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    Default Is it by Design? Why is the Attack Range of Bulwark Ridiculously Short?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    How can you kill me if your cannon is nerfed? xD


    Additionally, another effective solution would be to bump up the damage reduction that a rogue faces when entering PvP. So, instead of a 10% damage nerf, a 15-20% damage nerf sounds pretty good.
    Turns our Might be booking a flight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FluffNStuff View Post
    Woohoo, enthusiast! And Zeus, I kill you if you get my cannon nerfed!
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    How can you kill me if your cannon is nerfed? xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowsfoot View Post
    This sounds great for twinks who are already being bludgeoned to deatg by warriors.
    True, I didn't think about it on a twink level. I guess nerfing the bow and me dying at the hands of Fluff & Serancha is a good solution!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    True, I didn't think about it on a twink level. I guess nerfing the bow and me dying at the hands of Fluff & Serancha is a good solution!

    *writes will*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    True, I didn't think about it on a twink level. I guess nerfing the bow and me dying at the hands of Fluff & Serancha is a good solution!

    *writes will*

    Hmm, who do I grant arcane ring to? O_O
    So single damage power hitters are getting killed by by twink warriors? Of course they are. Rogue damage has a geometric curve, like ... The Bird. Can't have a sharp curve on the character and still expect them to be good at end game and twink. That's just not how it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FluffNStuff View Post
    So single damage power hitters are getting killed by by twink warriors? Of course they are. Rogue damage has a geometric curve, like ... The Bird. Can't have a sharp curve on the character and still expect them to be good at end game and twink. That's just not how it works.
    Their proportional stats are actually linear, the most linear of any class. Warriors have an inherent advantage at low levels due to VB and their proportionally lower damage isn't he far of a draw back since damage isn't calculated relative to level.

    Geometric is still quite a hyperbole even if it isn't totally linear.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowsfoot View Post
    Their proportional stats are actually linear, the most linear of any class. Warriors have an inherent advantage at low levels due to VB and their proportionally lower damage isn't he far of a draw back since damage isn't calculated relative to level.

    Geometric is still quite a hyperbole even if it isn't totally linear.
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    Guys, while sharing your opinion is deeply appreciated here, please stay on point and keep it troll-free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uicheusa View Post
    Guys, while sharing your opinion is deeply appreciated here, please stay on point and keep it troll-free.
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    Hey guys,

    I've taken a look at the data for the Bulwark, and wanted to share my results!

    From what I see, the range of the Bulwark is identical to that of any Sword & Board in the game currently. This includes the Pavise, Conquistador, Fire, Nordr, etc items of the same category. The 3 enemy cleave is also intact, and they all share the same 180 degree hit cone in front of the tank.
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    Bulwark's hit range is so short that I got kited by a gunman (yes! the mob!) in Kraken...

    True story...

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    As for Carapace, I tried so many times in map with both Bulwark and Conquerer's Wall by hitting stationary target like a barrel.

    With a range in which you can barely hit your object with a Conquerer's Wall, you will never hit with a Bulwark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uicheusa View Post
    As for Carapace, I tried so many times in map with both Bulwark and Conquerer's Wall by hitting stationary target like a barrel.

    With a range in which you can barely hit your object with a Conquerer's Wall, you will never hit with a Bulwark.
    Carapace is a Dev. He's right. There are no opinions here, he just deals with facts.


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    A complete miss.

    Try to replicate the result with any other weapon in AL

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    Also, I noticed that with any other weapon equipped, if your attack is slightly off your target, it will be directed to a land a successful hit by taking your character half a step closer to your target. This is done automatically in both PVP and PVE.

    However, with Bulwark equipped, my character seems to lose this kind of auto adjustment.

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    too lazy to quote lol.
    but,
    Zeus crit 5k+ to warrior of 2k+ armour ? LOL.
    thank God I dnt pvp in endgame.

    at twink lvls warriors are OP .

    NERF THE BOW PLZ. ITS DMG IS OFFCHART.

    and about buffing bulwark,
    either it should have nice proc or high dps and some good armour (atleast 400 armour) with lil bit more HP buff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crowsfoot View Post
    Zeus, just give all your gold to Tharidom. I promise he will stop complaining xD
    Sounds good to me.

    Edit: 20mill also will do thoughXD.
    Last edited by tharidom; 07-11-2014 at 03:08 AM.

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    Maybe add a samael like passive mana+hp healing to the bulwark? It will make it useful for long seasons, also good in pvp clashes.

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    Atack range increase like pavise and add 10-30 dmg more or dont add dmg add buff 25 Str with normal hit atack.

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    An interesting thread....
    But in my perspective I still find the Pavise to be my favourite . Insooth it is terribly out dated but it is a lvl 31 weapon and we are still comparing it to weapons of this generation, if you can get its proc to spam that would be amazing...for me I got the weapons proc 7 times in a row, makes for a easy to kill mob in elite whom are stunned beyond all recognition.

    I also like the Pavise not for its proc, but for its look. It is the only Mythic grade weapon to date that has a light circle/ring and on another note I think it looks "swag".

    P.S. Be grateful that you can actually AFFORD weapons like this, think about all the poor players whom dream of Ripmaw in their stable...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haligali View Post
    Maybe add a samael like passive mana+hp healing to the bulwark? It will make it useful for long seasons, also good in pvp clashes.
    This encourages players to stand near the tank risking damage from area based attacks and having a higher chance to steal my aggro.

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    This would only be beneficial in PvP.


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