Tanks = Nurse

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Are u suggesting STS make warriors a support class? rogues don't even need tank to carry their handbags. Mages were in the same boat before they got their buff now they can actually contribute and do good damage in both pve and pvp. Dps doesn't need warrior if they know how to avoid red zones and spam pots. There is no use of a tank in AL anymore so it's better to make all three classes damage dealers. It will revive the dead warrior class. Leechers are in every class that has nothing to do with the tank problem. New passives like u describe won't solve the issue because the tank won't be invited to elite party even if manages to hold aggro cause it's not about taunt anymore it's all about dealing damage as fast as u can.

I'd like to argue that many of the tanks I run elite with are quite essential to the runs. Most tanks don't try for lots of DMG because they were always told to do HP/ARMR builds. In fact I'll pick the tank Killerxyler (GM of Trinity Knights) who has a good amount of damage (over 600 I'm pretty sure) and he is nobody's nurse, tanks can near be the beat class in AL if they try.. Without tanks even a mage like me who is very experienced and knowledgeable (not too badly geared) with 4.6k HP and 1505 armor suffers without a tank. We need them because not all of us can have that 5k HP 1.7k+ armor. If tanks are made into a damage class and a new priest-like class is made it will most definitely fail. Nobody wants to be in a run for the sole purpose of being a nurse. It would be a waste of programming that could go into better looking items new pet ideas more gear that is achievable for elite farmers and NEW events and most of all a well tested and thoroughly thought through expansion...

[Hustle]

I'd like to argue that many of the tanks I run elite with are quite essential to the runs. Most tanks don't try for lots of DMG because they were always told to do HP/ARMR builds. In fact I'll pick the tank Killerxyler (GM of Trinity Knights) who has a good amount of damage (over 600 I'm pretty sure) and he is nobody's nurse, tanks can near be the beat class in AL if they try.. Without tanks even a mage like me who is very experienced and knowledgeable (not too badly geared) with 4.6k HP and 1505 armor suffers without a tank. We need them because not all of us can have that 5k HP 1.7k+ armor. If tanks are made into a damage class and a new priest-like class is made it will most definitely fail. Nobody wants to be in a run for the sole purpose of being a nurse. It would be a waste of programming that could go into better looking items new pet ideas more gear that is achievable for elite farmers and NEW events and most of all a well tested and thoroughly thought through expansion...

You are saying exactly what I amsaying. Tanks are supposed to be essential to elite runs and most go for Hp/armor cause that's what is required. The problem is that even a tank with 600 dmg, 3k armor and 8k plus hp is basically support in elite. No one really needs a tank in elite and you can forget any tank on a lb timed run. Yes all these things you suggest devs work on are also essential but so is a warrior class that can enjoy and, once again, be essential to the pve aspect of the game. As you said no one likes to be in a run for the sole purpose of being a nurse in random elite groups.

[Hustle]

Mages are the support class if you are talking about AL.



P.s.: stop attacking the people trying to post an argument and trying to keep the quintessence of AL as it is always has been.



That edit is offensive in a lot of ways. Your enjoyment,=asking for damagae on a class that is able to hold aggro constantly, provide an immunity shield to all of its allies, pull members towards it, provide itself with a newly implemented immortality skill. Yes please let's just provide the tanks with a nuclear arsenal so that they can rule how they used to in PvP. That will never be happening, never ever. Never ever ever. Ever.

On a side note calling me a troll won't get this thread anywhere, if you can't argue like a sane person, and nott call me a troll like a billion times I suggest just ignore this post because the people who are meant to read it might(or might nott read it).

Giving tanks damage isn't the way to see them implemented in timed runs, if tanks were given an aimed shot. Rogues=female warriors. This would forever destroy how AL has been played. Before you spew about some nonsensical D &D game that you played with preists and stuff, those D&D games never lasted long due to no exclusivity, nada originality of their game. I would rather nott go in the same direction as your "class D&D" class.

If you still think this is a troll and nott a player who has an elephants thread which specifically asked more DPS out put on warriors and nott in a nukey kind of a way rather a buff or debuff kind of way, I hope you have a good day and even wonderful life.

This is trolling what you've been doing on almost all tank threads.
All you're saying and have been saying is that you are afraid of tanks ruling pvp again probably because a lot of tanks must have killed you in pvp a couple of seasons ago or whenever it is you used to play the game. If you had tried endgame pvp before the jugg buff (which was quickly removed) you would have seen that pro mages were routinely wrecking geared tanks. The less said about rogues the better. The tank is basically obselete in pve. Warriors can hardly expect mages to make threads about buffing tanks so the OP posted a solution albeit angry worded but a solution. Yeah sure now All mages want is to maintain the "quintessence" of the game but what was all that begging and raging before Mage buff about then?

PS I thought my edit was much less offensive than the "people trying to post an aguement"

[Ihateppl]

This is trolling what you've been doing on almost all tank threads.
All you're saying and have been saying is that you are afraid of tanks ruling pvp again probably because a lot of tanks must have killed you in pvp a couple of seasons ago or whenever it is you used to play the game. If you had tried endgame pvp before the jugg buff (which was quickly removed) you would have seen that pro mages were routinely wrecking geared tanks. The less said about rogues the better. The tank is basically obselete in pve. Warriors can hardly expect mages to make threads about buffing tanks so the OP posted a solution albeit angry worded but a solution. Yeah sure now All mages want is to maintain the "quintessence" of the game but what was all that begging and raging before Mage buff about then?

PS I thought my edit was much less offensive than the "people trying to post an aguement"

LOL.

Im going to assume that you were part of the people who asked the OP to make a thread on this subject? Gj giving thanks to all of his posts btw.

If your going to insult me about my name, get in line, I deal with people like you and the OP every single time I log on to this game.

Just because tanks dont like working harder then mages and rogues does not mean they need a buff.

[Hustle]

LOL.

Im going to assume that you were part of the people who asked the OP to make a thread on this subject? Gj giving thanks to all of his posts btw.

If your going to insult me about my name, get in line, I deal with people like you and the OP every single time I log on to this game.

Just because tanks dont like working harder then mages and rogues does not mean they need a buff.

Noone's insulting your name 'mate' and it's not like that's the name your parents gave you so don't take the jokes personally. Although it fits you pretty well.
Yeah I did ask him to make his post a thread and it was aimed at getting some sort of response from the moderators so could you and your BFF stop trying to provoke and make this an arguement instead of a discussion? (Pretty please with sugar on top)
I normally try not to give trolls the attention they seek but before you say tanks don't want to work hard like rogues and mages take a look at the top player lb and all those tanks who have managed over 1m pve kills. Look at all those lvl 7 tanks who managed so many kills that most endgame tanks don't have a prayer of getting on the ctf/tdm lb. look at Markus who soloed planar tombs elite. They did that by bashing mobs/smurfs with shields and that's the definition of hard work 'mate'.

[Ihateppl]

Noone's insulting your name 'mate' and it's not like that's the name your parents gave you so don't take the jokes personally. Although it fits you pretty well.
Yeah I did ask him to make his post a thread and it was aimed at getting some sort of response from the moderators so could you and your BFF stop trying to provoke and make this an arguement instead of a discussion? (Pretty please with sugar on top)
I normally try not to give trolls the attention they seek but before you say tanks don't want to work hard like rogues and mages take a look at the top player lb and all those tanks who have managed over 1m pve kills. Look at all those lvl 7 tanks who managed so many kills that most endgame tanks don't have a prayer of getting on the ctf/tdm lb. look at Markus who soloed planar tombs elite. They did that by bashing mobs/smurfs with shields and that's the definition of hard work 'mate'.

You mean Makro? lmao.

[Hustle]

You mean Makro? lmao.

Macro? Macro for what? Ur saying end game tanks on lb got all their kills using macros while all rogues and mages got them honestly? Or that Markus used macro to solo elite planar? Lvl 7 tanks don't need macros to kill their dummies/smurfs..Dude if ur out of nonsense to spew please move on to a different thread.