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    Still the added stats should be at least equal (20) to mallison at this prize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akaee View Post
    Still the added stats should be at least equal (20) to mallison at this prize.
    But then Malison would be abandoned lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natrich View Post
    But then Malison would be abandoned lol.
    It still would be a very worthy alternative that can be farmed for free, without having to spend a dime.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JaytB View Post
    And how about my suggestion with the 20/20/20 stats? Wouldn't that be a fair and balanced compromise?
    Well, if Slag gets boosted there, I demand that Ripmaw be boosted with similar stats as well since they are both mythic and it's expensive to have both mythic pets on a toon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Natrich View Post
    But then Malison would be abandoned lol.
    No it wouldn't. I use several pets. Malison would still be one of my tops. Do you only use one pet? I prefer not to drain my gold into feeding them in the field. I will feed them if the situation calls for it. Otherwise I send them back to their stable to eat there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by earhole View Post
    Well, if Slag gets boosted there, I demand that Ripmaw be boosted with similar stats as well since they are both mythic and it's expensive to have both mythic pets on a toon.
    Technically it would be an "un-nerf"" even though the thing hasn't come out yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by earhole View Post
    Well, if Slag gets boosted there, I demand that Ripmaw be boosted with similar stats as well since they are both mythic and it's expensive to have both mythic pets on a toon.
    Demands won't get you anywhere, suggestions might. The way I see it, Ripmaw is a pet of the past. I'm sure there will be future mythic pets that blow every current pet out of the water, including this new pet. You enjoyed the, for that time and that lvl cap, strong buff, so why wouldn't a new mythic pet be similarly better for this cap?

    Your 'demand' would mean that there's only 1 mythic pet you'd buy for the rest of your game life, because they would get a buff each time a new mythic pet comes around.

    What was strongest in previous caps can't be expected to be stronger in all future caps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaytB View Post
    And how about my suggestion with the 20/20/20 stats? Wouldn't that be a fair and balanced compromise?
    it wouldn't
    it would make this pet BEST FOR ALL TIMES. You basically would buy other pets only for achievements,
    also it would result in demand of buffing other mythic/arcane pets

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaytB View Post
    Demands won't get you anywhere, suggestions might. The way I see it, Ripmaw is a pet of the past. I'm sure there will be future mythic pets that blow every current pet out of the water, including this new pet. You enjoyed the, for that time and that lvl cap, strong buff, so why wouldn't a new mythic pet be similarly better for this cap?

    Your 'demand' would mean that there's only 1 mythic pet you'd buy for the rest of your game life, because they would get a buff each time a new mythic pet comes around.

    What was strongest in previous caps can't be expected to be stronger in all future caps.

    At least that's my opinion about it
    Doesn't matter if it's out. It's still current since it's not removed til tomorrow. As of now, ripmaw is just a ripoff of flapjack. Boosting the stats to the 20/20/20 would make it way overpowered compared to ripmaw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by earhole View Post
    Doesn't matter if it's out. It's still current since it's not removed til tomorrow. As of now, ripmaw is just a ripoff of flapjack. Boosting the stats to the 20/20/20 would make it way overpowered compared to ripmaw.
    As said in my post, ripmaw is a pet of the past and I don't see how 20/20/20 is overpowered as there are many pets that add more stats, that are better suited in different situations.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jtst View Post
    it wouldn't
    it would make this pet BEST FOR ALL TIMES. You basically would buy other pets only for achievements,
    also it would result in demand of buffing other mythic/arcane pets
    How so? I mean honestly, the buffs these pets give are going to become obsolete soon. So there can't be a best pet for all time. Unless they change to percentages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wvhills View Post
    Kettle gives 15 dex, 15 int, 15 str and 10 damage. So the difference in kettle and the new mythic pet is 2 more damage, 10 movement speed and 5 less str. Kettle's arcane ability adds 12 movement speed. So the only difference is slag's arcane damage and it has 5 less str.




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    Quote Originally Posted by JaytB View Post
    As said in my post, ripmaw is a pet of the past and I don't see how 20/20/20 is overpowered as there are many pets that add more stats, that are better suited in different situations.
    It's way over powered compared to the other mythic pet ripmaw. 20/20/20 is overpowered when you combine the 12% damage and speed to it.

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    I see kettle and slag as being basically the same. Yes, slag has the arcane going for it but is it worth it considering the long cooldown time? For me it comes down to whether you would rather 1) spend the time farming a kettle or spend the 200k to buy one from auction or 2) just spend 250 plat to buy one straight out.

    I already have a kettle so I doubt I go for a slag. When it was 30 dex I would def go for it but not now (the one monkey pet gives 30 int so why can't a pet give 30 dex?). Even with it's current stats I'd probably buy a slag to use in my pet rotation in pvp if it cost less than 250 plat. Malison gives 20/20/20 with 5 crit and 15 dodge arcane buff (which to me is a lot better than slag's stats) and he costs 90 plat. For me to spend 250 plat the pet would have to be even better than malison (and by a lot).

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    Quote Originally Posted by earhole View Post
    Don't forget that ripmaw is pretty much just flapjack as well
    I can't think of 2 pets that are most opposite. Ripmaw gives STR (health) and damage reduction, while Flapjack is purely offensive (15% damage boost). One is a defensive pet while the other is offensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Energizeric View Post
    I can't think of 2 pets that are most opposite. Ripmaw gives STR (health) and damage reduction, while Flapjack is purely offensive (15% damage boost). One is a defensive pet while the other is offensive.
    They both have 8 h/s and 8 m/s?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Energizeric View Post
    I can't think of 2 pets that are most opposite. Ripmaw gives STR (health) and damage reduction, while Flapjack is purely offensive (15% damage boost). One is a defensive pet while the other is offensive.
    3%dr is miniscule and prob won't make any difference. 15% damage vs 15str. Rest of stats and abilities is a carbon copy.

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    20/20/20 might make this the best pet ever.....glacian included.

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    Quote Originally Posted by earhole View Post
    20/20/20 might make this the best pet ever.....glacian included.
    I read that the first time when you claimed it. I still disagree for reasons I won't repeat


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    Quote Originally Posted by earhole View Post
    3%dr is miniscule and prob won't make any difference. 15% damage vs 15str. Rest of stats and abilities is a carbon copy.
    If you are a warrior with 3800 health, then 3% is equivalient to 114 health, or the same that 11 STR gives you. If you are a sorcerer with 2500 health, then 3% is 75 health which is the same as 7+ STR points. It does make a difference. You don't know how many times in PvP I've been down to 2% health after a rogue aimed shot, but then managed to stun them, heal myself a little, and then chop them down before they recovered from the stun.

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