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[icantgetkills]

I'm not sure that PvP should give any abilities other than money - it may turn people away from the game entirely. People should not be forced to PvP if they don't want to and should not be penalized in any way in PvE. Otherwise, if there are abilities from PvP, they should be made available in PvE.

As for staking, I'm not sure that encouraging gambling is a good idea for the game, especially considering that there are quite a few younger players here.

i dont think abilities should be implemented but staking is in everygame.. 12 year olds play rs and wow but it still has staking and i think the alien oasis townie should have staking

[Kossi]

As for staking, I'm not sure that encouraging gambling is a good idea for the game, especially considering that there are quite a few younger players here.

a ton of mmo's have it, even runescape which is filled with young players.
gambling really isnt a problem imo

[noobmigo]

i dont think abilities should be implemented but staking is in everygame.. 12 year olds play rs and wow but it still has staking and i think the alien oasis townie should have staking

IK! srsly we need staking. Official staking.

[Physiologic]

PvP is flawed in so many ways, it shouldn't foster any rewards whatsoever, especially when certain classes have clear-cut advantages over other classes. GCD is but only the first step in "fixing" PvP, and even so, classes will still be very unbalanced. In addition, staking aka gambling in PvP is a definitive no.

Just because other MMOs feature certain things doesn't make it right.

[Kossi]

I'm not sure that PvP should give any abilities other than money - it may turn people away from the game entirely. People should not be forced to PvP if they don't want to and should not be penalized in any way in PvE. Otherwise, if there are abilities from PvP, they should be made available in PvE.

As for staking, I'm not sure that encouraging gambling is a good idea for the game, especially considering that there are quite a few younger players here.

took out pve perks.

[noobmigo]

PvP is flawed in so many ways, it shouldn't foster any rewards whatsoever, especially when certain classes have clear-cut advantages over other classes. GCD is but only the first step in "fixing" PvP, and even so, classes will still be very unbalanced. In addition, staking aka gambling in PvP is a definitive no.

Come ON phys, don't wreck the staking.

[Kossi]

PvP is flawed in so many ways, it shouldn't foster any rewards whatsoever, especially when certain classes have clear-cut advantages over other classes. GCD is but only the first step in "fixing" PvP, and even so, classes will still be very unbalanced. In addition, staking aka gambling in PvP is a definitive no.

ill make it so you can only stake against your own class

[noobmigo]

ill make it so you can only stake against your own class

Nah, it's ok, don't change it.

EDIT: Why? Because you do NOT have to stake against other classes unwillingly. It is your decision to stake against other classses. If you feel it is unbalanced, then don't stake. Easy as that.

[hawkei]

I think the only people won't complain about pvp Is if there were no skills. Like runescape, back and forth back and forth, eat food, back and forth

[Acyer]

Agree 100% on all the mentioned additions guilds being top priority,but imho until B* is released I wouldn't look for any big changes to pl. I hope the devs add guilds soon cause The pug groups are getting bad.

[Kossi]

Nah, it's ok, don't change it.

no, he's right, class vs class staking is a must

[Physiologic]

ill make it so you can only stake against your own class

I'm not even arguing for or against staking...I'm just saying the devs said no to gambling, and staking IS gambling

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling#Staking_systems

[hawkei]

ill make it so you can only stake against your own class

It would be the players choice if a Mage wants to fight a bird

[noobmigo]

no, he's right, class vs class staking is a must

I edited it. You quoted too fast bud.

[Kossi]

I'm not even arguing for or against staking...I'm just saying the devs said no to gambling, and staking IS gambling

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling#Staking_systems

what about PvP?
pvp is gambling in all mmo's (excapt a few)
you risk your armour and gear..

[aluxuryhoggy]

PvP is flawed in so many ways, it shouldn't foster any rewards whatsoever, especially when certain classes have clear-cut advantages over other classes. GCD is but only the first step in "fixing" PvP, and even so, classes will still be very unbalanced. In addition, staking aka gambling in PvP is a definitive no.

Just because other MMOs feature certain things doesn't make it right.

I agree with you, even tho I don't Pvp much ( because its to messed up) I'm always hearing people complaining about how they are awful just because they're a bear or something, I hope there working on a way to fix this. :/
-alux

[icantgetkills]

what about PvP?
pvp is gambling in all mmo's (excapt a few)
you risk your armour and gear..

agreed i dont no an mmo that pvp/staking isnt in it.. staking and pvp brings hype and people want to play it eg play plat for the ctf maps etc... my 20 plat went to waste :/

but staking anything class should be aloud its your choice! if i want my bear to vs a bird then i will do it... its not like your forced to vs overpowered classes

[Physiologic]

what about PvP?
pvp is gambling in all mmo's (excapt a few)
you risk your armour and gear..

That's why the devs chose not to go through the paths of staking items in PL, because it is first a form of gambling, and secondly it is highly likely there will be more birds winning stakes than any other class. Inherent design flaws to the PvP system gives one class almost all the odds of winning. And yes, your suggestion would fix that (bird vs bird only match for stakes) but that's still a gambling issue.

The only instance in which I've seen "gambling" in PL so far is the Platinum item packs that had a mix of purple/pink items and they did fix it to only pink items for one patch, when they realized that mixed-color Platinum item packs were a form of "gambling."

[Kossi]

That's why the devs chose not to go through the paths of staking items in PL, because it is first a form of gambling, and secondly it is highly likely there will be more birds winning stakes than any other class. Inherent design flaws to the PvP system gives one class almost all the odds of winning.

i made it so its only class vs class
also, its pixels, not real money

[noobmigo]

That's why the devs chose not to go through the paths of staking items in PL, because it is first a form of gambling, and secondly it is highly likely there will be more birds winning stakes than any other class. Inherent design flaws to the PvP system gives one class almost all the odds of winning.

Dude, Phys, there's this thing called decisions. It could be only Archers using the system, and they'd be winning Archer items than. If a mage wants to fight an Archer, then he can, it's HIS decision.

P.S. Thank me later, Kossi. Your thread has been included into my PvP Helper Link Guides.