I am and the game is more dead than usual because they r still broken took u this long to not even nerf them enoughOriginally Posted by Cinco
I am and the game is more dead than usual because they r still broken took u this long to not even nerf them enough
#2
You got it all wrong.
It’s okay.
I do wish you the best nevertheless.
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I can vouch, whamm armor is still overpowered. When you literally cannot beat someone with l25 elites with any combo of gear at lvl 40 u know it's still wrong. Please nerf it again. You know it's op when ppl have to ask before a fight (or after when they get demolished ) "are you using whamm?" Just remove the 200 health buff fr.
#4
That's reasonable feedback (whereas expecting the 25 Elites to do zero damage and the armor to have zero armor is not) :-)
in all honesty, I Don't think the l25 weapons are a problem anymore (meta at lvl 25-29 but not insane), I have used all of them for testing at lvl 35/40 and they seem to be appropriate, my only quarrel is with whamm armor giving so much hp, and (maybe) 9th bday shield giving 9% hit conjoined with crazy good armor and damage at twink levels with no stat requirements (like dex or str or int) is pretty nuts
Whamm is the ONLY thing stopping pvp from being a nuke fest. Do you really want pvp to become a 1-3 skill shotting warzone? Whamm has to be nerfed SIMULTANEOUSLY with L10 valentine rings and ammies. Have them nerfed together or don't touch either of them.
Whamm with L10 ring and ammy actually feels ok to use. However it becomes an issue at 40 where mage is too tanky. 35 as well to some extent. My only issue with the whamm armour is that it benefits some classes a lot more than others. Birds can't compete.
DISCLAIMER: There should be a good amount of agreement from other players before these changes get implemented (if they do)!
My solutions:
1) Nerf whamm further so that it matches the stats of a 25 armour, maybe give it less armour than it's L25 counterpart but whamm has the niche of giving hp (unlike any other armours).
2) Increase level requirement of whamm and L10 valentine rings and amulets to level 76. Me and a few friends have tested it there and felt that those equipment were more natural in that particular zone. STS has increased level requirement for 3pc. Maybe something similar could be done here. Easiest fix imo.
3) Set the stats of the 25 elites to zero ONLY in forest fight and rockwell forts. I appreciate this may be longwinded to implement which is way I think option 2 is the best.
Also as of now, the 25 elite weapons feel mostly fine. However, the 25 blaster should have a small dmg nerf still. MageFFA / Quality has a good idea for this. The armour values that the 25 elite weapons should greatly be reduced imo considering they are 2h weapons!
Again changing the lvl requirement to wear these is also a suitable fix. I'd like to propose this more so for the 25 elite 2h sword and the 25 elite 2h staff. Blaster is a good weapon for birds and should stay where it's at.
If they wanted to make it easier just remove rings and ammys from pvp entirely lol. It's hard enuff balancing gear
There will be some people who complain that their rings and ammies dont work in pvp. This is similar to how they couldnt remove enchants in pvp, had to make it make it map specific so that the crazy people who love enchants and paid for them (with irl money sometimes mind you) can still use them.
It's a pretty clever way to please everyone without backlash.
Just nerf all low lvl elites (except for the og 71 76 elites) to 0 and yes that also means valentine
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If the 25's and Valentine's go to zero, the 71's, 76's also get nerfed to zero... in the interest of fairness :-)
Hi cinco, the reason why people don't have an issue with 71 elites or 76 elites is because they don't provide any advantage over the normal campaign weapons.
In an ideal world, the L25 elites and valentines would be tweaked so that they are similar to normal campaign items . Nerfing their stats to zero in our no enchant maps would be easier for ur team to code.
Ofc if ur commited to tweaking the aforementioned items, then be my guest. We just want to make life easier and quicker for the dev team. There's some valuable suggestions on PL central at the moment. I think raising their lvl requirement is the best way.
Last edited by Vapourised; 03-21-2022 at 04:47 PM.
You'll find that the pink L10 rings and amulets valentine also give relatively op stats.
That why i said valentine at this point no enchant maps were pointless since the items that shouldnt have even been added to pl arent getting nerfed
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