Enchanted Eye & Para Gems Dilemma

[Kingofninjas]

Honestly, I think doing this will make the jewel system completely useless. Right now, most people are sitting on excess gold (at least till sns becomes a reality), and bringing back these jewels will make them affordable to all. Don't get me wrong, that's a great thing, but then what was the point of the jewel system?

Instead, we could implement Ravagerx's idea of not allowing gems to be put into pvl 46 gear released after the change is made, including but not limited to the remaining 2 parts of the mythic set. Honestly, I have no clue why gems were even scaled to lvl 46 if they wanted to get rid of them...

[xiziviqi]

Don't bring back "para & eye" please. ....better bring a new gear with good stat

[Dex Scene]

Definitely yes.
I would say no to eyes and para gems coming back if they were farmed only in little numbers and if most of them were used in useless gears which people don't use. So would see those gems fade away.
But this is not the case.
They are alot in numbers and people like zeus have handful of them for upcoming any gear sets.

People still uses eye and para gemmed gears as there couldn't come any new gear which could outdate those old gears which has para or eye gemmed in it.
Twink gears such as SS, DWS, UMBRALS never seem to get outdated any soon.
So if the Halloween 14' gem and the eye gem don't make a come back, the gear gap will only be increased and not the opposite.

Those free event gems make huge stat difference and some people have no way to get them. STS should look at it as a issue.
Best items can't come for one event and then get discontinued.

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[Ceuidear]

+10 Zeus(LoL)
I agree with what U candyclicks & visiting say.
I started playing this game from May 2015 so, i really didnt know how eye gems where crafted or how para gems where obtainned but i did undestood that those 2 gems gave good stats than other gems & where expensive too.
When i started the cost of an eye gem was around 1.5M & para gem 4M [not sure exactly] but after expansion & replacement of gems by jewel eye price got hiked to 3M & para to 6-7M.
With release of jewels & removal of gems there has been too much of imbalance in game as old players have stacked too much of eye & para gems which makes it affordable only for rich & hoarders & poor players will just have to stare at the eye & para holders thinking " Wow !!! Para & eye " (LoL).
Small story about my fineese jewel farming:-
As far i have noticed fineese jewels drops more in Tindirin maps as i keep farming tooths at wilds i decided to make an experiment of replacing fire gems of my planar pendant with standard fineese. So, i started farming fineese & tooths @ wilds [ Didn buy single cracked jewel only farmed ] when i started farming jewels i had 5 tooths by the time i made 2 standard fineese i had farmed 100 tooths !!!

This shows that jewels drop too rarely & is time consuming to get one jewels that gives stats same as eye & para.

Its really an appreciating idea by u zeus as even though u & many others have hoarded those gems & are rich you still wanna make other players get what only some of pro & rich players have got.

[epicrrr]

Hope they dont bring it back. Its a gem highly disruptive to the gameplay, market and the overall thing of how a stats is perceived.

Some might own a full para set some not, as the game progress and "itemization" implemented (whatever this is) hope that AL items with para be only for players who want to stay at a certain brackets and pure endgamer gets a jewel comparable to para/eye not cling to a lvl 31/36/41/46 item with para.

I cant say brackets dominated by paras are broken but 46 needs some fresh stuff, halloween is close been a year since para's introduction and para gem should be forgotten/replaced.

[noobseller]

Don't bring back Para & Ent gems, instead sts rather kill those gems.

Basically remove them instantly from the game.

Do not let it be used even on newer gear.

[Bluebatthing]

Technically, these aren't gems, they're Paracelsus Soul Stones and Enchanted Eye of Syrillax. So when STS said they're trying to phase out gems, they're not referring to these, at least that's my interpretation, but I've been wrong more times than right...

[Maarkus]

Hi Zeus,

Dont get me wrong, im a big fan of para's and eye gems but 'what if' there will be a release later on for mix jewel recipes?
Like a reinforced jewel recipe? Combining fury/mind/finesse with diamond to replave the reinforced gems? And a enchanted jewel recipe ? Combining fury/mind/finesse/ lightning? Or a new recipe combining chaos and anotber jewel?

These recipes may be the answer for sts to continue their trend, as the recipes encourage plat spenditure for 'impatient' player.

I mean if sts needs avenues to generate plat, giving out gems that didnot cost plat may be isnt a priority but craftable jewels that may inchre a plat purchase to speed up the process is something sts mught be more inclined to do.

Im not incouraging plat spend but im just trying to look at it from a business perspective for STS to gain something as i think atm STS needs revenue stream somewhere to maintain the game and also STS hard work needs some follow thru i mean why make a new system if they will just dump it? ... Well that has happened before but im sure they dont want it to be a trend .

Just a thought, dismiss if its not a viable option.

Maarkus

[xRyuzanki]

If they will bring back the para Gems and Eye Gems ;
They should make para Gems tradeable .

[Titanium]

Just another thread put down by casual players * clap * * clap * . Nothing new under the sun.

For me, people who don't want para/eye back or a jewel with same potencial as those 2 gems are casual players or they have a personal vedentta. And for those who have no winding on their brain. Yea, Zeus is clearly trying something here on forum. I don't know what for he needs more gold than he actually has since paragem will be obtainable for everyone? That logic.

I don't freaking want another boring awful flawed event like Ursoth 2015. Worst event ever made. Why? We couldn't have something to make gold from.


I don't want something good to be obtainable by casual players. I want to get something which i can hoard and make gold from in 1 week or 6 months after it's release. If we are going to get another bad reward hard to obtain like a vanity/backpack/banner then we are screwed. Since elites aren't a good way to make gold from how about buffing the prizes of Halloween event?

[Oursizes]

Just another thread put down by casual players * clap * * clap * . Nothing new under the sun.

For me, people who don't want para/eye back or a jewel with same potencial as those 2 gems are casual players or they have a personal vedentta. And for those who have no winding on their brain. Yea, Zeus is clearly trying something here on forum. I don't know what for he needs more gold than he actually has since paragem will be obtainable for everyone? That logic.

I don't freaking want another boring awful flawed event like Ursoth 2015. Worst event ever made. Why? We couldn't have something to make gold from.


I don't want something good to be obtainable by casual players. I want to get something which i can hoard and make gold from in 1 week or 6 months after it's release. If we are going to get another bad reward hard to obtain like a vanity/backpack/banner then we are screwed. Since elites aren't a good way to make gold from how about buffing the prizes of Halloween event?

I have been wondering also. Its possible that he is hoping people may think that eye gems will come back, therefore the price becomes lower and he can hoard more? Or he may soon (before everyone else) know for sure if they will come back or not, that way he can sell all of his eye gem/para gem items and hoard gems when they come back. No one in this world tries to help anyone else without wanting something out of it. So either it is that hes attempting to manipulate the market by a well thought-out post, or he has some insider information, and is hoping that the point of "gems wont be brought back" sticks out, so prices are driven further up. As we know, sts is quick to change their mind. Who knows,para gems and eye gems might come back.

[Titanium]

I have been wondering also. Its possible that he is hoping people may think that eye gems will come back, therefore the price becomes lower and he can hoard more? Or he may soon (before everyone else) know for sure if they will come back or not, that way he can sell all of his eye gem/para gem items and hoard gems when they come back. No one in this world tries to help anyone else without wanting something out of it. So either it is that hes attempting to manipulate the market by a well thought-out post, or he has some insider information, and is hoping that the point of "gems wont be brought back" sticks out, so prices are driven further up. As we know, sts is quick to change their mind. Who knows,para gems and eye gems might come back.

Do you know that was sarcasm, right?

Samhayne stated last year that Mods/Devs won't give any "tips" in chatbox to anyone, either if he's name Zeus or Oursizes. Logically, if para gem is coming back then people are going to rush-sell eye gems, price will drop , right? I know a market manipulation when I see one from miles away. Eye gems are so costly because jewel system is awful. I personally made a comeback seeing fossil put in vendore store which made me decide to buy many vials. All the insight information that you are talking about are in the AL Announcements.

[Oursizes]

Do you know that was sarcasm, right?

Samhayne stated last year that Mods/Devs won't give any "tips" in chatbox to anyone, either if he's name Zeus or Oursizes. Logically, if para gem is coming back then people are going to rush-sell eye gems, price will drop , right? I know a market manipulation when I see one from miles away. Eye gems are so costly because jewel system is awful. I personally made a comeback seeing fossil put in vendore store which made me decide to buy many vials. All the insight information that you are talking about are in the AL Announcements.

Well I was not being sarcastic. They arent supposed to favor certain players either, but the sns fiasco proved that wrong.

[Ipoopsy]

I have been wondering also. Its possible that he is hoping people may think that eye gems will come back, therefore the price becomes lower and he can hoard more? Or he may soon (before everyone else) know for sure if they will come back or not, that way he can sell all of his eye gem/para gem items and hoard gems when they come back. No one in this world tries to help anyone else without wanting something out of it. So either it is that hes attempting to manipulate the market by a well thought-out post, or he has some insider information, and is hoping that the point of "gems wont be brought back" sticks out, so prices are driven further up. As we know, sts is quick to change their mind. Who knows,para gems and eye gems might come back.

i totally agree with you.

[Magemagix]

As i have said in many threads plz bring back paras nd eyes( non tradable bt stachable nd removable)

Sts said they will nt bring back para/eye gems so bring para/eye jewelss.

Nd talking abt jewels system its currently insane, before one could equip lepre run wt4 nd farm a lot of gems. Nd its easy to get 54( 18+18+18) grand fire+glacial+blood gems than getting 1 noble finesse.

And those who r saying they will get replaced, either they want vanity wings for plat reward or have crafted enough jewels or r hoarders.

Nd they should fix jewels drop ratee. Make them drop in low lvl areas like wt4/kt with the same drop rate as essense nd change there rarity to epic( they r mythic nw lol)

+1 to anyone for para nd eyes

[Bellaelda]

+1... Bring back eyes n paras or rethink jewels system... Current jewels are pointless waste of time and not worth the hassle

[Tatman]

Jewel system is a complete flop. You don't need to be Zeus to see it.

If it were a viable alternative for gems, no-one would make threads like this one here. Unfortunately it is not and it won't be anytime soon. Gems will phase out - just lol at this.

So yes - revisit and completely overhaul the jewel system or bring back the high end gems.

[supersyan]

This thread should be in suggestion and feedback section as it contains suggestions and feedback.

And as for the opinion the para stone should return with glow effect and not with any stats. If they come with the original stats it would ruin the current jewel system which devs worked hard for it. Eventually the gems will phased out.
The jewel system is excellent for somebody who work for their jewel. Because they can reuse their jewels and can upgrade to next tier.

its a burden for those who don't work for their jewel and simply buy from cs.

[extrapayah]

the title is well written, it is a dillema

even if your intention is good, to make everyone can have para/eyes again, probably most people will sell them for gold instead of using them, so the goal to balance everyone by letting players using para/eye will not be reached. and if they force it by making the gems untradeable, it will only re-live the scam with para gems. and in the end still, OPs with limited edition items will still be there. so, nothing will change

if sts wants to stick with the jewels, they need to force it to phase out, by making it stop scaling up on next cap and probably a limited time exchange of gems to jewels

and anyway they need to increase the chance for looting sns

[nelson131]

the title is well written, it is a dillema

even if your intention is good, to make everyone can have para/eyes again, probably most people will sell them for gold instead of using them, so the goal to balance everyone by letting players using para/eye will not be reached. and if they force it by making the gems untradeable, it will only re-live the scam with para gems. and in the end still, OPs with limited edition items will still be there. so, nothing will change

if sts wants to stick with the jewels, they need to force it to phase out, by making it stop scaling up on next cap and probably a limited time exchange of gems to jewels

and anyway they need to increase the chance for looting sns

Easy. New para gem's stats only apply once. It will still have its first time bonus, but the second new para gem gives no stats at all. So, only 1 will be useful to any player. Thus, no one will be able to stack them, as stacking them doesnt give them any extra stats.
Eg. Equipping 10 new paras = 8dmg*damage bonus
Equipping 1 new para= 8 dmg *damage binus
Sts introduced these gems to give everyone shiny effects and extra damage, not to make some ppl extremely op. Also, make these gem un-removable, and promise to release them every halloween.
Boom! All problems solved.

Or, make new jewels that drop everywhere that are identical to eyes and paras.

However, they do not scale. U need to collect like 2000 crack jewels to make one of them(does not take up inv space and stack like essenses) tradable, stashable. Also, their basic cracked forms drop like essences. The jewles are lv41. Their basic cracked form gives no stats.

Then, increse jewel stats significantly all across the board and greatly increase jewel drop rates. Make main stat jewels drop everywhere.

Boom. All problems solved