With 9 as the maximum level of skill points, a birds evade can bring their dodge WAY up.

-A bear most likely will not win against a bird because the bird can just 2-shot KO.


Again, this is from experience, so correct me if I am wrong.

[XghostzX]

It was much simpler back in the sewer days. Each class was superior at something. It was sort of like this:
Bears:
Pros:
Good dodge
Good HP
Good armor
Low skill cost
Cons:
Low damage
Low hit (considering you went pure str)


Birds:
Pros:
Good dmg
Good DPS
Good hit

Cons:
Low HP
Low Mana
High skill cost

Mage:
Pros:
High crit
High mana
Somewhat good hit

Cons:
Low HP
Low Dodge

Now, it's sort of like this:

Bears:
-Dodges everything
-INSANELY high DMG (w/ scythe set)
-INSANE HP
-INSANE armor

Birds:
-OHKO
(nuff' said...)
-Two hits against mage w/ MS and their gone

Mages:
-One crit drain, over 1k DMG. (considering you're pure int, but most mages are pallies nowadays)
-One blast shot from bird, mage go bye bye (considering that you haven't put up MS yet)


-Also through experience, pallies are quite popular due to the high damage given from the scythe set. Although you might think that birds use scythe set also, their bows can do 1/3 of a mages health.

-Mages seem to be locked in choices because if you don't MS, a bird can OHKO you with a blast, and if you do MS, once the bird drains your mana, you have nothing to do except to auto. It is bad for pallies because they usually have to get close to auto, but then birds can just repulse you away.

-With 9 as the maximum level of skill points, a birds evade can bring their dodge WAY up.

-A bear most likely will not win against a bird because the bird can just 2-shot KO.


Again, this is from experience, so correct me if I am wrong.

Spot on

[MightyMicah]

Reun- I won't quote you like Ghost nub did, (jk ofc )

But this is exactly why I'm not extremely active end-game. I level a character up and participate if I hear it's balanced. Haven't heard it was balanced since briefly in Humania with the Angel sets.

Twinking ftw

[Oskitopee]

i agree with some of the other posts in this thread.
Pro PvPer's who have proven their worth should be able to meet the devs in game once a week and discuss possible areas that can be balanced. There would have to be 3 or 4 members from each endgame class representing at meetings to avoid bias and unruliness. They would be able to improve the game much more and make this game a lot better. Stats could be re balanced. I'm not taking credit for this idea as others brought it up in the thread, i'm just putting my 2 cents in.
By meetings i mean online, not in person.

[Azataso]

Sts kinda already cut out most devices not to long ago anyways. This might've been a valid point 5 months ago. But it's not now. Sorry.

http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...acetime-Engine

read that

[Rushorgtfo]

It was much simpler back in the sewer days. Each class was superior at something. It was sort of like this:
Bears:
Pros:
Good dodge
Good HP
Good armor
Low skill cost
Cons:
Low damage
Low hit (considering you went pure str)


Birds:
Pros:
Good dmg
Good DPS
Good hit

Cons:
Low HP
Low Mana
High skill cost

Mage:
Pros:
High crit
High mana
Somewhat good hit

Cons:
Low HP
Low Dodge

Now, it's sort of like this:

Bears:
-Dodges everything
-INSANELY high DMG (w/ scythe set)
-INSANE HP
-INSANE armor

Birds:
-OHKO
(nuff' said...)
-Two hits against mage w/ MS and their gone

Mages:
-One crit drain, over 1k DMG. (considering you're pure int, but most mages are pallies nowadays)
-One blast shot from bird, mage go bye bye (considering that you haven't put up MS yet)


-Also through experience, pallies are quite popular due to the high damage given from the scythe set. Although you might think that birds use scythe set also, their bows can do 1/3 of a mages health.

-Mages seem to be locked in choices because if you don't MS, a bird can OHKO you with a blast, and if you do MS, once the bird drains your mana, you have nothing to do except to auto. It is bad for pallies because they usually have to get close to auto, but then birds can just repulse you away.

-With 9 as the maximum level of skill points, a birds evade can bring their dodge WAY up.

-A bear most likely will not win against a bird because the bird can just 2-shot KO.


Again, this is from experience, so correct me if I am wrong.

No sewer sucked to. PVP was GOOD when birds mastered in dodge crit hit an damdge. The dodge was taken away fr birds and Pvp sucked. Bears had the same as birds but instead of damadge and hit and crit it had more health armor and dodge. Mage had a fat head and had a little of everything NOT TO MUCH OF EVERYTHING with higher
Mana and skill damadge.

[MightyMicah]

No sewer sucked to. PVP was GOOD when birds mastered in dodge crit hit an damdge. The dodge was taken away fr birds and Pvp sucked. Bears had the same as birds but instead of damadge and hit and crit it had more health armor and dodge. Mage had a fat head and had a little of everything NOT TO MUCH OF EVERYTHING with higher
Mana and skill damadge.

If you think sewers sucked then you're up a stick. Sewers was as balanced as any game will ever get. No class should have everything. Birds mages and bears had just enough of everything to make them successful.

[Waug]

Sts kinda already cut out most devices not to long ago anyways. This might've been a valid point 5 months ago. But
it's not now. Sorry

http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...acetime-Engine

read that

Thnx aza

@op, If so, PL would be a deed city by now, oh let it be. who cares.

[Rushorgtfo]

If you think sewers sucked then you're up a stick. Sewers was as balanced as any game will ever get. No class should have everything. Birds mages and bears had just enough of everything to make them successful.

50 cap was best. You prob weren't there or didn't Pvp than. So shut up.

[Fallen_Chisk_Angels]

50 cap was best. You prob weren't there or didn't Pvp than. So shut up.

Lol ^

[MightyMicah]

50 cap was best. You prob weren't there or didn't Pvp than. So shut up.

Lol. It's obvious just by your statement that you weren't even there at 50 cap.

Anyways, you avoided my statement. 55 was balanced. That's a fact, not an opinion.

[Rushorgtfo]

Lol. It's obvious just by your statement that you weren't even there at 50 cap.

Anyways, you avoided my statement. 55 was balanced. That's a fact, not an opinion.

Lol if only you knew kid. I ruled 50 cap you know before you knew there was a pocket legends? Can't
Be "BALANCED" it's not a fact. You probably joined pl during FIFTY SIX cap not 55. Obviously by your knowledge of pl it's not worth my time arguing with a new player like
Yourself. Good day sir.

[Duflie]

Lol if only you knew kid. I ruled 50 cap you know before you knew there was a pocket legends? Can't
Be "BALANCED" it's not a fact. You probably joined pl during FIFTY SIX cap not 55. Obviously by your knowledge of pl it's not worth my time arguing with a new player like
Yourself. Good day sir.

ooh damn, 426wt4672325

[MightyMicah]

Lol if only you knew kid. I ruled 50 cap you know before you knew there was a pocket legends? Can't
Be "BALANCED" it's not a fact. You probably joined pl during FIFTY SIX cap not 55. Obviously by your knowledge of pl it's not worth my time arguing with a new player like
Yourself. Good day sir.

Ahem. Gcd made birds dominate. Gcd was not balanced. I'm aware it was 56 cap, but I just wanted to be clear with you that i meant sewer items just in case you weren't there at 56 cap either.

Btw, what do the words "Mynas Gen" mean to you?

[Noodleleg]

Ahem. Gcd made birds dominate. Gcd was not balanced. I'm aware it was 56 cap, but I just wanted to be clear with you that i meant sewer items just in case you weren't there at 56 cap either.

Btw, what do the words "Mynas Gen" mean to you?

Mg=Parth

[Riccits]

iam still the opinion pvp gear should be different than pve gear like in every other mmo....
here a piece from Wow with additional pvp stats: http://mop.wowhead.com/item=84832
recently i tried pvping in WoW with pve gear, it was a pretty nice fail, i didnt do any dmg and was weak like paper even i had equiped (good) pve stuff

and pvp stuff should be gained by pvping!

[Ladylove]

Lol at Mynas Gen. Haven't heard that term in a long time, along with Droid Gen. Ohhh the power leveling in Alien Oasis that was so frowned upon. Personally, I think 40 and 45 caps were best... Of course, I'm a bit biased because that was my prime. Mage pally was the thing to be then. Not to mention, firestorm hadn't been nerfed yet, so we could just launch people across the map. Also, the leaderboards didn't come out till 45 I think, so pvp up until that release was much more fun. None of this kill boosting or competing for kills instead of just big fights where we played as a team. Now it's all about personal accomplishment and who is the "best."

I have not hit endgame pvp yet, but I agree that no one should have it all. There should be special pvp gear and each class should have the basic pros and cons that they used to.

[MightyMicah]

Lol at Mynas Gen. Haven't heard that term in a long time, along with Droid Gen. Ohhh the power leveling in Alien Oasis that was so frowned upon. Personally, I think 40 and 45 caps were best... Of course, I'm a bit biased because that was my prime. Mage pally was the thing to be then. Not to mention, firestorm hadn't been nerfed yet, so we could just launch people across the map. Also, the leaderboards didn't come out till 45 I think, so pvp up until that release was much more fun. None of this kill boosting or competing for kills instead of just big fights where we played as a team. Now it's all about personal accomplishment and who is the "best."

I have not hit endgame pvp yet, but I agree that no one should have it all. There should be special pvp gear and each class should have the basic pros and cons that they used to.

This whole post of yours is baws. O.o FOR REAL!

Lol, I think that sts should drop the deaths. No deaths=no reason to 1v1 all the time. Most other mmo's don't count deaths either. Then, even an unbalanced game wouldn't be THAT unbalanced just as long as all classes can get a good amount of kills. You know?

[shhhnfight]

Int set sucks. Eveyone knows. Devs aint fixing it. Still makes me mad. Low armer low dodge. Mages just melt by every class. Int set should be much better because im kind of sick of this when you cant even fight well

[TEOKILLO]

I agree w/ rush, AOE mega blasters were the best at 50 cap