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    Default Devs: How to Dilute Scamming on Trades Over 10 mill.

    It's obvious that there are many scammers in the community. It's almost a monthly event that someone is scammed out of 30 mill trying to buy a precious 71 elite, etc.. I've discovered a simple (god forbid excessive amounts of coding) and easy way to cut scams in half WITHOUT altering the gold cap!

    But first, Here is a video of the hassle and nervous trust required to purchase an Elite Marlin Sword. (Not everyone is as lucky as I am to find a decent seller. He could have just as easily been a scammer. You will notice many opportunities for scam during the video. The original, uncut video was 20 minutes long.) Enjoy.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk2ZsMG4znw

    So back to the post.

    The Ore

    My idea is to significantly reduce the risk in purchasing/selling items that are worth more than the gold cap of 10 mill, as well as save a great amount of time and effort in the process. I believe of a material called an ore. However, this material is not used for crafting. They are an addition to the store. (The icon would be similar to this and the tab would be called Ores)


    What is an ore?

    Ores will be used to make large trades without the hassle of a middle man or fifty twinks. Each ore will be purchasable for gold and will liquidate for near their purchase price. They are tradeable, stashable, etc. You will now be able to store your gold as ores and keep them either on char or in your stash. None of this 50twink/transfer gold buisness.

    The Silver Ore

    The silver ore will be worth the least, however still useful in trades from 11 mill to 20 mill.

    Purchase price: 2,505,000 OR 2,500,000+3 plat
    Liquidation price: 2,500,000

    The Gold Ore

    The gold ore will be worth more than the silver ore, and are useful in trades from 15 mill to 30 mill.

    Purchase price: 5,010,000 OR 5,000,000+5 plat
    Liquidation price: 5,000,000

    DIAMOND ORE

    The diamond ore is the most precious type of ore and can be used for great trades of 17.5 mill to 40 mill!

    Purchase price: 7,515,000 OR 7,500,000+7 plat
    Liquidation price: 7,500,000

    If you like my ideas be sure to give me a "thank" so it gets noticed! Tell me what you think too. Together we can protect ourselves from scam.

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    Nice
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    Default Devs: How to Dilute Scamming on Trades Over 10 mill.

    (Check out my recent ems purchase and video there is a surprise at the end)

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    .wut
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    amazing idea

    someone should hire this man

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    I like it.

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    Or the devs could increase the gold cap or make it unlimited.

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    Good Job, really, a fantastic idea to cut down scams. I wish this was implemented.

    Proud Officer of All Hail.
    Hi, I play PL, hopefully to be active here. Make every moment last, don't waste it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkbby View Post
    Good Job, really, a fantastic idea to cut down scams. I wish this was implemented.

    Proud Officer of All Hail.
    Watch the video ending lol


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    Default Devs: How to Dilute Scamming on Trades Over 10 mill.

    Good to know I can trust you
    And wow u just have 3.5bill laying around .-.

    The most I gotten at once is 6m

    I wish I merched that hard
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    Nice guide there.

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    I like this idea a lot, but I think it needs to be scaled up exponentially to accommodate all future trading needs. How about this:
    Silver Ore = 1 Gold Cap
    Gold Ore = 4 Gold Caps (purchased with 4 Silver Ores)
    Diamond Ore = 16 Gold Caps (purchased with 4 Gold Ores)
    Neutron Star Ore = 64 Gold Caps
    (Purchased with 4 Diamond Ores)

    Converting either up or down could cost a plat or gold fee as you stated in your plan, such as trading 1 Diamond Ore back to 4 Gold Ores, for example.

    I suggested the multiplier of 4 to reflect how many items fit in the trade window. With this plan, a player could put up to 257 Gold Caps in the trade window (that would be max gold + 4 Neutron Star Ores).

    Of course, this plan could be scaled up to the next tier if players begin requiring trades of up to 10 billion (ish) gold, 40 billion (ish) gold, or 160 billion (ish) gold, etc, etc...

    And.... Then someone really could rule the world Muahahahahaha

    Edit: why do I feel like eating cookies and milk after writing that?
    Last edited by Charmstrange; 08-19-2014 at 02:31 AM. Reason: Cookies and milk

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiie View Post
    I like this idea a lot, but I think it needs to be scaled up exponentially to accommodate all future trading needs. How about this:
    Silver Ore = 1 Gold Cap
    Gold Ore = 4 Gold Caps (purchased with 4 Silver Ores)
    Diamond Ore = 16 Gold Caps (purchased with 4 Gold Ores)
    Neutron Star Ore = 64 Gold Caps
    (Purchased with 4 Diamond Ores)

    Converting either up or down could cost a plat or gold fee as you stated in your plan, such as trading 1 Diamond Ore back to 4 Gold Ores, for example.

    I suggested the multiplier of 4 to reflect how many items fit in the trade window. With this plan, a player could put up to 257 Gold Caps (that would be max gold + 4 Neutron Star Ores).

    And.... Then someone really could rule the world hahahahaha
    So you want it to be worth 640,000,000? K. Gf when you accidently liquidate


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    Quote Originally Posted by ign Boss View Post
    So you want it to be worth 640,000,000? K. Gf when you accidently liquidate


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    The point I was making is that if you don't have exponential scaling, you can't really break out of the limitations of the current gold cap/trade window configuration. You might as well just trade 4 night starrys (or something of comparable value) instead of 4 ores that are worth 6-7 mil each.

    And... If you think 640,000,000 is crazy, check out my edit
    Last edited by Charmstrange; 08-19-2014 at 02:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chiie View Post
    The point I was making is that if you don't have exponential scaling, you can't really break out of the limitations of the current gold cap/trade window configuration. You might as well just trade 4 night starrys (or something of comparable value) instead of 4 ores that are worth 6-7 mil each.
    It's not the same at all though


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    I hate that when you have to click the confirm about 3 times til it goes yellow and accepts and good idea their would be literally no scams this way at all

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    Ok it's not the same, I was just expanding on your idea in a way that would accommodate any size of trading needs. Players already require safe trades of amounts greater than 40 million. I wasn't trying to criticize you.

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    Default Devs: How to Dilute Scamming on Trades Over 10 mill.

    nice guide
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    You don't have to worry anout accidentally liquidating because if you do you'll either get your gold back or it wouldn't let you because it would be over the gold cap!*


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