My opinions on the Warrior Changes
Sts,
AS I spent the last 5-6 hours testing all the changes on my warrior Darkko. I had an open Mind with this, trying different builds, different pets, different options, talking to multiple pro warriors, and this is my conclusion as pretty much most tanks out there that we have been nerfed beyond comprehension. You might was well take us out of the game completely as we have no strengths whatsoever
PVE... I like the concept as a tank is supposed to take damage, however when we taunt we are constantly having to mash mana/and pots, and barely have time to use a skill whatsoever, before i always had to use pots rigioursly especilaly in elite, but now I cant do elite, i tried new map and i cant help with damage, cause im healing, and pressing mana and health pots all at the same time.. ...AT least in PL, bear could pull the group jump up and smash a group. SOme type of skill. we cannot take on groups at all anymore, and our damage output is so low its ridiculous. A tank used to be able to SOLO. I rememebr only a tank could solo the dark queen in the caves in PL. ONly aa commando could solo the bosses in SL. NOw a warrior cant solo for anything, we die instantly trying to solo mobs and bosses. our damage output and armor/health do not do anything, those need to be higher....Yes I understand ROuges and mages have higher DPS, i get that, they always have... but I saw a rouge today with a DPS of 431. A warrior can get around 207-210ish tops right now after update... thats hardly a balance. IN PL my dex bear had higher dps than some birds (i sacraficed defense), how it should be// But warriors should have high damage for skills, look at those muscles!! (not DPS) THe output on MAna and life is really a joke as far as the numbers, especialy in PVP.it gives like a sliver of life for a split second before a rouges destroys it.
PVP I played several horus in 1 vs 1 matches . Keep in mind i have all end game gear INCLUDING mythic helm with lvl 26 pets. ROuges completely DESTROYED warrior after warrior after warrior and in the rooms they were all laughing about it how badly warriors suck now... it was utterly ridiciculous. They are still hitting 2000-3000 on crit, and we get to hit 200-400. how is that at all even close to being fair or balanced. OUr health isnt that high 4000-4500 with the damage output that rouges are putting out. Warriors now are getting maybe 1-3 kills a game, while rouges are 40-70. I played a game today with one of my members that got 53. I got 1, and we fought in mob groups where now tanks come together and all die together, while rouges and mages still are standing... A warrior vs warrior battle now is like a two hour long epic battle, because nobody can produce any type of damage whatsover. Ill take 1000 damage, man ill take 500 at this point. SO basically it looks like this
Rouge vs warrior Rouge has more damage, more dodge, more crit, more bonus damage, more dps, faster CD
Warrior has more Health and armor... (thats balanced??)
***now lets look at the skills
shadow piercer (75 mana 2 sec CD) 152-190 dmg, increased on crit 10% reduction in armor (75% of getting 10% health) plus quick multiple strike
noxious bolt (61 mana 2 sec CD) 152-190 dmg + poison up to addiontal 25% of damage
Razor SHield (75 mana, 20 CD) 54-67 damage EVERY SECOND, increased 20% dodge (which they are already good in) plus they get the awesome power of removing all effects.8 seconds total damage.
Aimed shot (61 mana, 2 sec cd) 197-246 and increased on crit (increase 10%, you can up that to 250% on crit, plus you increase the chances of crit, PLUS the armor is reduced by 15%)
Ill skip shoadow and trap.... COmbat Medic (47 mana 15 CD) 25% health, increase by 15%, , plus self healer, , PLUS heal over time...
now lets see warriors skills (if you want to call it that)
Skyward Smash (66.8 mana, 4 sec CD), 259-354, increase in crit10% increase in damage, 25% chance of stun
Chest Splitter (61.8 maan, 3 sec CD), 259-354, and they have a chance to disoriean them (which rouges can get out of, but you have to sacrafice wither windmill or smash to get it)
Windmill (75.9 mana, 10 sec CD?? ) 224-280 damage up to 3 times 15% damage increase, snare
AXEthrow is useless, as rarely anybody uses it
Juggernaunt is cool, but than yoru basically a tank and have no offesneive firepower at all since ur dps sucks, and you have to have vengeful and horn or yoru dead)
rally cry (very cool but we can only have 4 skills so its pointless unless yoru running flags)
vengeful (25% increase in crit, 25% damage output, and 50+ in strength) even with that we cant kill anybody, and horn, yay we get a two second shield (compare that with the ridiculous mage shield), (15 sec cd), 350-437 6 times.(over 8 seconds)
so lets do the mathI have 4559 health while in vengeful. thats 15 seconds.. we will go off that time frame. HOrn basically gives me 2400 over 8 seconds which is roughly 46% of my health. in the same 15 second time frame a rouge used combat medic.. which each pack is 25% of their life. 3 packs equal 75% of their life. thats not including if they have self heal, and heal over time. I saw a rouge today with 2500 health. so when it comes to heal a rouge can heal itself from 75%-100% , a warrior only about 50% according to the numbers)plus they are in control of their heal, warriors arent, and sometimes use it when they dont need it. so still on this 15 second time frame, , a rouge can hit you with piercer 175 damage 3 times (525) but they also reduced my armor 10%, and as if there medic wasnt enough they have a 75% chance of getting 10% life back. but they but razor shield on at the same time so you just got another 480 damage off as well, 2 sec later you get crit aimed shot, thats at least 1500, and again yoru armore is reduced 15% , so with those 4 skills we caused 2500 damage and reduced yoru armor by 25% in basically 5 seconds, times that by 3 for 15 seconds, you have 7500 damage,(and thats being generous since you can spam them since they all have 2 sec cd and you could really use all three in 3-4 seconds and not including the damge after the armor redection) and remeber our health was 4559+2400(for horn) 6959 total. This doesnt even INCLUDE the dps from just swinging the damn knives.so lets look at warrior, I get vengeful which increases damge 25%, so skyward will hit around 375-450, lets even say i hit a perfect windmill 280 damage 3 times with the 15%, thats 966 (but the 3 hits isnt even guaranteed), so basically in 5 seconds i cause 1391, say 1400 for argument sake. ill even lower rouge to 2000 health which is about average for what ive seen. they hve 600 life after my attack but since medic packs were out they just increased itback to 2000 very quickly. The next 5 seconds (windmill not usuable cause of 10 sec cd), lets even say they got no medic packs in first 10 seconds, i can only use skyward once more in that time frame, at 400. they are still alive... casue dps is so Loooow for warrior. the health we do get back from vengeful is a joke, i saw 22, 27, 28 today, what does that do when your getting hit with 4 digits. so lets review again
ROuge, more crit by far, more dodge by far, more dps by far, more damage by far, faster CD by far, more abilities for offensive skills by far (warrior only class that needs to use buff for skill, so we get two offensive slots) (rouges buff razor however causes damage as well) better health by far, (more life percentage given, and horn is SOOO slow)its funny how our skills also take up more mana, windmill (our most damaging skill takes 75.9 mana , and 10 sec CD, which is higher mana than ANY rouge skill) aimed shot, rouges best, is there lowest mana output at 61 for the offensive skills,(shouldnt this be highest mana output, and highest CD since its so damn damaging) . it would take me 40 seconds to produce the amount of damage they can in 4 seconds. I really hope this is looked at.. A lot of warriors are upset because we at least had a fighting chance with the so called "glitch". now we are pointless. at least when mages were weak they could still stand back and shoot and get kills. warriors cant do anything now. I spend a ton of money here , and am about to stop, because STS listens to people that twink , and say warriors are op, with absolutely no evidence whatsoever, and mostly rouges and mages are the ones who post on forums regularry. All we can do now, is put horn, and juggernaut , nix the offensive skills, and and run flags, cause thats all we are good at now........ :/ before update i was k/d 4168-2911. Now im 4174-2963 , thats 6-52 record lol with a few hours of 1 vs 1 which i always do and excelled at. those 6 wins were against 3 warriors (epic long battles), 2 mage (sorry ceroand 1 rouge who was lvl 25. that is not balance in a 1 vs 1 atmosphere especially when i had such a good record prior and have been good in pvp ever since PL with my dex bear
I honestly wonder if you guys look at the actual numbers cause how you have pumped up one class (rouges) and degraded another class (warriors) is appaling. I know this is just a test and the numbers need to be looked at, but I really hope you give the warrior a fighting chance... keep this also in mind (most players in AL are warriors) thats a lot of pissed off people. And also keep in mind warriors by far have the higest priced equipment in auction compared to other classes, so they are already at a disadvantage to begin with . I feel terrible for the warriors that cant afford good equipment, because today i was three seperate warriors myself included all with mythic end game gear, get oblierated. I couldnt imagane what those without that gear are going through.... my rants over, nothign will change, and we will probably get nerfed again because rouges will whine that we are still op (eventhough we never were).. I know this is a lot and I hate complaing, but at least before many end games rouges could kill both classes, end game warriors could kill both classes, and end games mages could kill both classes (especially mages with mythic) they were hardcore. now some warriors can kill mages.... rouges can kill any warrior, and mages can now kill rouges... its like a triangle.. thats not balance.. and forget PVE, im not healing anybody if i have to use pots, there will be a lot of dead mages and rouges... they rely on us for the heal since its a wide area heal... and if i have no time to charge it anymore.... I think ill just stick with my rouge now since they are the only class that matters to sts....
*****update so I think I see what's really going on...its the skills..warrior have 5 offensive skills, do nothing for defense. . The 3 defensive skills do nothing offensively...warriors are basically forced to have horn and vengeful and only have two slots for either two offensive skills or 1 defensive and 1 offensive. Lets compare to other classes...rouges piercer is offensive however it also provides 75% chsnce of 10% health so its defensive as well... raZor is offensive skill however it also increases dedense with 20% dodge, and removing imparing effects. Sv also is offensive and adds 20% armor and 15% dodge..so not onky do they have offensive skills that do a lot od damage, those skills combine defense. I know the arguement will be is we don't have as much health as warrior.. fair.. and glad sts is trying to balance that however we don't have thr same balance for our weakness which is damage output. Mage also has skills like gale which is offensice but adds dodgr plus movement, their shield is utterly ridiculous and pretty much combines warriors horn, juggernaut, and rally cry all in one...if u look at stats again this is basically goving them more health... both classes weakness for mage and rouge is health , both classes have skills to primarily address this... warrior has no way to combat this.. I propose combing juggernaut rally and vengeful...that way vengeful x an give us defense, which a tank should have and givr us another slot for an offensove skill that might help our damage output without raising numbers....
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