Ban the Midas Touch

[Daddyblu]

Emma and Jon,

Majority? Come on a lot of big time plat user dont even have a forums account.

I yes majority of the forum users agree but not arcane players, there are more than 20k players in arcane legends.

Dont blame the AP because you of carelessness, Let say we are human we make friends and its normal to help them.
But if we turn them down i dont think they will get mad or be offended its 100m after all.

Lets put this on another scenario. let me calculate how much 100m = 20k platinum converted platinum and converted to USD.

100m is like 1,058 USD, a friend who you meet online will ask can i borrow $1,058 for like 2-3hrs ill return them back.

You think you will let them? Come its hard to make money in real life and you will let someone you meet online borrow $1,058??
Even in real life its hard to let people you know borrow amount of money.
My point is this is online dont trust anyone but if you do trust them that is by your choice.
NO one force to and told you to lend them the money.
End of the day its still your call, your responsibilities.

I think it's up for the people who have the "100M" already. Helping friends is "SO FINE" but again, think first. Why would I lend even a friend "100M" for the fact that ME, MYSELF and I worked so hard to get this money? If we guys don't like to get scam or whatever you call you, be wise and smart. "THE MIDAS TOUCH" ... It's an ACHIEVEMENT POINT for the first place. It's not just a give away like what others do in lending their own money just to help people to get AP. Why put this as an ACHIEVEMENT POINT if we will just give it away? That's the problem. Yeah, I understand that we are being "FRIENDLY" or "WE HAVE SO CALLED FRIENDS" but guys, it's our fault too, accept it.

Think that it is "100,000,000" that we just wanna hand to someone for a second or seconds. But still .... It's 100M and an ACHIEVEMENT POINT at stake. Let's just be wise. No one wants to get scammed. It's still our decision. Just think that we work so hard to get the gold.
IT IS UP TO US NOW IF WE WANT TO LEND IT FOR "JUST" AN ACHIEVEMENT POINT. NEVERTHELESS, THEY SHOULDN'T MAKE THIS AS AN ACHIEVEMENT POINT.
Peace everyone!

We can only agree with Jaytb proposal. Its not only you john and Emma spend a lot of this game.

Maybe there's some middle ground to be found...

I agree that something needs to be done, even if the person who got scammed has him/her self to blame. It's just too easy and too harsh of a scam to let it be like it is in its current form. There's a big difference between lending an item or lending whatever to achieve AP's. the AP associated with the Midas touch is basically what gives scammers a valid reason to ask you for your hard earned gold.

That said, I also understand that people who spend a lot of plat just for the AP's, shouldn't be 'punished' for people's lack of common sense. Taking away the AP wouldn't be fair to them.

So these are basically the 2 sides to the story as I understood it and personally, I think they are both valid things to consider.

So yeah, although I haven't figured it out (yet?), maybe there might be another solution to this. One less drastic as to remove the AP while simultaneously lowering (or eliminating) the chances to get scammed because of it.

There are many smart people on the forums so I'm positive that we could come up with something that could potentially be a solution for both parties. At least that's what I'll focus on in the rest of my post.

The best I could come up with for the moment (and I saw someone suggest something similar somewhere), is keeping the AP but making you hold the gold for a specific amount of time before it's granted.

One of the problems would be were you need to keep the gold. Do you have to keep it on one character or in stash for a period of time? To me it feels most convenient if we could just have the amount of gold in our account and get the AP granted just once per account, while every character in that account would automatically get the title. This would also prevent people/guilds from just creating a ton of alts in the same account and give them the Midas touch to boost up their total guild AP's.

I do see a problem with having alts in different guilds and which toon should get the AP's for leaderboards purposes, so let's look at the stash option. With this option, you could basically keep all the AP's, but every toon that wants it need to stash 100 mil (minus 1 gold) for a specific period of time before the AP is granted to that character.

Second problem would be the time you'd need to have the gold in your account or your stash. Make it too short, and people will still ask for it, while making it too long could make it too hard for some to ever get there. I was thinking about a week or so before the AP gets granted.

Note that I didn't mention keeping the gold on a character for a longer period of time, because this would just be really inconvenient. You wouldn't be able to receive gold trades, cs sales or liquidation fees for items during the time period you're holding on to the gold.

So yeah, that's just a random possible way of keeping both AP's and lowering chances to scam significantly.

I dare you to do better! (Can't be that hard LOL)

This i will agree or reset everyone who got the title then no more borrowing!

IF you let them borrow its your risk your call!