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    Default End Game PvP losing it's touch?

    I've noticed "endgame" PvP is losing its touch. Str sets have become the best sets you can use, making it kinda boring. The reason, most of us already know, is str sets have beast dodge. Pure int on mages are strong but are worthless against an opponent who dodges everything, pure dex is the same way. A mage with a str set (pally) and vanity ring has about 40-45 dodge at all times. A bird with str set (warbird) and vanity ring has about 42-50 dodge at all times, max dodge skill buff puts them at about 80+ dodge. A bear with str set has about 44-50 dodge at all times, dodge skill maxed puts them at 75+ dodge. With dodge being the biggest factor in "endgame" PvP and CTF "skill" is no longer needed to play. Now that str sets have become the best sets for PvP and CTF, if you want to be any good and stay alive, int and dex sets are almost pointless. I understand that in some classes dodge is needed, but it almost seems like its being abused in a way now.



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    I couldn't agree more. All these lame players running around with strength sets are boring me. A good int mage and a dex bird could take me out. Learn to play your class and stop hiding behind a bear's set.

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    And if its crafted you just get duced on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yich View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnomecide View Post
    I couldn't agree more. All these lame players running around with strength sets are boring me. A good int mage and a dex bird could take me out. Learn to play your class and stop hiding behind a bear's set.
    Agreed

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    Its been this way for awhile, at least its a set now thats "op" not a single class using int gear like the last two caps.
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    Let it be known that I predicted the rise of strength gear before nuri's was released!

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    I hope they make pvp into serious consideration in the next cap

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    the only thing that would solve this is if they made it where classes could only use class specific items. at least in pvp and ctf
    Quote Originally Posted by Mage till the end View Post
    I hope they make pvp into serious consideration in the next cap
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    STS is having trouble scaling stats as the game gradually progresses. They need someone who can specialize with PvP and equal stats^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by XghostzX View Post
    STS is having trouble scaling stats as the game gradually progresses. They need someone who can specialize with PvP and equal stats^^
    I agree, i think pure dex bow birds have it the worst 85% of the time i 2 hit them and its over. just free kills which is boring
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    Pvp peaked at 56 and crashed after 61

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elyseon View Post
    Pvp peaked at 56 and crashed after 61
    My fav was 50
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    Quote Originally Posted by azefekie View Post
    the only thing that would solve this is if they made it where classes could only use class specific items. at least in pvp and ctf


    Actually that would worsen things significantly. In such a circumstance, it would be total bear domination due to the sheer power of the str set.




    The reason is very simple. Dodge is making an asymptotic approach closer to 100%. You can of course, give more and more skill or weapons damage, but at some point, the % stats will have an upper limit.

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    Not just the armors dodge, but the range of beckon. It's ridiculous. Especially is the bear is lagging.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnomecide:848908
    I couldn't agree more. All these lame players running around with strength sets are boring me. A good int mage and a dex bird could take me out. Learn to play your class and stop hiding behind a bear's set.

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    Mega blasters with aoe damage^^
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    the best solution is increasing health pool across the board or reduce all skill and base damadge significantly so it takes skill combo and a real good build to win vs 1 or 2 players. At a time.





    IN OTHER WORDS PVP NEEDS A REVAMP

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    i agree with you too a point, but i've always been a pure int mage and havent met a bear i cant kill. of course there are some bears i struggle with gladiator being one, but he was born OP so that doesnt count.
    Quote Originally Posted by WhoIsThis View Post
    Actually that would worsen things significantly. In such a circumstance, it would be total bear domination due to the sheer power of the str set.




    The reason is very simple. Dodge is making an asymptotic approach closer to 100%. You can of course, give more and more skill or weapons damage, but at some point, the % stats will have an upper limit.
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