Reasons I stay away from pvp

[Bazinga!]

Step 1) Make a pure dex bird.
Step 2) Get good gear.
Step 3) Rush everyone.
Step 4) Don't care about your KD.
Step 5) Have fun by watching everyone rage and trash talk.

[MightyMicah]

Step 1) Make a pure dex bird.
Step 2) Get good gear.
Step 3) Rush everyone.
Step 4) Don't care about your KD.
Step 5) Have fun by watching everyone rage and trash talk.

Step 6) Realize that you're only contributing to the problem rather than helping progress in the right direction.

[Ssneakykills]

Step 6) Realize that you're only contributing to the problem rather than helping progress in the right direction.

I have to disagree with you here rushing is what makes pvp games flow these days the majority of games these days people are standing around chatting but rushing someone usually sparks a ffa or at least some entertainment.

Saying go is boring and takes forever.. but rushing is fine as long as trash talking doesn't go along with it

[MightyMicah]

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I have to disagree with you here rushing is what makes pvp games flow these days the majority of games these days people are standing around chatting but rushing someone usually sparks a ffa or at least some entertainment.

Saying go is boring and takes forever.. but rushing is fine as long as trash talking doesn't go along with it

See, what you're using here is a logical fallacy. The way you've presented your argument is that there are only two options: Rush, or 1v1. Anyone who played during the sewer cap days knows that this isn't the case. People LOVE FFA. It's easy enough to add the third option of simply asking the map, "you guys wanna FFA?" This way if everyone agrees to FFA, there's much less getting butt hurt because it was voluntary. If everyone doesn't agree to FFA, it's probably for good reason. I can't tell you how many times I've had people say, "wanna FFA?" While I had two brand new guys on my team, and the other team had experienced pros and even one or two were five levels higher than me and my team.

You've also ignored the fact that rushing doesn't start FFA the majority of the time. It starts a one-sided gang bang version of FFA which is not fun for anyone except the guys racking up kills off of a lopsided battle. This is what has destroyed pvp over the last two years. (That and imbalance.)

[Ssneakykills]

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See, what you're using here is a logical fallacy. The way you've presented your argument is that there are only two options: Rush, or 1v1. Anyone who played during the sewer cap days knows that this isn't the case. People LOVE FFA. It's easy enough to add the third option of simply asking the map, "you guys wanna FFA?" This way if everyone agrees to FFA, there's much less getting butt hurt because it was voluntary. If everyone doesn't agree to FFA, it's probably for good reason. I can't tell you how many times I've had people say, "wanna FFA?" While I had two brand new guys on my team, and the other team had experienced pros and even one or two were five levels higher than me and my team.

You've also ignored the fact that rushing doesn't start FFA the majority of the time. It starts a one-sided gang bang version of FFA which is not fun for anyone except the guys racking up kills off of a lopsided battle. This is what has destroyed pvp over the last two years. (That and imbalance.)

Think what you want people have been rushing since the game has started and you still state it ruins pvp which doesn't. I could of given you a better argument but I thought it was pretty self explanatory. You obviously been rushed a lot when you played otherwise you woudnt have such negative views on rushing and saying its ruined pvp which is complete rubbish

+ half the time nobody wants to ffa unless they have fair/legit teams which rare

[Etarbitrev]

Tanks. Mach preeciated.

[represents]

Think what you want people have been rushing since the game has started and you still state it ruins pvp which doesn't. I could of given you a better argument but I thought it was pretty self explanatory. You obviously been rushed a lot when you played otherwise you woudnt have such negative views on rushing and saying its ruined pvp which is complete rubbish

+ half the time nobody wants to ffa unless they have fair/legit teams which rare

who is ssneaky in PL lmao

[Ssneakykills]

who is ssneaky in PL lmao

I'm hankomachos in game

[MightyMicah]

Think what you want people have been rushing since the game has started and you still state it ruins pvp which doesn't. I could of given you a better argument but I thought it was pretty self explanatory. You obviously been rushed a lot when you played otherwise you woudnt have such negative views on rushing and saying its ruined pvp which is complete rubbish

+ half the time nobody wants to ffa unless they have fair/legit teams which rare

You said people have rushed from the beginning which is true but misleading. Pvp hasn't always been the madhouse that it is now. You then said you could give a better argument but, "it was pretty self explanatory." This is a logical fallacy. The notion you're implying is that it's so obvious, no one can possibly object without looking silly. This is not true. Plenty of people object with good reason, and it isn't silly at all.

1. It's ruined build diversity. When the game is all about rushing and being rushed, there is no room for build testing, or running an underpowered build, because you'll get ridiculed and teamed to death.

2. It's ruined fair play. Your very statements are indications that what I'm saying is true. There was a time when the community accepted the idea that teams should be fair. No one wants to play fair anymore. Now, it's all about who can abuse the battlefield the most to their own advantage.

3. It's given ultimate power to guilds and left solo players behind. Unless you're in a good teaming-based guild, people aren't afriad of you and they'll rush you to death 3v1. This is not healthy for a mobile game especially since it's harder to build guild communities. So the majority of players are solo players and will leave pvp very quickly due to the nature of guilds.

[Ssneakykills]

You said people have rushed from the beginning which is true but misleading. Pvp hasn't always been the madhouse that it is now. You then said you could give a better argument but, "it was pretty self explanatory." This is a logical fallacy. The notion you're implying is that it's so obvious, no one can possibly object without looking silly. This is not true. Plenty of people object with good reason, and it isn't silly at all.

1. It's ruined build diversity. When the game is all about rushing and being rushed, there is no room for build testing, or running an underpowered build, because you'll get ridiculed and teamed to death.

2. It's ruined fair play. Your very statements are indications that what I'm saying is true. There was a time when the community accepted the idea that teams should be fair. No one wants to play fair anymore. Now, it's all about who can abuse the battlefield the most to their own advantage.

3. It's given ultimate power to guilds and left solo players behind. Unless you're in a good teaming-based guild, people aren't afriad of you and they'll rush you to death 3v1. This is not healthy for a mobile game especially since it's harder to build guild communities. So the majority of players are solo players and will leave pvp very quickly due to the nature of guilds.

We will just have to agree to disagree then

[Waug]

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This is what has destroyed pvp over the last two years. (That and imbalance.)

this is really funny & far from reality.

People r opportunist, i'm not saying everyone or ur, but most of . Even you dont have to be a so called rusher to get rushed or teamed by guild as you mentioned, neither this has been since last two years.

Another funny thing I noticed is - rushing and good build relation, there are some who only say go or accept go only when they feel, they can win easily and specially against weaker player, just to build a good KD. This is just an example to show that how go system maynot be realted to skill.

[MightyMicah]

this is really funny & far from reality.

People r opportunist, i'm not saying everyone or ur, but most of . Even you dont have to be a so called rusher to get rushed or teamed by guild as you mentioned, neither this has been since last two years.

Another funny thing I noticed is - rushing and good build relation, there are some who only say go or accept go only when they feel, they can win easily and specially against weaker player, just to build a good KD. This is just an example to show that how go system maynot be realted to skill.

See, here you present a logical fallacy, same as Sneaky did.

You first begin by laughing at my statements as if to assume that they're so foolish that they're laughable. Yet you give nothing to back it up. This implies that I'm just a foolish person with nothing good to say and you're so high above me intellectually that my statements are laughable to you.

You went on to say that people are opportunist. This is true, they always have been. But that has nothing to do with why people rushed. Rushing predominantly started a few years ago with unknown terrorists. They were the first big force to begin ruling the scene and introducing the idea of guild gang banging. What many don't know is that I was an officer in that guild and good friends with Jop. As a matter of fact, it was jop and I who first discussed the idea of creating another guild for us to share. That was until he stabbed me in the back for extra kills and then kicked me from the guild to create a new one with another friend. It was then that I realized rushing isn't worth it.

You then present two more fallacies by acting as if the only people who 1v1 are in it for good KDR, and that the only options for the arena are rushing and 1v1. This is what sneaky tried to pull. It's not true. There is such thing as FFA and anyone who played during sewer cap knows what I'm referring to. Try asking politely to FFA some time. You'll be surprised by how many people agree to it, and if they don't I'll bet there is good reason for it. No one wants to FFA against people five levels higher than them. And no one wants to FFA while they have two brand new PvPers on their team.

[Waug]

See, here you present a logical fallacy, same as Sneaky did.

You first begin by laughing at my statements as if to assume that they're so foolish that they're laughable. Yet you give nothing to back it up. This implies that I'm just a foolish person with nothing good to say and you're so high above me intellectually that my statements are laughable to you.

You went on to say that people are opportunist. This is true, they always have been. But that has nothing to do with why people rushed. Rushing predominantly started a few years ago with unknown terrorists. They were the first big force to begin ruling the scene and introducing the idea of guild gang banging. What many don't know is that I was an officer in that guild and good friends with Jop. As a matter of fact, it was jop and I who first discussed the idea of creating another guild for us to share. That was until he stabbed me in the back for extra kills and then kicked me from the guild to create a new one with another friend. It was then that I realized rushing isn't worth it.

You then present two more fallacies by acting as if the only people who 1v1 are in it for good KDR, and that the only options for the arena are rushing and 1v1. This is what sneaky tried to pull. It's not true. There is such thing as FFA and anyone who played during sewer cap knows what I'm referring to. Try asking politely to FFA some time. You'll be surprised by how many people agree to it, and if they don't I'll bet there is good reason for it. No one wants to FFA against people five levels higher than them. And no one wants to FFA while they have two brand new PvPers on their team.

Why are you pushing things, and describing funny as 'laughing at foolish things' that's not true neither I meant that. There are no fallacies in my post, but you narrowed down example and started to judge everything based on a specific example, that's not what an example is, that example was based on specific circumstances I mentioned, apply that example to any other situation is itself a fallacy, hopefully you'll understand that.

I have to say you have really few misconception like rushing was started by some terrorist, jop or whatever you call it, you're taking about a specific twink level and judging the whole game PvP by that. Which have to be, and which is totally false. Rushing was significantly before that as it's now overall across the game,

[imleya]

step 7) become the mighty micah

[MightyMicah]

step 7) become the mighty micah

Leya!!! I didn't know you still played