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    Soloing maus is extremely easy. Just remember in 61 cap there was only legendary gears and 5000 point kits didn't exist from red eggs. Back then easter wasn't even an energy based event. Red eggs didn't have 5k points, you had to farm those points by killing stuff.

    The game is losing its difficulty like most other games in this day and age. I can compare pokemon and megaman from the mid 90's early 2000's to today and its a massive difficulty change. Back then games were incredibly difficult. Today its tap tap yay I won.
    Games are also losing their graphics, yeah they look more realistic but the keyword is "look" back then they might of not looked as realistic, but they are way more interactable than today's games. Watch this video and you will see what I mean.
    Its a 5minute video that explains all. Left 4 dead 2009. Back 4 blood 2021. https://youtu.be/oT4l_4DzNLQ
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    Quote Originally Posted by Encryptions View Post
    Soloing maus is extremely easy. Just remember in 61 cap there was only legendary gears and 5000 point kits didn't exist from red eggs. Back then easter wasn't even an energy based event. Red eggs didn't have 5k points, you had to farm those points by killing stuff.

    The game is losing its difficulty like most other games in this day and age. I can compare pokemon and megaman from the mid 90's early 2000's to today and its a massive difficulty change. Back then games were incredibly difficult. Today its tap tap yay I won.
    Maus scales to current cap, and there were more people running it back then.

    I just don't understand why does it have to take so much longer to get this APs done, and why do people wanna let it be that way?

    Why does no one say that Elite Forest is easy to do, it should also scale to endgame to make it frustrating for people to do APs?

    Point is, not many play that map, almost all seasonal skip 1k m6 bosses. There's no choice but to solo it, and it taking so long for APs doesn't make sense. There's not much content to play in m6 except for APs, and no one farms there for anything else.

    I spend 30 sec per boss on all maps, and it takes longer as I go up the expansion, but then a level 61 aps takes like 10-15min per boss doesn't make sense. Now imagine running it 1000 times.

    Yes, it may be easy with 81 Staff as a mage, but it still takes a LOT of time.

    You have to understand that it's hard finding a party to get this APs, so it should be made more bearable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avta View Post
    Maus scales to current cap, and there were more people running it back then.

    I just don't understand why does it have to take so much longer to get this APs done, and why do people wanna let it be that way?

    Why does no one say that Elite Forest is easy to do, it should also scale to endgame to make it frustrating for people to do APs?

    Point is, not many play that map, almost all seasonal skip 1k m6 bosses. There's no choice but to solo it, and it taking so long for APs doesn't make sense. There's not much content to play in m6 except for APs, and no one farms there for anything else.

    I spend 30 sec per boss on all maps, and it takes longer as I go up the expansion, but then a level 61 aps takes like 10-15min per boss doesn't make sense. Now imagine running it 1000 times.

    Yes, it may be easy with 81 Staff as a mage, but it still takes a LOT of time.

    You have to understand that it's hard finding a party to get this APs, so it should be made more bearable.

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    Sts has already stated why it scales; it is an ever-increasingly difficult encounter and should be this way. Make an exception for this one and let it go? APs vary in difficulty and completion time; they do not all have to be the same.

    If you're having trouble with Maus, try focusing on other APs. And if you want to max out, tell that to the 100 maxed out players who had a harder time doing them in the past, mouths shut.

    The rate at which players casually max APs these days just goes to show that the game couldn't get any easier than it is now, thanks to the era of damage procs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilove_Poopoo View Post
    Sts has already stated why it scales; it is an ever-increasingly difficult encounter and should be this way. Make an exception for this one and let it go? APs vary in difficulty and completion time; they do not all have to be the same.

    If you're having trouble with Maus, try focusing on other APs. And if you want to max out, tell that to the 100 maxed out players who had a harder time doing them in the past, mouths shut.

    The rate at which players casually max APs these days just goes to show that the game couldn't get any easier than it is now, thanks to the era of damage procs.

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    Majority of those players ran it when the maps were still active, right now it's inactive and needs to be soloed most of the time, that's where the problem comes in.

    As the game progresses, older maps get easy. If this map was still active for it loots, and had actually good loot, then it would make sense for it to scale to endgame because people actually wanna play there.

    I'd have no problem running there if I can always find people to run there, but most seasonals even skip this APs.

    For example if there was an APs to kill rahabkor 1k times, I'd have no problem running there with a party, but it would be problematic killing rahabkor 1k times solo. Do you see the point?

    30mins ago I asked in GC if anyone wanna do maus APs, response. 5 minutes later I asked to join in m5, no response again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avta View Post
    Majority of those players ran it when the maps were still active, right now it's inactive and needs to be soloed most of the time, that's where the problem comes in.

    As the game progresses, older maps get easy. If this map was still active for it loots, and had actually good loot, then it would make sense for it to scale to endgame because people actually wanna play there.

    I'd have no problem running there if I can always find people to run there, but most seasonals even skip this APs.

    For example if there was an APs to kill rahabkor 1k times, I'd have no problem running there with a party, but it would be problematic killing rahabkor 1k times solo. Do you see the point?

    30mins ago I asked in GC if anyone wanna do maus APs, response. 5 minutes later I asked to join in m5, no response again.

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    This is out of the question, seasonals usually skip m6 because it takes the most time, and instead focus on the quickest option to obtain the most APs possible within the time frame. That's just common sense given that they're competing for and hoping to secure a lb spot.

    Yes, Maus was active before, but it was still difficult even in a group, because they had no reflection nor damage procs and had to move in unison.

    In general, thanks to gear progression, the rate of completing APs is now the fastest it has ever been. You should stop nitpicking Maus because it retained its dIfFiCuLtY.







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    Quote Originally Posted by Avta View Post
    Majority of those players ran it when the maps were still active, right now it's inactive and needs to be soloed most of the time, that's where the problem comes in.

    As the game progresses, older maps get easy. If this map was still active for it loots, and had actually good loot, then it would make sense for it to scale to endgame because people actually wanna play there.

    I'd have no problem running there if I can always find people to run there, but most seasonals even skip this APs.

    For example if there was an APs to kill rahabkor 1k times, I'd have no problem running there with a party, but it would be problematic killing rahabkor 1k times solo. Do you see the point?

    30mins ago I asked in GC if anyone wanna do maus APs, response. 5 minutes later I asked to join in m5, no response again.

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    What about the people who completed the 1k maus aps on seasonal chars? There are quite a few i must say. I myself did around 700+ maus bosses(lich/vori)while i ran seasonal, and trust me it wasn't more active than it is now. You just have to take effort in finding people who run maus just like the effort you take in completing it.

    Pro tip: most of the top 10/class of seasonals most probably do atleast 100 lich/vori. Add them to your fl and go in 4 player pts. So if you can play as is, theoretically u can get around 800 lich/vori just by this.

    Also there are many players trying to get top player lb other than seasonals whose main focus is maus aps. Try to find em and maybe you could be over this in a month or two.

    Ps: maus is just as dead as expansion maps if you didnt notice and i dont agree with nerfng it cuz its a l61 map.

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    Quote Originally Posted by worshipped View Post
    What about the people who completed the 1k maus aps on seasonal chars? There are quite a few i must say. I myself did around 700+ maus bosses(lich/vori)while i ran seasonal, and trust me it wasn't more active than it is now. You just have to take effort in finding people who run maus just like the effort you take in completing it.

    Pro tip: most of the top 10/class of seasonals most probably do atleast 100 lich/vori. Add them to your fl and go in 4 player pts. So if you can play as is, theoretically u can get around 800 lich/vori just by this.

    Also there are many players trying to get top player lb other than seasonals whose main focus is maus aps. Try to find em and maybe you could be over this in a month or two.

    Ps: maus is just as dead as expansion maps if you didnt notice and i dont agree with nerfng it cuz its a l61 map.

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    Yeah, that's what I have been doing, got 30 so far this month, I believe I should be finished by the end of next year at this year /s

    It's ridiculous that people nowadays won't even join m5 when u ask in GC, maybe I am in the wrong guild for m6 aps. People generally join m6 tho, but no one wants to do the hardwork to clear to m6 XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avta View Post
    Yeah, that's what I have been doing, got 30 so far this month, I believe I should be finished by the end of next year at this year /s

    It's ridiculous that people nowadays won't even join m5 when u ask in GC, maybe I am in the wrong guild for m6 aps. People generally join m6 tho, but no one wants to do the hardwork to clear to m6 XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avta View Post
    Yeah, that's what I have been doing, got 30 so far this month, I believe I should be finished by the end of next year at this year /s

    It's ridiculous that people nowadays won't even join m5 when u ask in GC, maybe I am in the wrong guild for m6 aps. People generally join m6 tho, but no one wants to do the hardwork to clear to m6 XD

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    30 in a month? Gee maybe u should focus more Maus than making posts....u would have your 1k maus aps done hehe goodluck bro!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avta View Post
    Yeah, that's what I have been doing, got 30 so far this month, I believe I should be finished by the end of next year at this year /s

    It's ridiculous that people nowadays won't even join m5 when u ask in GC, maybe I am in the wrong guild for m6 aps. People generally join m6 tho, but no one wants to do the hardwork to clear to m6 XD

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    I did all the aps in one season (the heroic eggs were missing) and I did this bad aps when he arrived, today it's much easier, before I died more than 6k with pt and in the season 76 cap I did 1k la and don't die 2k I maintained more mental health in this chapter 76 than in chapter 61 at the time.
    curious case, there were 800 bosses in 20 days. maybe it's a matter of wanting, focus

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