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    the devs MUST SEE THIS rate it 5 stars! everyone
    and the pvp cool downs instantly coming back i dont like at all only thing sorry they should run use team work and they would have to find a way to not boosst pvp rewards how? make pvp games so people cant boost randoms wont want to boost well i wont ill want to dominate the other team and it should just go on kills as some classes get less kills i.e bear and in ctf getting caps should give the same PvP points as 5 kills
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    I'm not sure that PvP should give any abilities other than money - it may turn people away from the game entirely. People should not be forced to PvP if they don't want to and should not be penalized in any way in PvE. Otherwise, if there are abilities from PvP, they should be made available in PvE.

    As for staking, I'm not sure that encouraging gambling is a good idea for the game, especially considering that there are quite a few younger players here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhoIsThis View Post
    I'm not sure that PvP should give any abilities other than money - it may turn people away from the game entirely. People should not be forced to PvP if they don't want to and should not be penalized in any way in PvE. Otherwise, if there are abilities from PvP, they should be made available in PvE.

    As for staking, I'm not sure that encouraging gambling is a good idea for the game, especially considering that there are quite a few younger players here.
    i dont think abilities should be implemented but staking is in everygame.. 12 year olds play rs and wow but it still has staking and i think the alien oasis townie should have staking
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    Quote Originally Posted by icantgetkills View Post
    i dont think abilities should be implemented but staking is in everygame.. 12 year olds play rs and wow but it still has staking and i think the alien oasis townie should have staking
    IK! srsly we need staking. Official staking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhoIsThis View Post
    As for staking, I'm not sure that encouraging gambling is a good idea for the game, especially considering that there are quite a few younger players here.
    a ton of mmo's have it, even runescape which is filled with young players.
    gambling really isnt a problem imo
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhoIsThis View Post
    I'm not sure that PvP should give any abilities other than money - it may turn people away from the game entirely. People should not be forced to PvP if they don't want to and should not be penalized in any way in PvE. Otherwise, if there are abilities from PvP, they should be made available in PvE.

    As for staking, I'm not sure that encouraging gambling is a good idea for the game, especially considering that there are quite a few younger players here.
    took out pve perks.
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    I don't think the devs will agree with the unlimited characters, re-specs, inventory slots, ect.... They need to make money for their hard work. Don't they?
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    PvP is flawed in so many ways, it shouldn't foster any rewards whatsoever, especially when certain classes have clear-cut advantages over other classes. GCD is but only the first step in "fixing" PvP, and even so, classes will still be very unbalanced. In addition, staking aka gambling in PvP is a definitive no.

    Just because other MMOs feature certain things doesn't make it right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Physiologic View Post
    PvP is flawed in so many ways, it shouldn't foster any rewards whatsoever, especially when certain classes have clear-cut advantages over other classes. GCD is but only the first step in "fixing" PvP, and even so, classes will still be very unbalanced. In addition, staking aka gambling in PvP is a definitive no.
    Come ON phys, don't wreck the staking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Physiologic View Post
    PvP is flawed in so many ways, it shouldn't foster any rewards whatsoever, especially when certain classes have clear-cut advantages over other classes. GCD is but only the first step in "fixing" PvP, and even so, classes will still be very unbalanced. In addition, staking aka gambling in PvP is a definitive no.
    ill make it so you can only stake against your own class
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kossi View Post
    ill make it so you can only stake against your own class
    Nah, it's ok, don't change it.

    EDIT: Why? Because you do NOT have to stake against other classes unwillingly. It is your decision to stake against other classses. If you feel it is unbalanced, then don't stake. Easy as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noobmigo View Post
    Nah, it's ok, don't change it.
    no, he's right, class vs class staking is a must
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kossi View Post
    no, he's right, class vs class staking is a must
    I edited it. You quoted too fast bud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kossi View Post
    ill make it so you can only stake against your own class
    I'm not even arguing for or against staking...I'm just saying the devs said no to gambling, and staking IS gambling

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling#Staking_systems

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    Quote Originally Posted by Physiologic View Post
    I'm not even arguing for or against staking...I'm just saying the devs said no to gambling, and staking IS gambling

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling#Staking_systems
    what about PvP?
    pvp is gambling in all mmo's (excapt a few)
    you risk your armour and gear..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kossi View Post
    what about PvP?
    pvp is gambling in all mmo's (excapt a few)
    you risk your armour and gear..
    agreed i dont no an mmo that pvp/staking isnt in it.. staking and pvp brings hype and people want to play it eg play plat for the ctf maps etc... my 20 plat went to waste :/

    but staking anything class should be aloud its your choice! if i want my bear to vs a bird then i will do it... its not like your forced to vs overpowered classes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kossi View Post
    what about PvP?
    pvp is gambling in all mmo's (excapt a few)
    you risk your armour and gear..
    That's why the devs chose not to go through the paths of staking items in PL, because it is first a form of gambling, and secondly it is highly likely there will be more birds winning stakes than any other class. Inherent design flaws to the PvP system gives one class almost all the odds of winning. And yes, your suggestion would fix that (bird vs bird only match for stakes) but that's still a gambling issue.

    The only instance in which I've seen "gambling" in PL so far is the Platinum item packs that had a mix of purple/pink items and they did fix it to only pink items for one patch, when they realized that mixed-color Platinum item packs were a form of "gambling."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kossi View Post
    ill make it so you can only stake against your own class
    It would be the players choice if a Mage wants to fight a bird
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    Quote Originally Posted by Physiologic View Post
    PvP is flawed in so many ways, it shouldn't foster any rewards whatsoever, especially when certain classes have clear-cut advantages over other classes. GCD is but only the first step in "fixing" PvP, and even so, classes will still be very unbalanced. In addition, staking aka gambling in PvP is a definitive no.

    Just because other MMOs feature certain things doesn't make it right.
    I agree with you, even tho I don't Pvp much ( because its to messed up) I'm always hearing people complaining about how they are awful just because they're a bear or something, I hope there working on a way to fix this. :/
    -alux

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    Quote Originally Posted by aluxuryhoggy View Post
    I agree with you, even tho I don't Pvp much ( because its to messed up) I'm always hearing people complaining about how they are awful just because they're a bear or something, I hope there working on a way to fix this. :/
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