Crafting nerfed again

[Jazzi]

I haven't received a grand gem in a long, long time. I have probably received two grands since the double-odds gem weekend, and this is with crafting every day.

At this point, with all the questionable "luck" lately, I have given up on huge parts of the game. I don't bother with any daily (except for the planar tomb daily). I barely run arena. I'm barely even bothering to gem. Klass/Shaz are LOL. Loot is a joke. So I just run with friends, and, unless something changes soon, I expect to reduce my weekly in-game time by A LOT over the next couple of weeks.

I'm pretty disappointed at the current state of the game. So much for the new found transparency we heard a lot about....

Don't even get me started on the questionable luck. As of now I have earned 362 planar fragments (and those not only from t3 and t2 runs, as I help people in t1 sometimes) so for the benefit of the doubt 181 runs and i have looted 2 (two) planar chests. I used to get one every 15-25 runs. Could it be that the drop rate has accidentally been returned to what t was when the tombs first came out and before it was buffed? And it is not only me. When I ask people I received answers like 50-60-70 runs without one. Not ok in my book.

Oh and to the OP the super gems are such a suck too. You know I have zero patience and when I want something supered I want it NOW. So I decided to super wind the last 2 slots in my mythic amulet few weeks back. Cost me over 100 bucks to do it and few million in the darn gems. I mean eventually you have to look at that and say this is just stupid why am I doing this. It took a full 89.00 plat pack and then half of another one for 2 freaking super gems.

I have plat pushed tons and tons of items for super gems and I will say that yes they seem to have made it even more difficult to get those supers.

So what about 100 gems for 2 super gems? And 2400 plat? Now imagine if one would try to supergem full mythic gear: 15 gems slots. One would need 18000 plat or 900 USD o.O. I do not know about the US, but here in Germany this is still a lot of money.

[Jazzi]

Guys we haven't touched the super gem odds since the last time we ran the 2X odds weekend. That's the only time we change those odds.

Ok, lets assume that what you are saying is true. Could you please comment on what the OP is describing? Should this even be possible (600-800 tries without getting a grand)?

Thank you very much in advance for your reply!

[Candylicks]

And if as a dev you want to see the issue w/ the gemming go look through my account history. You can probably find when I was trying to gem that amulet with 2 slots and the amount of tries that it took. I am not saying that you have changed something intentionally but it for sure is a huge difference than what was previous.

[Niixed]

Hi Zeus. What would you like to see? We've been doing a number of free events just for fun lately in an effort to give back to our players and also make fun content that everyone can enjoy. Things like The Gauntlet, Love Crafting, and Leprechoblin were all designed to just be light, fun, and free. These events are admittedly small because we're focusing on creating expansion content, again to give you guys more stuff to do. For this reason I can understand if these events don't appeal to you as an elite player but I can tell you that we're working on some exciting new stuff for you to enjoy with the Rage of the Ren'gol expansion.

I'd like to bring up the fact that STS lost its lead producer so that's going to have a massive impact on workflow and productivity timelines. I'm not making excuses for STS, the game is definitely in a valley right now.

I'm saying is that I hope everyone realizes that STS is probably doing the best they can under the circumstances. The dust is still settling from Sam's departure (only been 2.5 months), plus they had to finish the MOBA that's been in development since last year.

I'm giving STS a good 6 months before I start rendering judgement. That may be too long for some, but everyone has their own level of patience.

[Candylicks]

Okay I went back to look at the exact times I platted through that amulet.

It took me 94 tries of 24 plat each to super 2 slots.

2,256 plat

That is pretty bad.

[octavos]

what is your favorite event in the history of AL? What was the most fun and exciting time?

i'll answer this...anything that requires work from you guys. Re-colors are not good...EVER, and we want effort put into the game. Play Kritika, those devs have mechanics that could make your head spin. Daily rewards, pets and vanity, and items that require skill, weekly contests and sales. Luck like many games it does have, but nothing that can be a drastic game changer.

AL good gear based on luck (hence the threads that are made recently)...Grand gemming, drops from locked chests, drops from planer, drops from bosses, drops from events, drops from arena ect.....When can I say I can complete this objective and be guaranteed an item? (and no not doing 300 elite runs is considered earning) because I've never seen this on any STS game.

[Niixed]

Okay I went back to look at the exact times I platted through that amulet.

It took me 94 tries of 24 plat each to super 2 slots.

2,256 plat

That is pretty bad.

Wow even at half price that would still be awful. Plat prices are far too high.

[Candylicks]

Another item I pushed through w/ plat was someone's arcane ring during the double gem odds weekend. Again, I would have to look at it but it took me almost entire plat pack to super gem it and that was during double odds. :/

[famousfame]

Guys we haven't touched the super gem odds since the last time we ran the 2X odds weekend. That's the only time we change those odds.

Sorry but I don't believe you, mayb this was reason samhayne left the business due to questionable ethics, I'm sorry you don't understand or empathise with is bit iv done well over 600 gems with 0 grand, and now I will let the cat out of bag I spent 3k plat on Gemming my imbued to get +6str and grand elo gem, care to explain those odds to me, on past I've spent on avg 300/500plat to get grand that's a fact this time round was quite shocking.

"what goes up will come down"

[GoodSyntax]

As mentioned a few times before we're working on an expansion right now and are planning new events and content for the rest of the year. Candylicks can I ask what is your favorite event in the history of AL? What was the most fun and exciting time?

Tarlok was easily the best event you guys put together. It was one of the rare events that really drove activity and guild cooperation! Plus the loot from the event was generally pretty good, tarlok gems were awesome, and, for the most part, there weren't too many one-hit KO's. Unfortunately, recent events have been about plat/energy and has really driven a wedge between the grinders & casuals, and the DPS & Tanks.

Shuyal was probably my favorite elite season. Mostly because the maps were fun and high end gear was plentiful. Architect weapons were generally pretty good (and had great PROCs) and during this season, we had Tarlok gear for those that wanted to go DMG oriented, so at least those without Mythics had viable alternatives. Sure, we died often enough, but we didn't get those random, no warning deaths like we do everywhere in Tindirin and Planar Tombs. The only gripe I had with Shuyal was the glitchy zones of Krom, but we did get the added bonus of multiple Krom's showing up on the maps once in a while.

Now, it just feels like the maps are a plat grab, with all the obnoxious one-hit kills and OP environmentals (specifically the death pools). There just seems to be a lot of bugs and problems with the game lately, and there has been very little response (and almost no action) from STS on any of them. The ability to earn income via farming is nearly non-existent and the rift between the top 10% and everyone else is now more like an ocean and definitely makes gameplay more of an exclusive affair. Anyone in the 10% really doesn't want to run outside of the group anymore.

Finally, with just about everything in game decided upon luck, what motivation is there when the "luck" is obviously not on your side? Am I really to believe that in 900+ arena runs I haven't even SEEN a recipe, nor do I know anyone that has actually looted a Fossil is nothing more than just a bad luck streak?

Are we really supposed to farm out Jarl/KM3 for locked until the next expansion? The social aspect is really the only thing that has brought me back to the game, but with so many being disappointed with the current state, many of my good friends are starting to leave. Once they are gone, I will not have any reason to stay. I'm sure that I am not the only one that feels this way.

[famousfame]

Supers are by far the biggest platinum waste in the game. After going through 900 platinum & not getting a single super, I promised myself that I would only super through others.

On rare items, this is highly annoying and something that should be looked into...



Let us not forget ridiculous platinum costs for things like fossils or rings. After dropping a few hundred dollars on getting the darn fossil or ring, then you have to pay 390+ plat just to be able to use it (or wait 8 days LOL). Let's not even get started on supering a ring...

If you want to have a real good laugh read how much plat i spent on imbued, ROFL, but I couldn't agree with you more on this.

"what goes up will come down"

[famousfame]

Lol, said the guy who wants for nothing...

Stay on topic plz.

"what goes up will come down"

[famousfame]

Hi Fame. In my investigations I've found that the strongest influences on Luck in the game are high activity and variety. Try not crafting anything for 12-24 hours and then craft a varying number of items, 2-4 maybe. If anything, this game is cyclical, so if you are performing your crafting activity in a similar enough manner you are going to get similar results. Try finishing up crafting in a different map/town or put a 2 minute gap between tapping each "Complete" or tapping them as fast as possible.

Break that cycle! If you mix it up often your odds will probably improve overall. How the Luck engine (a Random Number Generator or RNG) actually functions in AL is one of STS's most closely held secrets.

Tried it all friend inc sitting naked under a full moon sacrificing a goat

"what goes up will come down"

[famousfame]

And if as a dev you want to see the issue w/ the gemming go look through my account history. You can probably find when I was trying to gem that amulet with 2 slots and the amount of tries that it took. I am not saying that you have changed something intentionally but it for sure is a huge difference than what was previous.

Yes and while your looking through candy plz look through mine and see that I'm not lying.

"what goes up will come down"

[Raregem]

I personally like the major events as it brings something new and is a good way to earn gold. (Most players that I've talked with seem to rely on the major events for gold)

Halloween event has been by far the best energy event to date in my opinion. (of course the first free tarlok event will always take the cake) We had a killer plat and gold tier reward, mythic pet with tokens, vanities etc. I ran that event probably more than was healthy. The only flop from that event was the curse skull gem that still does not want to sell today. Halloween was sooo good that the winter event was a huge flop. It set the bar high for the next event and it just didn't come close to hitting it.

[Hercules]

I agree , 3 weeks and only 1 super gem. I was thinking I was the only one who had this problem.. In fact I do not risk creating a thread for fear of being told is just luck or receive criticism.

[Haligali]

Tarlok was easily the best event you guys put together. It was one of the rare events that really drove activity and guild cooperation! Plus the loot from the event was generally pretty good, tarlok gems were awesome, and, for the most part, there weren't too many one-hit KO's. Unfortunately, recent events have been about plat/energy and has really driven a wedge between the grinders & casuals, and the DPS & Tanks.

Shuyal was probably my favorite elite season. Mostly because the maps were fun and high end gear was plentiful. Architect weapons were generally pretty good (and had great PROCs) and during this season, we had Tarlok gear for those that wanted to go DMG oriented, so at least those without Mythics had viable alternatives. Sure, we died often enough, but we didn't get those random, no warning deaths like we do everywhere in Tindirin and Planar Tombs. The only gripe I had with Shuyal was the glitchy zones of Krom, but we did get the added bonus of multiple Krom's showing up on the maps once in a while.

Now, it just feels like the maps are a plat grab, with all the obnoxious one-hit kills and OP environmentals (specifically the death pools). There just seems to be a lot of bugs and problems with the game lately, and there has been very little response (and almost no action) from STS on any of them. The ability to earn income via farming is nearly non-existent and the rift between the top 10% and everyone else is now more like an ocean and definitely makes gameplay more of an exclusive affair. Anyone in the 10% really doesn't want to run outside of the group anymore.

Finally, with just about everything in game decided upon luck, what motivation is there when the "luck" is obviously not on your side? Am I really to believe that in 900+ arena runs I haven't even SEEN a recipe, nor do I know anyone that has actually looted a Fossil is nothing more than just a bad luck streak?

Are we really supposed to farm out Jarl/KM3 for locked until the next expansion? The social aspect is really the only thing that has brought me back to the game, but with so many being disappointed with the current state, many of my good friends are starting to leave. Once they are gone, I will not have any reason to stay. I'm sure that I am not the only one that feels this way.

+1 to tarlok. No leaderboard push, drop rate of gold chest was good, best items worth something. I could run free but also i felt that my plat worth something if i had no patience finding portals.

Last halloween event was good also, but only because of paragems.

[Niixed]

Tried it all friend inc sitting naked under a full moon sacrificing a goat

"what goes up will come down"

Smh Fame it's supposed to be a CHICKEN. Your inattention to detail really gets my goat.

[famousfame]

Smh Fame it's supposed to be a CHICKEN. Your inattention to detail really gets my goat.

Oh my, no wonder it failed zzzzzz kk ima wait till this Friday with lunar eclipse my odds should go through the roof

"what goes up will come down"

[Otahaanak]

Best event was Tarlok, agreed.

The game itself has stayed the same for so long that people are just bored. STS points out that the event is upcoming, and yes, it's likely to spur activity - but, ONLY for the newest maps. The old maps are left to stagnate, along with their loot.

How about a redesign of Watcher's Tomb, or Kraken Mines? If nothing else, than to give the timed runners a new challenge, or at the least a change for those who grind kills day after day?

How hard would it be to swap up the loot tables? Add some things, remove others?

Add a rare drop to the loot tables of elite tindrin? or shuyl? or Nordr? Don't tell the community where, but tell us what and when it's available? A treasure hunt if you will. That would be nothing to do IMO. The weapon, or armor wouldn't have to be the best available, or game changing, just something that looked cool, or whatever. Heck even a vanity added to the loot table would be worth getting the community active and give them something to farm for. Running maps just for the sake of running maps - gets old after months of doing it.

What do we want? That question has been asked over and over ad nauseam. There are a ton of feedback threads over the last year - perhaps give those a quick read through.

Back on topic, I've gotten 1 super in the last week. I too have stopped crafting for the most part. I'm mind blown at how much plat has been used for simply crafting. I had no idea. I don't think I've spent more than 5-6 plat to finish a craft in a very long time.