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Appeltjes
07-30-2016, 08:14 AM
Installed the game again yesterday and decided to pick up a lvl 15 set but was to poor for a para but thought I would do fine untill seeing that there are now lvl 16 arcane weapons...

I am worried that arcane weapons completely gonna kill twinking around lvl 16 for anyone that isn't extremely rich, tank was already one of the only classes which was quite good if you couldn't afford a para but now you need 10 mill (?) to buy a weapon that makes any other weapons obsolete...

Can't really say that I like the decision to make arcane weapons useable at lower lvls.

Rockingtigertiger Tiger
07-30-2016, 09:03 AM
yo! bro,although i agree twink arcane weapons should have been introduced for all twink lvls but still its great work from sts devs !from long time twinks have demanded gear proggression with the introduction of arcane weapons which gives twinks hope of further more gear progresssion as twink got paid attention with arc weapons, rest the issue is of price of new arcane t weapons ofc its new stuff in the market and pretty hard to loot as well as drop rate is very low ofc with passage of time prices will drop but overall its great for twinks ,i hope soon we will have better gear then current ice set which has been around since 2014 winter event ,correct me if am wrong XD

Appeltjes
07-30-2016, 09:12 AM
I don't really mind the weapons only being for lvl 16+, I mostly find the price just insane, all the previous weapons which were improvements were event weapons which caused their price to stay relatively low which kept twinking accesible for the not to rich people, even the best legendary pets were event pets that didn't really cost a lot. Para gems were the only thing that separated the rich from the not so rich and already gave quite a big advantage.

Litheus
07-30-2016, 10:34 AM
if the twink needed gear progression doesnt mean they need arcane weapons...we twinks just need some item range to choose from...there are only 2-3 weapon and armour and ring for all twink levels...it would have been better if they released high level legendary like magma sets, etc to low level which gave comparable stats with the current weapons so twinks can have more options...with the arcane weapons twinks are not getting any weapon progression their options are more limited...there wil not be any weapon variability now...everyone will only go after one weapon...twinks need more options not just one universal gear for all...before arcanes people could choose between ss, galen, dev maul, etc...every weapon their own advantage but now only one...more limited in weapons...not even limited...there's just one option

iiy
07-30-2016, 01:19 PM
Its forever farmeable so its price gonna decrease easily

Appeltjes
07-30-2016, 04:31 PM
Oh god antiscrub @.@

Energizeric
07-31-2016, 01:11 AM
They just came out 2 days ago. Give it some time and the price will decrease.

Appeltjes
08-01-2016, 07:33 AM
They just came out 2 days ago. Give it some time and the price will decrease.

the price isn't gonna go down, the thing adds over 100 dmg compared to a galen on lvl 17 and is even better than lvl 26 weapons for tanks, thats a ton of levels it has to cover, it would take months for the price to go down even by a bit.

crudmudgeon
08-02-2016, 10:50 AM
Of course it goes down... dropping 1m every other day... will be 500k before u know it...
You shouldn't complain brand new awesome items are expensive... get to work and go farm one!

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Jestersoldier
08-02-2016, 11:26 AM
Of course it goes down... dropping 1m every other day... will be 500k before u know it...
You shouldn't complain brand new awesome items are expensive... get to work and go farm one!

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dropping 1m every day? you must be looking at a different auction than I am and "go farm one" most of the people I've seen drop an arcane chest ran for what? 5 minutes, I already ran for several hours so gl with farming one when it's full rng.

Jestersoldier
08-02-2016, 12:37 PM
imo well if these twink items were released @ years ago this twink item would have cost 50m honestly lol

okay, so?

they weren't released back then and they should've never gotten released, twinking was the only place were you could actually beat people when you were on a budget.

Jestersoldier
08-02-2016, 12:48 PM
first of, not having new gears for lower level is a bit selfish.


because there are new players that tries arcane legends everyday

and the game is growing...

i understand you in a way that sticking with your old equips for the longest time is always the best because it's practical and cost efficient.

but not all twinks can afford that new weap and if they do you can still count them with your fingers so if you see one and your hesitant to fight em then get out and join another map...


nobody is holding a gun in your head to fight a twink with a new arc weap.

So instead of new players being able to pick up a Galen or Storm sword for a couple 100k they should pick up a weapon that costs 8 mill, not to mention that if sts wanted gear to progress why did they then make a new weapon, the tarlok pendant is atm still the best pendant and that thing comes from the 2014 winter event, the weapons were already far more diverse than the pendants.

And if you actually played around this bracket (or simply entered paradise pier a couple of times) you would've noticed that there aren't a few people with arcane weapons, I've already seen 3 rogues and 5 tanks with the new weapons and I barely even log on anymore.

+there's nothing wrong with gear progressing but sts could've easily done it like they did in the past by making better gear in the upcoming halloween event.

Jestersoldier
08-02-2016, 01:28 PM
They might aswell kill people in one hit, over 100 damage compared to a galen is a gg.

And twinks are pvp characters, so why does sts have to ruin twink lvls so that endgamers have smthn to be active for...

Zeus
08-02-2016, 01:39 PM
How's this any different from the para gears that cost multiple millions? I don't quite understand. Forgive me if I don't. :D

Justg
08-02-2016, 01:52 PM
why does sts have to ruin twink lvls so that endgamers have smthn to be active for...

So dramatic! Check out this other thread about L16 PvP: http://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?365513-Twinks


16 is still pvpable without arcane, not a lot of people have them... and I've killed hooks players too. It's not that bad tbh, im a para rogue with maridos..


I agree with Lvst, you can still do very well in pvp at level 16 without an arcane weapon. Not many people have them, and the blades are especially easy to counter because they cant stun from a distance! But the best way to find out is to give it a try. Level 16 is going well and pvp is always fun!

So... maybe not ruined.

Justg
08-02-2016, 01:59 PM
How do u know for sure these aren't l16 arcane weapon users trying nott to derail a thread and keep an op weapon op.

Hint at how long did it take to find out that paras and eyes ruined gems so bad we needed a jewel system.

Because we play L16 on stealth characters both with and without the arcanes.

Appeltjes
08-02-2016, 02:21 PM
How's this any different from the para gears that cost multiple millions? I don't quite understand. Forgive me if I don't. :D

1 Para is enough on a set and that costs far less than an arcane weapon.

And for justg I would love seeing a dev kill this guy with 0/1 para's and no arcane weapon.
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"I agree with Lvst, you can still do very well in pvp at level 16 without an arcane weapon. Not many people have them, and the blades are especially easy to counter because they cant stun from a distance! But the best way to find out is to give it a try. Level 16 is going well and pvp is always fun!"

And when you quote someone it would be handy quoting someone who knows smthn about pvp, anyone that owns an arcane weapon will 100% have a Nekro to stun from a distance (and also will be impossible to be stopped from closing in)+ shadow pierce is very common in rogue builds at 16 so closing in on an enemy to stun him should not be hard at all.

Appeltjes
08-02-2016, 02:35 PM
honestly even a player with the most OP items can be killed by a player with skills...

if your not confident with your skills then you rely on the most OP items...


and if you don't know how to balance you stats a person can rip you like paper in pvp room...


in short what im trying to stay if you have skills...

you can kill that player with an arcane weapon

P.S i found a player with a better stats than his and he is only level 10

a lvl 10 can impossibly have over 300 damage unless he has a ton of buffs+damage elixir or is a dev

and with para vs no para it was easy to kill people that were money>skill but you can't outdamage a weapon that gives such a huge stat buff...

Downwithnotts
08-02-2016, 02:52 PM
I dont think these weapons shouldve been released at all, i dont think twinking should exist at all.

CouchPass
08-02-2016, 03:20 PM
How do u know for sure these aren't l16 arcane weapon users trying nott to derail a thread and keep an op weapon op.

Hint at how long did it take to find out that paras and eyes ruined gems so bad we needed a jewel system.

I told you im a para rogue with maridos ,_, to clarify I dont have hooks

CouchPass
08-02-2016, 03:26 PM
1 Para is enough on a set and that costs far less than an arcane weapon.

And for justg I would love seeing a dev kill this guy with 0/1 para's and no arcane weapon.
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"I agree with Lvst, you can still do very well in pvp at level 16 without an arcane weapon. Not many people have them, and the blades are especially easy to counter because they cant stun from a distance! But the best way to find out is to give it a try. Level 16 is going well and pvp is always fun!"

And when you quote someone it would be handy quoting someone who knows smthn about pvp, anyone that owns an arcane weapon will 100% have a Nekro to stun from a distance (and also will be impossible to be stopped from closing in)+ shadow pierce is very common in rogue builds at 16 so closing in on an enemy to stun him should not be hard at all.

You could disagree more politely, I do pvp at 16, and have been switching between 16 and 23 for years :). I have been around at 16 when Talon was OP, and bonechills ruled.. Don't attack someone without knowing what their saying.. thanks.
Besides the time it takes to charge hooks, is either enough time to get away or use nekro aa.. I also know some rogues using razor in their specs
Trust me, I know how OP hooks are, but thats what you get for farming for hours or paying 10 mil..

Mauls are hard to kill epsescially with proc, and almost impossible if they jugg.. but its called ARCANE for a reason. Only a few tanks have maul, and you can still kill them by stunning or crits. Mage arcane sucks lmao.. thats not a problem to anyone.

If you think this is bad, see at lvl 26-27 when a rogue with devourer versus a rouge with hooks LOL

PS: You can obviously see this guy paid crap loads of money for his gear... You can;t be OP for free bro, this tank was probably pretty good before maul too..

resurrected
08-02-2016, 03:32 PM
Just some good news that price dropped from 10m to 6m since they are available.

Strohhut
08-02-2016, 03:54 PM
Imo twink is totally ruined at this lvl around. I do not see a big difference between a maxed lvl16 rogue with hooks and a lvl41 rogue. A maxed lvl16 hooks rogue can EASILY 1 combo now any other rogue. This should not be like that. Back then it was skill>item, that was the sense of being a twink, Skill>item>money. The feeling being a twink is totally ruined, IMO.

Zeus
08-02-2016, 04:03 PM
Price will keep dropping, don't worry. People are forgetting that these maps are also run by new players as well. Literally everybody in the game can loot these, so prices will drop with time and this thread will not be that relevant.

butterspar
08-02-2016, 06:35 PM
1 Para is enough on a set and that costs far less than an arcane weapon.

And for justg I would love seeing a dev kill this guy with 0/1 para's and no arcane weapon.
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butterspar
08-02-2016, 06:38 PM
honestly even a player with the most OP items can be killed by a player with skills...

if your not confident with your skills then you rely on the most OP items...


and if you don't know how to balance you stats a person can rip you like paper in pvp room...


in short what im trying to stay if you have skills...

you can kill that player with an arcane weapon

P.S i found a player with a better stats than his and he is only level 10

I can tell you, It's Impossible to get better stats than that without buffs (Add 5 str more cause I'm still missing 1 fury jewel in Hammer) or a Mm slotted into your pet. I'm fully fort fury in that photo, 1 Para, with 4 points into passive Str. I don't know what you saw But it wasn't any better than those

BlueSkied
08-03-2016, 06:51 AM
why use most paper tank at 17 to show stats smh

JesuisCharlie
08-03-2016, 07:15 AM
Before i stoped play AL after the 2-3 seasons i played PL from the begining like 2months after the 2010 release then SL and DL. I spend incredible times on those games when i was younger bc i never got a pc or a Playstation and i hadnt vacations. I easily spend more than one year of play in addition.
Then i stoped and deleted acc so i was sure i wll never go back again.. I only kept a pvp rogue lvl16 for fun. So why lvl 16? Because the logic is lvl 16.
There is no logic to pvp lvl 15-17 unless you have gears at these lvls.

Alexandr_Leopardiks
08-03-2016, 07:15 AM
why use most paper tank at 17 to show stats smh

Ahahah Bravo! XD

butterspar
08-03-2016, 07:51 PM
why use most paper tank at 17 to show stats smh

I'll kill you eventually ;-;

Thaze
08-03-2016, 11:39 PM
"I agree with Lvst, you can still do very well in pvp at level 16 without an arcane weapon. Not many people have them, and the blades are especially easy to counter because they cant stun from a distance! But the best way to find out is to give it a try. Level 16 is going well and pvp is always fun!"

And when you quote someone it would be handy quoting someone who knows smthn about pvp, anyone that owns an arcane weapon will 100% have a Nekro to stun from a distance (and also will be impossible to be stopped from closing in)+ shadow pierce is very common in rogue builds at 16 so closing in on an enemy to stun him should not be hard at all.

So you havent played level 16?

butterspar
08-03-2016, 11:46 PM
So you havent played level 16?

He's played at 15 for a while

Appeltjes
08-04-2016, 12:01 PM
So you havent played level 16?

pretty sure I've played at this bracket longer than u have since I've never even seen someone with the name twinka.

Thaze
08-04-2016, 12:08 PM
Whatever you say ^_^

CouchPass
08-04-2016, 12:51 PM
pretty sure I've played at this bracket longer than u have since I've never even seen someone with the name twinka.

Twinkas been around for a pretty long time, and I'm sure you wouldnt be complaining if you looted/bought arc wep:

Threads name would be "Thanks STS!" instead lmao.

Appeltjes
08-04-2016, 01:12 PM
Twinkas been around for a pretty long time, and I'm sure you wouldnt be complaining if you looted/bought arc wep:

Threads name would be "Thanks STS!" instead lmao.

Then he should really become more active cause I haven't seen his name after having spend over a year at 15.

Litheus
08-04-2016, 02:24 PM
arcanes wont be a problem to acquire because their prices will drop prety quickly

Thaze
08-04-2016, 05:26 PM
Ah i took about a year and a half break from level 15/16, but im online all the time now, feel free to pm me.

Lawpvp
08-04-2016, 09:47 PM
15-16s are food that cry about lvl even tho us 17s have 0 problem farming 18-19s.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9fTkrb5NHUI

Im glad this weapon, along with jewels has closed the gap in stats even further giving them less of an excuse.

Hence y butterspar's ign is Cryaboutlvl