[L36 Rogue PvP]: Potentially Controversial Skill Build

**Gameplay** · 02-08-2014, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Postulate1

Are macros even allowed?

Also how do you accurately differentiate between a jugg and vb.

this is veng, looks like rings are coming towards you
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veng looks like your exerting pressure
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**Zeus** · 02-08-2014, 04:17 PM

Used the build some more today versus mages, lets say even if they were using 5 or 6 skills - I rarely died.

Now, against Arrypotta... that's a different story considering he's rocking 1000 DPS.

**Imjebus** · 02-08-2014, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by Zeus

Used the build some more today versus mages, lets say even if they were using 5 or 6 skills - I rarely died.

Now, against Arrypotta... that's a different story considering he's rocking 1000 DPS.

Arry's DPS is insane. It strikes fear into everyone.

**Sariita** · 02-08-2014, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by Zeus

Used the build some more today versus mages, lets say even if they were using 5 or 6 skills - I rarely died.

Now, against Arrypotta... that's a different story considering he's rocking 1000000k DPS.

Fixed

He has an insane DPS...

**Zeus** · 02-08-2014, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by Imjebus

Arry's DPS is insane. It strikes fear into everyone.

Haha, it's not only that but he really understands a sorcerer unlike most geared sorcs. So, he's able to fight very very very well.

**Imjebus** · 02-08-2014, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by Zeus

Haha, it's not only that but he really understands a sorcerer unlike most geared sorcs. So, he's able to fight very very very well.

Exactly xD it's basically a double wammy :P

**notfaded1** · 02-10-2014, 09:52 AM

So ur keeping this build even when you go back to Farm Shuyal or do you respec anyhow? 1000 DPS O.o... I'm stayin' away from him...and I thought 800 was high :^}
Also ur upgraded PvE builds workin' good after I added crit back in... thnx again brother.

**cutekilllller** · 02-11-2014, 11:31 AM

What about the basic points?

**Zeus** · 02-11-2014, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by cutekilllller

What about the basic points?

I specified in the guide where to put the points.

**Azepeiete** · 02-12-2014, 01:05 PM

Meh i used to use this build (with points a bit different) but i disliked it. To each his own eh

**falmear** · 02-12-2014, 02:18 PM

What I like about this build is dropping packs at 70% gives mages a chance to cancel rogues packs with a stun. Hopefully more people run this build.

**Zeus** · 02-12-2014, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by falmear

What I like about this build is dropping packs at 70% gives mages a chance to cancel rogues packs with a stun. Hopefully more people run this build.

If you're smart, you wait it out. You can throw the packs first, but I've found waiting out the stun to be far more effective. In the mean time, veil will allow you to survive the onslaught of spells. Additionally, failed spells are able to be predicted, so if you're failing your skills - it is your own fault.

If you'd like, I can versus you to show this to be true.

**Solid** · 02-12-2014, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by Zeus

If you're smart, you wait it out. You can throw the packs first, but I've found waiting out the stun to be far more effective. In the mean time, veil will allow you to survive the onslaught of spells. Additionally, failed spells are able to be predicted, so if you're failing your skills - it is your own fault.

If you'd like, I can versus you to show this to be true.

I like to pack, bow stun then , and then veil.

**inkredible** · 02-12-2014, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by Postulate1

Are macros even allowed?

Also how do you accurately differentiate between a jugg and vb.

raised his hand in the air ..(jugg without taunt) - doesnt do a circle flash
raised his hand in the air t (VB )- blinking circle

jugg with taunt - double halo

**inkredible** · 02-12-2014, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by Gameplay

this is veng, looks like rings are coming towards you
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veng looks like your exerting pressure
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lol first picture is juggernaut with taunt.. however if u didnt have taunt.. u wont see any circle around the character.. which make it harder
for people to know when jugg is done.. unless you count accurately.. or i suppose.. guess.. but .. a warrior can hide it..what i mean by that. is using venge and jugg at the same time
or using jugg then quickly tappin a skill.. some ppl at an intense fight u wont even tell they used jugg.

**Zeus** · 02-12-2014, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by Postulate1

I like to pack, bow stun then , and then veil.

That works well for non dagger rouges. Thanks for that comment! I've only tested it out on a dagger build but after testing your way on a bow build (I rarely use bow), it does work well.

**Zeus** · 02-12-2014, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by inkredble

raised his hand in the air ..(jugg without taunt) - doesnt do a circle flash
raised his hand in the air t (VB )- blinking circle

jugg with taunt - double halo

Thanks, Ink! I was wondering why Ravager's jugg didn't show the pulling in circle. It makes sense now.

**Azepeiete** · 02-12-2014, 07:04 PM

The trick to arrypotta is lasting through his stunlock...our last bout was 10-8(he did have some lag tho) but i use the following things mostly...this is what i do for all nuke/stunlock mages not just arry
Using nox
-Make sure you count to start dont go on a charged skills
-run up with charged daggers because you are going to be stunned anyway, hopefully he is too.
-try and stunlock as he stunlocks you. Charge packs as soon as free
-start with a charged combo then tap the rest as you grab packs

Using veil rather than nox
-charge veil on go, run up and stun with dags. Try and lock.
-drop packs as soon as possible and combo combo combo
-if the mage is smart like arry and gets away from your veil, charge aim, grab all your packs, and aim pierce combo
-if the mage is dumb and doesnt leave your veil, kill it how you please

**Zeus** · 02-12-2014, 07:07 PM

Originally Posted by Azepeiete

The trick to arrypotta is lasting through his stunlock...our last bout was 10-8(he did have some lag tho) but i use the following things mostly...this is what i do for all nuke/stunlock mages not just arry
Using nox
-Make sure you count to start dont go on a charged skills
-run up with charged daggers because you are going to be stunned anyway, hopefully he is too.
-try and stunlock as he stunlocks you. Charge packs as soon as free
-start with a charged combo then tap the rest as you grab packs

Using veil rather than nox
-charge veil on go, run up and stun with dags. Try and lock.
-drop packs as soon as possible and combo combo combo
-if the mage is smart like arry and gets away from your veil, charge aim, grab all your packs, and aim pierce combo
-if the mage is dumb and doesnt leave your veil, kill it how you please

Aze, try throwing the veil as far away as possible. The reason why I say this is because mage skills are short range while all our skills are long range. So, mages like Arry will be forced to come close if they want to avoid being sniped.

Lemme know how it works with that strategy.

**Azepeiete** · 02-12-2014, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by Zeus

Aze, try throwing the veil as far away as possible. The reason why I say this is because mage skills are short range while all our skills are long range. So, mages like Arry will be forced to come close if they want to avoid being sniped.

Lemme know how it works with that strategy.

I wunna fight his singe