Time to make things fair again

[djironlung]

As of recent certain guilds started spot blocking in PvP against magnum. these two guilds know who they are. I've been recently asked to help co run magnum so here is what we have come up with. We originally didn't start this form of spot blocking in PvP but our mistake was to answer back by doing the same. This response of acting the same made us no better than the original perpetrators. this has escalated and PvP at endgame has become like twink. everyone is now spot blocking and blaming the others. We at magnum didn't start this childlike behavior however we did participate and now we are going to change this. We will no longer be participating in this behavior and have made it official rule that it won't be tolerated in our guild. when we find people behaving in this childlike way we will just ignore the behavior, if they are in our guild they will be dealt with accordingly. If these other guids that want to point blame for what they started want to act right they will follow suit. I don't expect those other guilds to follow suit cause I'm not sure if the people running them are mature enough to act responsibly however now that I'm in a co master role of magnum we will be acting this way. let's see if maturity can return to PvP and all can play fair without spot blocking once again or are these other guilds too afraid to fight fair.( I believe the latter is true since they started this behavior to begin with). so henceforth magnum will not be participating in games with spot blocking cause we are mature enough to man up and play right let's see how many follow suit.

[Zeus]

Hey Iron,

First off, we can play the he start/she started games. Truthfully, both guilds are going to have their opinions on that. I have my own, but I am not going to go into them.

Secondly, I appreciate the initiative and I will talk to other officers of Resilience to see if they are interested in the same initiative of fair gameplay. However, I am sure that we would have to SEE some change before actually changing the rules as well. I'm not saying that y'all aren't trying, but I've still heard reports. From now on, I will document them and bring them to you. Again, in the meantime, I'll talk to our guild and see what our view on this is.

[djironlung]

that's a start in the right direction it's not about blame it's about being able to have fun again and fair play.

[barzagli]

Maybe you can use this Zeus:

NEW GUILD RULE!

STOP THE BLOCKING OR YOU'LL BE KICK

SEND CHALLENGE TO THE RESPECTED GUILD FOR FAIR PVP

[Instanthumor]

Keep in mind that you are speaking primarily for yourself and a handful of other people in your guild. If you tell your guild, they'd all probably agree, but the next minute they go in PvP, they'd do the exact opposite of what you asked for. As Zeus mentioned up above, we would like to see the change. I'm sure this kind of thread has been here before, but having 5/300 following a rule doesn't really show much.

[barzagli]

Keep in mind that you are speaking primarily for yourself and a handful of other people in your guild. If you tell your guild, they'd all probably agree, but the next minute they go in PvP, they'd do the exact opposite of what you asked for. As Zeus mentioned up above, we would like to see the change. I'm sure this kind of thread has been here before, but having 5/300 following a rule doesn't really show much.

We're not speaking for ourselves, its trying to stop this blocking games before it goes on and on. As Iron said "it's about being big enough to follow". At least won't you try it or not.

[Instanthumor]

We're not speaking for ourselves, its trying to stop this blocking games before it goes on and on. As Iron said "it's about being big enough to follow". At least won't you try it or not.

Barz, you of all people should know that I do not block or attempt any malicious kinds of acts in PvP.. What I mean by speaking for yourselves, is that it does not matter if only you, Iron, or a few other of your guildies stop spot blocking. If the other 90% majority of you still continue to do it (undercover, whatever), and along with your allied guilds (MMPH, Republika), no change isn't going to happen. I appreciate that a couple of you guys are advocating for fair play in PvP, but without the majority's consent, it's close to meaningless, unless you participate in every clash (since you're a fair guy).

[barzagli]

Barz, you of all people should know that I do not block or attempt any malicious kinds of acts in PvP.. What I mean by speaking for yourselves, is that it does not matter if only you, Iron, or a few other of your guildies stop spot blocking. If the other 90% majority of you still continue to do it (undercover, whatever), and along with your allied guilds (MMPH, Republika), no change isn't going to happen. I appreciate that a couple of you guys are advocating for fair play in PvP, but without the majority's consent, it's close to meaningless, unless you participate in every clash (since you're a fair guy).

Believe me bro this is harder to implement even internally, as zeus mentioned regarding mrxnice before, we're just implement this in our guild. So it takes time for our member to get the announcement. Its not that we backed out in a fight, but let's just start pvp like it used to be 5vs5 no blocks. Fairness for fun. We really need all the guild supports in pvp to implement these. Otherwise it will go on forever. Also Iron and the gm in Magnum got time limit for a week to try this, otherwise we play as now and back to square one. Need our ally and your supports as well, as player and as a guild. Some other non pvp said that they can't pvp atm. Need to give this a shot.


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[djironlung]

it's about being big enough to follow suit I am in full authority to start booting people I don't believe in playing cheaply and I won't tolerate the action.

[Prioritize]

Fairness might find its way back to Arlor at last.
On a more serious note, I think we here at Resilience are in total favor of ending the shenanigans in pvp, and spot blocking is a great place to start. As Zeus said, we would have to see legitimate change in game before ending the spot blocking that we recently began in the past few days. The purpose of said blocking was to level the playing field; but if the playing field will be leveled without the need for us to block, then I see no reason for us to continue to block.

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[dantus]

Why is this type of thing even brought to forums in general? The way I see it is generally parties that have legitimate feelings such as the sentiment if the original poster wouldn't post a thread like this. It basically invites trolling amd attempts to declare innocence to the community not involved. If really fair games were the motivation for this thread it would have been done in pm, in game. That is my opinion. Hopefully I am proven wrong.

[Solid]

Future:

Magnum stops blocking for a while.

EoS+Pride continue to block, *time passes* EoS+Pride still continue to block,

Magnum retalitates and blocks- EoS and Pride post block screenies to this thread,

Moral: If we started this 'blocking' nonsense, then yes it would be our responsibility to fix and clean this up. But we did not start this, they did and unless THEY change our efforts to change will just be in vain....

[Prioritize]

Future:

Magnum stops blocking for a while.

EoS+Pride continue to block, *time passes* EoS+Pride still continue to block,

Magnum retalitates and blocks- EoS and Pride post block screenies to this thread,

Moral: If we started this 'blocking' nonsense, then yes it would be our responsibility to fix and clean this up. But we did not start this, they did and unless THEY change our efforts to change will just be in vain....

I can see this thread going downhill already.

I find it quite funny that you failed to acknowledge our numerous threads about ending the blocking in pvp when we were the ones being blocked. But now when your guild posts this thread speaking against the blocking of spots in pvp, which was most likely prompted by the complete dominance of Eos and Resilience this past weekend, we are man enough to agree with you that this needs to end. All I can say is listen to your guildmates and don't point fingers. We all know who began the pvp shenanigans.

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[Solid]

I can see this thread going downhill already.

I find it quite funny that you failed to acknowledge our numerous threads about ending the blocking in pvp when we were the ones being blocked. But now when your guild posts this thread speaking against the blocking of spots in pvp, which was most likely prompted by the complete dominance of Eos and Resilience this past weekend, we are man enough to agree with you that this needs to end. All I can say is listen to your guildmates and don't point fingers. We all know who began the pvp shenanigans.

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Dominance?

XD
Please.

[Deadroth]

Future:

Magnum stops blocking for a while.

EoS+Pride continue to block, *time passes* EoS+Pride still continue to block,

Magnum retalitates and blocks- EoS and Pride post block screenies to this thread,

Moral: If we started this 'blocking' nonsense, then yes it would be our responsibility to fix and clean this up. But we did not start this, they did and unless THEY change our efforts to change will just be in vain....

You don't know future.

[Solid]

You don't know future.

History quite often repeats itself, and you literally have no room to talk

Come PvP, not make PvP pictures/art.

[Solid]

Pretty sure his art will help him in real life where is pvp gonna help u? Lolly and I replied to the kid gg me

I'm doing just fine IRL bae, and MMORG art will make you money anywere erwhere. Nufsaid

[Alhuntrazeck]

Future:

Magnum stops blocking for a while.

EoS+Pride continue to block, *time passes* EoS+Pride still continue to block,

Magnum retalitates and blocks- EoS and Pride post block screenies to this thread,

Moral: If we started this 'blocking' nonsense, then yes it would be our responsibility to fix and clean this up. But we did not start this, they did and unless THEY change our efforts to change will just be in vain....

I think this post undoes everything Ironlung is aiming for. What's the point if your own guildmate wants this kind of stuff?

[djironlung]

I think this post undoes everything Ironlung is aiming for. What's the point if your own guildmate wants this kind of stuff?

I truly appreciate this post beyond words the point is to change things and not focus on who what where when but instead how to change and what we can do

[Slovek]

Well if you look at the replies they were all going ok until that kid posted ......

cant u see why u say u get insulted and harassed? simple mean words like that may be the cause... i think u need to check what you have to say in order that others wontt pick on you -.-