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    Quote Originally Posted by Avta View Post
    My numbers may have been wrong, but the point that farming PvE and PvP kills both requires time and effort still stands....



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    Yes and you'd be correct, both would require time. But that's not the point I'm making. One type of farming is ethical the other isn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Neutrone View Post
    Yes and you'd be correct, both would require time. But that's not the point I'm making. One type of farming is ethical the other isn't.
    I dont think we should be discussing ethics in an online video game. All things are allowed as long as they don't break ToS...we are hidden behind a wall of anonymity.

    People wanna help bump their guild rank in some ways, and PvP KDR plays a big role in affecting them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avta View Post
    I dont think we should be discussing ethics in an online video game. All things are allowed as long as they don't break ToS...we are hidden behind a wall of anonymity.

    People wanna help bump their guild rank in some ways, and PvP KDR plays a big role in affecting them.

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    Except I'm an image above us Remiem says it's cheating and is bannable....

    Listen mate, if you want to boost your guild I'm not stopping you. Just don't come crying to forums if you catch a ban for over doing it. I'm just trying to argue my initial point but you keep derailing the discussion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avta View Post
    I dont think we should be discussing ethics in an online video game. All things are allowed as long as they don't break ToS...we are hidden behind a wall of anonymity.

    People wanna help bump their guild rank in some ways, and PvP KDR plays a big role in affecting them.

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    I wouldnt have a problem with dummy killing to 10k for aps/title. But its become far too abusive for some people. I mean, 0pve kills( aka xp chest leveled up account aka not old) and this many pvp kills? And 44k deaths just prove more trade killing lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZZTop View Post
    I wouldnt have a problem with dummy killing to 10k for aps/title. But its become far too abusive for some people. I mean, 0pve kills( aka xp chest leveled up account aka not old) and this many pvp kills? And 44k deaths just prove more trade killing lol.

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    U have a point, but he's helping his guild by farming PvP kills, or doing it for fun...

    I see it as the same way as someone who would farm 5m PvE kills for fun or to help his guild, or to flex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZZTop View Post
    I wouldnt have a problem with dummy killing to 10k for aps/title. But its become far too abusive for some people. I mean, 0pve kills( aka xp chest leveled up account aka not old) and this many pvp kills? And 44k deaths just prove more trade killing lol.

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    You know that when you disable xp gain neither pve kills are counting. Means you can kill 10b mobs and still have a score of 0 pve kills. Do the daily’s allow xp gain turn In dailys and then re disable xp gain…


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    Quote Originally Posted by Oawaoebi View Post
    You know that when you disable xp gain neither pve kills are counting. Means you can kill 10b mobs and still have a score of 0 pve kills. Do the daily’s allow xp gain turn In dailys and then re disable xp gain…


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    Even then, nobody did this back in the day, my point was that this lv 27 wasnt an og player from the old caps to justify that many pvp kills.Its clearly a new one that dummy/trade killed his way to 113k kills, which is clearly abusive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZZTop View Post
    Even then, nobody did this back in the day, my point was that this lv 27 wasnt an og player from the old caps to justify that many pvp kills.Its clearly a new one that dummy/trade killed his way to 113k kills, which is clearly abusive.

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    What do you want against it? Even in a real fight you can do "dummy farming". Lets take for this an example from real life. You go watch a box fight and bet on blue side 10k. Red wins and you make 10k+ euros. All fine right? So but who was in blue side? It was your friend and you 2 agreed on betting on red team and that your friend loses. You go pvp and your friend is in opponent team playing not on his limits. What I want to say is even if you remove the dummy insta kill ability there are still plenty of ways to make it easier to farm pvp kills. Removing pvp kills also isn't that good of an idea. Flags was good choice to remove bc it now requires 10 players instead of 2 to open the map. Doing certain aps have to take time. Most players here are just lazy and want the easiest way to the top doing the minimum. Its not rewarding when everybody can do max aps in 2 weeks of work. Getting on top of lb should require months/years of hard work. Play the game make gold friends buy better gear go pvp get those kills and do the aps the hard good old way. If pvp aps are getting removed we also could just remove 1k elite boss kills with the reason not everybody has the time gear to farm them. It takes so much time for new players to get on lb. Bullsh*t, I am a player who created his first account on an iPad back in 2013 and it tooked a couple of weeks/months to reach the cap to lvl 36. Now I can reach lvl 81 in 1.5h without buying experience pack. (7day elixir, ads, combo and xp pet enough with story line) Now everything has to be instant and most easily. If you need 10 mins to kill a boss everybody complains on forum. Back the days we played hours in planar tombs 1 for example and weren't able to kill the boss and guess what nobody complained. We said never mind see you tomorrow we will try again. Getting gold is easy asf. People just merch 90% of actual price and call it skill merching. For example my earlier example 2 friends decide on buying 30% of all auras of one type. They know many player like it and will want it. 60 % won't sell the aura bc they fell in love so you can just log off come back after 5 days and call it inflation that your aura raised 300% in price. We know all which auras are getting merched rn. But what do I wanted to say is that just because it requires a lot of time hard work and skill to get what you want its not the right way to go on forum and ask to remove a certain of aps because they are too hard to do. Everybody who wants to get to the top will have to do those aps means the pvp maps will be full of players who try to achieve their goals and try to do some pvp kills, for example seasonal farmers. My message is get your asses up and start farming the hard way to get what you want instead of complaining like nobody passes the doctor exam without hard work.

    Ty for your attention arlorians! Gl farming


    Sorry that my argumentation went to overall discussion and wasn't that much based on your reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oawaoebi View Post
    What do you want against it? Even in a real fight you can do "dummy farming". Lets take for this an example from real life. You go watch a box fight and bet on blue side 10k. Red wins and you make 10k+ euros. All fine right? So but who was in blue side? It was your friend and you 2 agreed on betting on red team and that your friend loses. You go pvp and your friend is in opponent team playing not on his limits. What I want to say is even if you remove the dummy insta kill ability there are still plenty of ways to make it easier to farm pvp kills. Removing pvp kills also isn't that good of an idea. Flags was good choice to remove bc it now requires 10 players instead of 2 to open the map. Doing certain aps have to take time. Most players here are just lazy and want the easiest way to the top doing the minimum. Its not rewarding when everybody can do max aps in 2 weeks of work. Getting on top of lb should require months/years of hard work. Play the game make gold friends buy better gear go pvp get those kills and do the aps the hard good old way. If pvp aps are getting removed we also could just remove 1k elite boss kills with the reason not everybody has the time gear to farm them. It takes so much time for new players to get on lb. Bullsh*t, I am a player who created his first account on an iPad back in 2013 and it tooked a couple of weeks/months to reach the cap to lvl 36. Now I can reach lvl 81 in 1.5h without buying experience pack. (7day elixir, ads, combo and xp pet enough with story line) Now everything has to be instant and most easily. If you need 10 mins to kill a boss everybody complains on forum. Back the days we played hours in planar tombs 1 for example and weren't able to kill the boss and guess what nobody complained. We said never mind see you tomorrow we will try again. Getting gold is easy asf. People just merch 90% of actual price and call it skill merching. For example my earlier example 2 friends decide on buying 30% of all auras of one type. They know many player like it and will want it. 60 % won't sell the aura bc they fell in love so you can just log off come back after 5 days and call it inflation that your aura raised 300% in price. We know all which auras are getting merched rn. But what do I wanted to say is that just because it requires a lot of time hard work and skill to get what you want its not the right way to go on forum and ask to remove a certain of aps because they are too hard to do. Everybody who wants to get to the top will have to do those aps means the pvp maps will be full of players who try to achieve their goals and try to do some pvp kills, for example seasonal farmers. My message is get your asses up and start farming the hard way to get what you want instead of complaining like nobody passes the doctor exam without hard work.

    Ty for your attention arlorians! Gl farming


    Sorry that my argumentation went to overall discussion and wasn't that much based on your reply.
    You literally described a fixed fight which is punishable by jail. Im against it because its not the way the game is supposed to be played. How is it any different from botting pve kills in elite maps for aps?

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