#BuffBird @Cinco

[plpr]

What PVP level are you talking about? There are none left to balance. It’s either endgame or level 25 blaster auto pvp. Both are a joke And its clear balance isn’t a priority. On another level, PVP has never been a priority for them and it seemingly never will be. How many hundreds of threads complaining about the same things have never been fixed? It must be in the thousands. It is absolutely pointless to touch any classes skills or stats when the core pvp is absolutely unplayable and ruined.
Get on a level 22 once and join a level 18 game. Then join a 22 game. Then join a 27 game. The stats in every game are completely different it’s like a jungle gym mess that nobody can decipher. How bad is the design that just 5 levels away your doing 250 damage skills then 50? What a joke.

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[MageFFA]

What PVP level are you talking about? There are none left to balance. It’s either endgame or level 25 blaster auto pvp. Both are a joke And its clear balance isn’t a priority. On another level, PVP has never been a priority for them and it seemingly never will be. How many hundreds of threads complaining about the same things have never been fixed? It must be in the thousands. It is absolutely pointless to touch any classes skills or stats when the core pvp is absolutely unplayable and ruined.
Get on a level 22 once and join a level 18 game. Then join a 22 game. Then join a 27 game. The stats in every game are completely different it’s like a jungle jim mess that nobody can decipher. How bad is the design that just 5 levels away your doing 250 damage skills then 50? What a joke.

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That's true. The game did go in a different direction that nobody wanted. While elite PvP is indeed a joke compared to normal PvP we still cannot just ignore it. Elite PvP is becoming the face of twink now, especially in 25+. It's now our job to balance the elites so that it's at least fair in some aspect. Wham armor use to be so much more op compared to the zamm and blamm, now look at it. Elite 1 hand weapons will be buffed soon and elite blaster might be toned down. Obviously work is getting done to fix the issue. That does not mean we should ignore the class issue.

Tournements aren't hosted in regular PvP so let's get that out of the way. Endgame cannot and will not have any tournements until mythics are taken out of paywalls. That leaves us with honor. Honor PvP is the most balanced we've got and even that has it's issues, one of which is based on class. We shouldn't ignore that either.

Also stat difference only applies to 25-27 lobbies where it's based on how 2013 felt, this isn't exactly like 2013 PvP but close enough to be replicated.