Flawed buff/debuff mechanics.

**Serancha** · 07-08-2014, 10:25 PM

We know there's a lot of hidden things that go into these patches. Last I knew, you could see the pet damage in TDM but not CTF, although whether it actually was in effect is debatable. Probably all part of the "pvp balancing" act.

**Serancha** · 07-08-2014, 10:45 PM

Is this a display glitch Aspy, or for real?

**Madnex** · 07-08-2014, 10:48 PM

Originally Posted by Serancha

Is this a display glitch Aspy, or for real?

I sure hope so but we're supposedly able to see all our stats clearly now and so far that's been accurate. Are you getting the same results?

**Serancha** · 07-08-2014, 10:51 PM

I don't play chrome, but I can see my pet damage in TDM on ipad. Will have to check in ctf.

**Zeus** · 07-08-2014, 11:07 PM

I'll verify for all three devices later tonight for you, Asphy.

**Madnex** · 07-08-2014, 11:14 PM

Originally Posted by Zeus

I'll verify for all three devices later tonight for you, Asphy.

No one else panicking if this is true? Coooome on, I'm not the only one who TDM's solely on Chrome. Right guys? Guys? >_>

**Zeus** · 07-08-2014, 11:21 PM

Originally Posted by Madnex

No one else panicking if this is true? Coooome on, I'm not the only one who TDM's solely on Chrome. Right guys? Guys? >_>

I do!

So, on the contrary...Chrome users are disadvantaged? LOL :3

**Visiting** · 07-08-2014, 11:26 PM

Lol@pvp

**Madnex** · 07-09-2014, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by Ralchior

Lol@pvp

Pshh, this affects you too. Now get out there and verify it swab - and fast!

**Serancha** · 07-09-2014, 01:18 AM

Get counting nab. :P

**Zeus** · 07-09-2014, 03:50 PM

I checked on my computer and my in town stats were active in TDM as well.

OS: Windows 8.1 Enterprise

**Zeus** · 07-09-2014, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by Madnex

Synopsis and test results of the issue that has arrisen to our attention can be found below.

Rogues:
-Android & iOS users have an unfair advantage comparing to Chrome users since in TDM, no damage debuff (10%) is applied to the first group.
-To make matters much worse, due to the currently flawed debuff mechanics, the difference between the two groups now goes well over 20% damage when using a pet with damage buff in its Happiness Bonus.

Warriors:
-Android & iOS users have an unfair disadvantage over Chrome users since in TDM, no damage buff (5%) is applied to the first group.
-There are no complications on this class pertaining the lack of the above buff.

It's most concerning to have to worry about what platform you play on to be on equal footing with the rest of the PvP players.

Can we get a dev confirm or at least look into this issue?

Thanks.

Have you figured out why I'm the outlier in this testing?

**Madnex** · 07-09-2014, 08:57 PM

Originally Posted by Zeus

Have you figured out why I'm the outlier in this testing?

Can you post your damage (with the same build/pet of course) from all your platforms on TDM? As for joining method, join randoms without being in a team.

**Madnex** · 07-10-2014, 02:47 AM

Latest bug report retracted. It needs specific requirements to be met in order to occur - not as major concern as I thought.

Debuffs literally decimating and canceling any and all rogue damage boosts in pvp issue is still queued to be fixed.

**Zynzyn** · 07-10-2014, 08:28 AM

Originally Posted by Madnex

Debuffs literally decimating and canceling any and all rogue damage boosts in pvp issue is still queued to be fixed.

Could a dev please clarify? Will cancellation of 'pet damage boost' for rogues in ctf be fixed and when?

**Madnex** · 07-10-2014, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by Zynzyn

Could a dev please clarify? Will cancellation of 'pet damage boost' for rogues in ctf be fixed and when?

Originally Posted by Alottabit

Thanks for the help! I'll check out what I can - I know that at least we will be looking into changing how buff/debuff stacking works.

It's confirmed, awaiting on a fix.

**Jexetta** · 07-14-2014, 11:17 AM

Amazing. Good research & very disconcerting results.

**Deathlyreaper** · 07-12-2015, 11:15 PM

Im just wondering if this whole issue has been resolved because its been a year

**Madnex** · 07-13-2015, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by Deathlyreaper

Im just wondering if this whole issue has been resolved because its been a year

No, not yet. At the moment, anything new that is added which is affected by this debuff issue has been a workaround of sorts (eg. new shield buff for Ren'Gol orc mobs offers damage reduction instead of an armor buff that could be overridden, Stanlee's armor buff was replaced with raw armor increase, etc.).

To my understanding, it's a challenging bug to fix but they should be working on it.

**Deathlyreaper** · 07-13-2015, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by Madnex

No, not yet. At the moment, anything new that is added which is affected by this debuff issue has been a workaround of sorts (eg. new shield buff for Ren'Gol orc mobs offers damage reduction instead of an armor buff that could be overridden, Stanlee's armor buff was replaced with raw armor increase, etc.).

To my understanding, it's a challenging bug to fix but they should be working on it.

Wait so is it only the armour buff thats the problem?? Or are there other debuff problems too?