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    Default How to spec your end game bear

    I think the most discussed topic in this warrior forum is the old question, how much str and how much dex a bear should have. This is just my opinion to the topic. I never tried int, but when I do, I will update this post.

    The level 56 bear has choices between a 282 str / 2 dex spec and a 7 str /277 dex - and of course every combination in between. Ellyidol already wrote some lines to the different builds in his Attack Bear and Bow Bear Guides.

    My history started as a full str bear, adding some dex with level 50, going full dex a little later, then to hybrid dex and finally dual spec since level 55. So - Iíve seen it all :-)

    To take a look what all these build types mean for your stats and skills, I respeced for the most common combinations. To show realistic numbers, I wore my normal gear. And so I made two charts, one for those who want to use str gear, one for the dex gear fans.

    I compared three specifications each:

    - Full: All there is into the desired stat
    - 173: This is the minimum stat for wearing level 55 sets without having to use boost gear
    - 142: My example for dual spec, there are other combinations possible as well, see Ellyís Dual Spec Guide

    First for the classic warrior, the comparison for str gear: (click for big pic)



    My opinion:

    When wearing str, I would expect a bear to tank for the group. My idea of tanking is lots of beckons, stuns and stomps. As a full str bear, you have a terribly low hit percentage, so chances are good many of your beckons lead to nowhere. You have lower skill damage, the damage you will most likely use the most. So in my opinion, full str is the worst choice for tanking. The only plus is the significantly higher health.

    The differences between the 173 and 142 spec are very small. So thatís an easy decision to make: If you donít want to think about boost sets and loadouts, go 173. If you want to be versatile and switch between sword and bow, go dual spec.

    Now for the ursan damage dealer, the comparison for dex gear: (click for big pic)



    My opinion:

    Actually, full dex isnít as bad as I had it in memory. The only real sacrifice is health. As full dex, you die a lot - or spam pots real fast. So tanking wont probably be what you can do for your group. But what do you gain compared to the 173 specification? A lot of hit percentage and 15 DPS. That sounds terrific, but: As far as I know, hit percentage is capped anyway, so the crazy high 151 % is just a number. And talking about just numbers, 15 extra DPS arenít that big a deal.

    The stats of the 173 and 142 spec are really close here too. So ití the same decision as for str gear: Want stress free? Go 173. Want versatile? Go 142.

    So my specing advise:

    If you only want to use either str or dex weapons, chose the 173 specification. If you want to play in both worlds, go dual spec.

    I will stay dual spec. Itís not only the versatility I like: I think the stat mix is perfect for most situations, as tank and damage dealer.

    And no matter which spec you chose, you should tweak it with a ring if you have some platinum left. Rings can help you find some of your missing damage, health or anything else.

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    Oooooooooohhhhhhhhh go speedy bear gogogo!

    Looks awesome!

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    This looks very Physiologic style of one of Ellyidol's guides (or a part) ^^
     
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    I like it i cant make my mind up tho between full dex or 142 142 this has been since i made my bear tho lol probley 200 respecs by now ergh.
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    So Dex is STILL adding more damage to skills then strength. I thought that was finally fixed.

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    Nice multi perspective guide man, very inciteful for bears lookin for the best edges. Alot of people dont realize how important dex for a bear can be. Keep up the good tankin
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    I've seen enough. Munobroby will be going dual spec. I've been debating on it, but this seals the deal for sure.
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    Same here. I apparently mistakenly believed that bears benefited from more STR for skill damage (since it's primary stat) than DEX. I am still primarily a tank, but I also am dual spec'ing because it gets tiring knowing your bear is the weak link in boss fights. Wallace, could you save me the time (I'm 53 right now) and tell me what I should use as stats to be able to equip green and orange 51 and 53 archer gear and still use my 51,53 purple/green bear gear?

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    Love it man! Your in-game explanation a while back opened my eyes to a new world. Your tha man! (props to Elly as well!)

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    It's all Wallace, didn't help at all in this guide

    Perfect work! Linking to guides..

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    Thx a lot! this very helps!!
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    Great guide 'chatting bear'


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    Excellent guide - I liked the Specs + Main Skills comparison, it is very useful. Now I know all I need to evolve my Lev 48 bear...

    <edit> a silly question here was deleted by the author </edit>
    Last edited by Tamino; 04-29-2011 at 03:13 AM.

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    Great information Wallace! I really like how you showed the skill damage with each spec. Thanks for taking the time to do this.

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    Its cool,but im kinda dissagre with the full str
    You know, that GAY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by masterx3 View Post
    Its cool,but im kinda dissagre with the full str
    What exactly do you disagree on?

    Wallace's guide shows explicit figures that a dual spec bear can do everything a pure strength can, and so much more.

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    i agree with the rest, very nice !!

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    Thumbs up Mr.Wallace is awesome

    Omg! Y did i not find this info earlier. I trudge through hundreds of posts, and thousands of replies seeking the ultimate truth on skill dmg. I always suspect that pure is not the best way to increase skill damage. Ie. Nuke mage vs int/dex mage. Though some posts contradict my belief. THANK YOU Mr.Wallace for confirming this. u r awesome.

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    Thanks for the guide

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