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    Quote Originally Posted by iRandom View Post
    Are you sure?
    I'm pretty sure the first name for "Frozen" was The Frozen Queen.
    Srsly

    Good relative/friend
    Parents die.
    Main Character leaves.
    Sings a song.
    Comes back.
    Good relative/friend not rlly good.

    Which movie did i just describe?
    Close, it was planned to be named "The Snow Queen", the exact title of Andersen's book. Elsa was also supposed to be evil, she wasn't supposed to be Anna's sister and Elsa was supposed to wear a cape made of white rats that would crawl up on her back whenever she spread her arms and grossly move all the time. Obviously they didn't take that route.

    You don't even realize how silly you are with your statements. Of course they are similar. They contain all parts of "The Heroes Journey". But you wouldn't know anything about that now, would you? Here's a link. Read the whole thing, then think about how many movies/games/stories this story pattern can be applied to. Did you get your answer? Yes? Good, now you know how silly you and your "here are 10 reasons why Frozen and Lion King are the same movie #OMG #post-that-on-all-social-media #much-good-article #written-by-a-professional-wow" article are. Please do your research before making such statements.

    So we established there are tons of movies with the same story pattern, but does that make them the same movies? Of course not.

    And Frozen is better for many reasons when comparing it to Lion King.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LEVEL ONE View Post
    Close, it was planned to be named "The Snow Queen", the exact title of Andersen's book. Elsa was also supposed to be evil, she wasn't supposed to be Anna's sister and Elsa was supposed to wear a cape made of white rats that would crawl up on her back whenever she spread her arms and grossly move all the time. Obviously they didn't take that route.

    You don't even realize how silly you are with your statements. Of course they are similar. They contain all parts of "The Heroes Journey". But you wouldn't know anything about that now, would you? Here's a link. Read the whole thing, then think about how many movies/games/stories this story pattern can be applied to. Did you get your answer? Yes? Good, now you know how silly you and your "here are 10 reasons why Frozen and Lion King are the same movie #OMG #post-that-on-all-social-media #much-good-article #written-by-a-professional-wow" article are. Please do your research before making such statements.

    So we established there are tons of movies with the same story pattern, but does that make them the same movies? Of course not.

    And Frozen is better for many reasons when comparing it to Lion King.
    First without going to your silly link, i know that
    A. The Hero's Journey "first" started from odyseseus. If they made that into a movie. id watch it
    B. LotR and the Hobbit revolves around that theory without the cute singing and animation
    C. Frozen and Lion King both animation with singing. Parents die. Sings a catchy song. Yes it does revolve around THJ but not as much as they revolve around each other.
    since disney ripped themselves off no one will complain.
    D. Frozen is liked more for many reasons and one of those reasons is the cold fact(no pun intended) that disney FINALLY made a good movie AFTER 10 years
    E. Disney's good movie formation is this.
    Relative dies.
    Main character leaves.
    Main character sings a song.
    Main character goes back to save whatever.
    Main character defeats "bad guy" with help.
    Happy ending.

    Now introduce a theme, lovable characters, catchy tunes and lyrics, lots of script, and put it into animation bc real actors are more expensive.
    Ta-da. A Lovable Movie
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    Quote Originally Posted by iRandom View Post
    First without going to your silly link, i know that
    A. The Hero's Journey "first" started from odyseseus. If they made that into a movie. id watch it
    B. LotR and the Hobbit revolves around that theory without the cute singing and animation
    C. Frozen and Lion King both animation with singing. Parents die. Sings a catchy song. Yes it does revolve around THJ but not as much as they revolve around each other.
    since disney ripped themselves off no one will complain.
    D. Frozen is liked more for many reasons and one of those reasons is the cold fact(no pun intended) that disney FINALLY made a good movie AFTER 10 years
    E. Disney's good movie formation is this.
    Relative dies.
    Main character leaves.
    Main character sings a song.
    Main character goes back to save whatever.
    Main character defeats "bad guy" with help.
    Happy ending.
    Wait, wait, wait. So what makes movies similar is not the similar story, but rather the fact that they are animated and that they include singing? Or are you saying that Frozen is similar to LotR, but just a bit more similar to The Lion King? No, wait, no... Im using the wrong word. You didnt say "similar" you said "same". So, is Lion King in fact similar to LotR? Well, it pretty much hits all your points on that list on how to determine whether two movies are the same, so yes. Is it the same movie? Well, according to you, if it was animated it would be.

    Quote Originally Posted by iRandom View Post
    Now introduce a theme, lovable characters, catchy tunes and lyrics, lots of script, /.../ Ta-da. A Lovable Movie
    Man, I had no idea making movies is so easy! Thank you for this useful guide!

    Quote Originally Posted by iRandom View Post
    and put it into animation bc real actors are more expensive.
    This guy just oozes with knowledge, listen to him people and learn!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LEVEL ONE View Post
    Wait, wait, wait. So what makes movies similar is not the similar story, but rather the fact that they are animated and that they include singing? Or are you saying that Frozen is similar to LotR, but just a bit more similar to The Lion King? No, wait, no... Im using the wrong word. You didnt say "similar" you said "same". So, is Lion King in fact similar to LotR? Well, it pretty much hits all your points on that list on how to determine whether two movies are the same, so yes. Is it the same movie? Well, according to you, if it was animated it would be.
    LoL! Similar story but disney is just ripping themselves. its rlly after the love in these movies that makes them so different from other THJ stories.
    Nope LotR is just based off THJ. doesnt make the cut for an Original Disney story!
    If u didnt understand my point about Disney THJ Movies then clearly u think too much
    any imbecile that uses more than 2% of their brain could understand
    Quote Originally Posted by LEVEL ONE View Post
    This guy just oozes with knowledge
    Mixing hate, sarcasm, and ignorance through virtual words is contradictory.

    so u somehow know my gender?
    Stalk much?
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    Quote Originally Posted by iRandom View Post
    Mixing hate, sarcasm, and ignorance through virtual words is contradictory.
    I do not think that I am ignorant. I try to do as much research as I can before going into an argument. I was not hating on anything. I indeed used sarcasm but how else am I supposed to reply to this:
    Quote Originally Posted by iRandom View Post
    Now introduce a theme, lovable characters, catchy tunes and lyrics, lots of script, and put it into animation bc real actors are more expensive.
    Ta-da. A Lovable Movie
    Quote Originally Posted by iRandom View Post
    Sibling rivalry for kingship is classic yes but ur missing the point where Disney is ripping itself off to get rich
    Oh, so now you are calling Frozen a Lion King rip-off? Yea, that's it. I'm out. Do you really think Disney would spend thousands of hours and millions of dollars on - nope, I said I'm out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LEVEL ONE View Post
    I do not think that I am ignorant. I try to do as much research as I can before going into an argument. I was not hating on anything. I indeed used sarcasm but how else am I supposed to reply to this:
    Im watching Frozen and the Lion king right now lol
    im at the part where they sing let it go and hakunamata
    and maybe u werent supposed to reply
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    Quote Originally Posted by LEVEL ONE View Post
    Oh, so now you are calling Frozen a Lion King rip-off? Yea, that's it. I'm out. Do you really think Disney would spend thousands of hours and millions of dollars on - nope, I said I'm out.
    Not a Lion King rip-off but a Wicked version!
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