5v5 CTF SUMMER BASH TOURNAMENT (Lv. 105)

[XghostzX]

Hey everyone,

First off, I want to apologize to everyone. It is ultimately my responsibility to keep the tournament clean, to facilitate as much fun and healthy competition as possible, and I have utterly failed to do that. When I made the decision that any of the current teams could schedule a match with one another, it perhaps was out of a lot of frustration, but mostly it was out of a strong ambition to let everyone have a go at the participation shields. The tournament would not have been possible had there have not been an opportunity for a participation shield for everyone to earn.

It was important to me that everyone play at least one match to earn their participation shield. Taking that away from players who have put in a tremendous amount of time was incredibly disheartening to me. But I knew that granting shields to participants even for being disqualified would result in even more controversy – I really had no desire to perpetuate more arguments, more toxicity; however, that has already surfaced on the forums, on both sides of the argument (including myself). Hence, my premature decision to let the current teams schedule matches with anyone was one of frustration, and the constant pressure to speed the tournament up (in the sense that, I wasn't going to wait another week just to hear everyone's input). There were many external forces and circumstances, and above anything else, I really was just trying my best to balance it all.

But as I said, I failed with that.

Here is what I'm going to propose:

Matches are going to continue through the original bracket. That is, Family will play Reborn, and Betrayed will play Restoration II. All teams, however, will receive a participation shield even if they are disqualified. I believe this will restore some peace and harmony to the controversy that has surfaced. Additionally, to keep the spirit of competition maintained, a first place prize shield will be given to the winning team, in addition to the participation shield.

To the teams that have tricky timezones (and I will be sending you individual PMs to express this in more detail), I am really sorry for all of this. You guys are all important to me, and I realize there will be some angry players, and I fully deserve any resentment that's thrown at me. It's really important to me that, after all the time you have invested into this, that you are awarded with participation shields, irrespective of being disqualified. Believe me, I care about everyone here – that's what keeps PL thriving for me. But I'm going to really motivate and push you guys to get those matches in. There is still time!

To reiterate once more, I'm sorry to everyone for all the controversy. I don't think I am really fit to host tournaments after the way I handled this one. A lot of pent up frustration mixed with an overwhelming amount of coarse, uncivilized commentary did get the best of me. At the end of the day, the most important thing to me is the way we treat is each other.

[Absolize]

Hey everyone,

First off, I want to apologize to everyone. It is ultimately my responsibility to keep the tournament clean, to facilitate as much fun and healthy competition as possible, and I have utterly failed to do that. When I made the decision that any of the current teams could schedule a match with one another, it perhaps was out of a lot of frustration, but mostly it was out of a strong ambition to let everyone have a go at the participation shields. The tournament would not have been possible had there have not been an opportunity for a participation shield for everyone to earn.

It was important to me that everyone play at least one match to earn their participation shield. Taking that away from players who have put in a tremendous amount of time was incredibly disheartening to me. But I knew that granting shields to participants even for being disqualified would result in even more controversy – I really had no desire to perpetuate more arguments, more toxicity; however, that has already surfaced on the forums, on both sides of the argument (including myself). Hence, my premature decision to let the current teams schedule matches with anyone was one of frustration, and the constant pressure to speed the tournament up (in the sense that, I wasn't going to wait another week just let hear everyone's input). There were many external forces and circumstances, and above anything else, I really was just trying my best to balance it all.

But as I said, I failed with that.

Here is what I'm going to propose:

Matches are going to continue through the original bracket. That is, Family will play Reborn, and Betrayed will play Restoration II. All teams, however, will receive a participation shield even if they are disqualified. I believe this will restore some peace and harmony to the controversy that has surfaced. Additionally, to keep the spirit of competition maintained, a first place prize shield will be given to the winning team, in addition to the participation shield.

To the teams that have tricky timezones (and I will be sending you individual PMs to express this in more detail), I am really sorry for all of this. You guys are all important to me, and I realize there will be some angry players, and I fully deserve any resentment that's thrown at me. It's really important to me that, after all the time you have invested into this, that you are awarded with participation shields, irrespective of being disqualified. Believe me, I care about everyone here – that's what keeps PL thriving for me. But I'm going to really motivate and push you guys to get those matches in. There is still time!

To reiterate once more, I'm sorry to everyone for all the controversy. I don't think I am really fit to host tournaments after the way I handled this one. A lot of pent up frustration mixed with an overwhelming amount of coarse, uncivilized commentary did get the best of me. At the end of the day, the most important thing to me is the way we treat is each other.

Well said, and I do not mind players that get disqualified getting participation shields, that’s why many signed up for this particular tournament. I feel like people who even put time and got a team together can get a participation shield without an issue, and keep the original bracket. This is a good way to stop all the commotion. Well done.

[Mine AGK]

Hey everyone,

First off, I want to apologize to everyone. It is ultimately my responsibility to keep the tournament clean, to facilitate as much fun and healthy competition as possible, and I have utterly failed to do that. When I made the decision that any of the current teams could schedule a match with one another, it perhaps was out of a lot of frustration, but mostly it was out of a strong ambition to let everyone have a go at the participation shields. The tournament would not have been possible had there have not been an opportunity for a participation shield for everyone to earn.

It was important to me that everyone play at least one match to earn their participation shield. Taking that away from players who have put in a tremendous amount of time was incredibly disheartening to me. But I knew that granting shields to participants even for being disqualified would result in even more controversy – I really had no desire to perpetuate more arguments, more toxicity; however, that has already surfaced on the forums, on both sides of the argument (including myself). Hence, my premature decision to let the current teams schedule matches with anyone was one of frustration, and the constant pressure to speed the tournament up (in the sense that, I wasn't going to wait another week just let hear everyone's input). There were many external forces and circumstances, and above anything else, I really was just trying my best to balance it all.

But as I said, I failed with that.

Here is what I'm going to propose:

Matches are going to continue through the original bracket. That is, Family will play Reborn, and Betrayed will play Restoration II. All teams, however, will receive a participation shield even if they are disqualified. I believe this will restore some peace and harmony to the controversy that has surfaced. Additionally, to keep the spirit of competition maintained, a first place prize shield will be given to the winning team, in addition to the participation shield.

To the teams that have tricky timezones (and I will be sending you individual PMs to express this in more detail), I am really sorry for all of this. You guys are all important to me, and I realize there will be some angry players, and I fully deserve any resentment that's thrown at me. It's really important to me that, after all the time you have invested into this, that you are awarded with participation shields, irrespective of being disqualified. Believe me, I care about everyone here – that's what keeps PL thriving for me. But I'm going to really motivate and push you guys to get those matches in. There is still time!

To reiterate once more, I'm sorry to everyone for all the controversy. I don't think I am really fit to host tournaments after the way I handled this one. A lot of pent up frustration mixed with an overwhelming amount of coarse, uncivilized commentary did get the best of me. At the end of the day, the most important thing to me is the way we treat is each other.

I understand frustration but it is nice to see that all teams that entered into the tourney will be recieving participation shields. Its great to see that the matches will resort to the original matches that was supposed to be played.

[Holyfuryzz]

Hey everyone,

First off, I want to apologize to everyone. It is ultimately my responsibility to keep the tournament clean, to facilitate as much fun and healthy competition as possible, and I have utterly failed to do that. When I made the decision that any of the current teams could schedule a match with one another, it perhaps was out of a lot of frustration, but mostly it was out of a strong ambition to let everyone have a go at the participation shields. The tournament would not have been possible had there have not been an opportunity for a participation shield for everyone to earn.

It was important to me that everyone play at least one match to earn their participation shield. Taking that away from players who have put in a tremendous amount of time was incredibly disheartening to me. But I knew that granting shields to participants even for being disqualified would result in even more controversy – I really had no desire to perpetuate more arguments, more toxicity; however, that has already surfaced on the forums, on both sides of the argument (including myself). Hence, my premature decision to let the current teams schedule matches with anyone was one of frustration, and the constant pressure to speed the tournament up (in the sense that, I wasn't going to wait another week just let hear everyone's input). There were many external forces and circumstances, and above anything else, I really was just trying my best to balance it all.

But as I said, I failed with that.

Here is what I'm going to propose:

Matches are going to continue through the original bracket. That is, Family will play Reborn, and Betrayed will play Restoration II. All teams, however, will receive a participation shield even if they are disqualified. I believe this will restore some peace and harmony to the controversy that has surfaced. Additionally, to keep the spirit of competition maintained, a first place prize shield will be given to the winning team, in addition to the participation shield.

To the teams that have tricky timezones (and I will be sending you individual PMs to express this in more detail), I am really sorry for all of this. You guys are all important to me, and I realize there will be some angry players, and I fully deserve any resentment that's thrown at me. It's really important to me that, after all the time you have invested into this, that you are awarded with participation shields, irrespective of being disqualified. Believe me, I care about everyone here – that's what keeps PL thriving for me. But I'm going to really motivate and push you guys to get those matches in. There is still time!

To reiterate once more, I'm sorry to everyone for all the controversy. I don't think I am really fit to host tournaments after the way I handled this one. A lot of pent up frustration mixed with an overwhelming amount of coarse, uncivilized commentary did get the best of me. At the end of the day, the most important thing to me is the way we treat is each other.

The frustration is clear and understood.. with wholehearted empathy in inconvenient circumstance, I do thank you. I know that it's not easy being at the top of it all and meeting the requests of the people. Thank you for allowing the brackets to remain in their original structure. We will try our hardest to get our match in with team Family and continue healthy and fun competition in game. Once again, a big thank you; sorry for the in game inconveniences and circumstances that stem from competition and scheduling!

[Draebatad]

Ghost - don't be hard on yourself - this 5v5 tourney is very challenging and your goals are honorable. I want to make it clear that your love, time and effort to organize fun pvp events are fully appreciated! It is a lot of work, and it is not easy. I think your proposal to keep the team assignments the same and to offer everyone participation shields is very fair and caring. I will reply more fully shortly. Thank you so much for hosting.

Edit: Everyone be sure to thank Ghost's reply if you've got any thanks left! <3

[Iamxmayhem]

You sir, just utterly earned my respect. I’m astonished tbh . I thank you for taking your time to read concerns and go with the best possible solution following tournament rules. Hell yeah much love.

[Fwend]

Another tough but fair decision.

I do hope this tournament hosting experience does not deter you from continuing to be as passionate about the game.

The PL community needs more helpful, positive, role models such as yourself willing to organise competition's like this.

All the pvp tournaments, have revived pvp for those levels coordinated. During the guild pvp event, many where using the arena of honor.

I'm thankful the comments are now more peaceful and loving. Every one has a right to an opinion, but there are other ways to express your concerns when you don't agree on matters.

I hope these positive comments will continue to flood this thread and it is all about the love of the game and pvp/ctf and just having a fun time.

[Draebatad]

Shout out to team family. Team reborn is looking to schedule their match with you all. Please feel free to contact any of our team members to discuss an agreeable match date and time.

[nenany]

After discussion with team family, we all are willing to play at 7h pm friday 27th july central day light time (sts) time

It will mean two of our members have to play at 2am and another has to play at 5pm during his work hours.

But that is agreed on considering.

Reborn are not avaiable during the day times on weekends

[Holyfuryzz]

Team Family,

All five Reborn team members have agreed to a 7pm central time (sts time) match on Friday July 27th. We look forward to our match with you guys. Best of luck! See you all then.

Kind regards, Holyfuryzzz

[XghostzX]

Team Family,

All five Reborn team members have agreed to a 7pm central time (sts time) match on Friday July 27th. We look forward to our match with you guys. Best of luck! See you all then.

Kind regards, Holyfuryzzz

That's awesome, I'm stoked you guys might be able to get this in. Good luck to both teams!

[Draebatad]

That's awesome, I'm stoked you guys might be able to get this in. Good luck to both teams!

Yeah!

Definitely want to see Restoration II and Betrayed get their match in, too. You guys need any help scheduling? If any of us can assist in any way, then please let us know, we will try to help.

[Dolloway]

Resto II and Betrayed don't look like they're getting their match in by Sunday as of right now unless some miracle happens between now and then.

It's probably going to come down to a disqualification unfortunately.

[Draebatad]

Congratulations to team Reborn for another win!

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[Holyfuryzz]

Congratulations to team Reborn for another win!

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Great game guys!! A well played and fun match, good game team Family!

[XghostzX]

Looks like a fun game, really glad you guys were able to get it in!

Reborn advances :)

[Iamxmayhem]

From reading yalls previous posts holy, I seen that y’all are free on weekend days after 8pm. That should be no problem for us , infact we could do the match tonight after 8pm if y’all are comfortable with that. I’ll see if my guys are down

[Absolize]

Shout out Reborn

Team Apex is available to do our semi-finals match if everyone on your team is available from 8-9pm EST tonight we can start. I have your team captain on my friends list already so since you guys are available after 8pm on weekends, this should be no problem.

@Holyfuryzz - Be sure to let me know either in game when I’m online, or here on the forums if this is okay for your team!

-Hook

[Mine AGK]

[QUOTE=Absolize;2851616]Shout out Reborn

Team Apex is available to do our semi-finals match if everyone on your team is available from 8-9pm EST tonight we can start. I have your team captain on my friends list already so since you guys are available after 8pm on weekends, this should be no problem.

@Holyfuryzz - Be sure to let me know either in game when I’m online, or here on the forums if this is okay for your team!

-Hook[
We currently cannot have our match till next week. One of our players will be on vacation till the 5th. After that, we will be more then happy discuss getting our match in.

[Absolize]

We currently cannot have our match till next week on Sunday or Monday night. One of our players will be on vacation till the 5th. After that, we will be more then happy to get our match in.

Next Sunday may be the deadline I’m not sure.

[Iamxmayhem]

We are available on more than just the weekends so. If y’all get a date before next weekend let us know here or in game.

[Absolize]

Yes we’re available any time pretty much.

[Draebatad]

As already stated, one of the team members of Reborn is on vacation until the 5th. Discussions regarding your matches will take place after that player returns from vacation.

[Absolize]

As already stated, one of the team members of Reborn is on vacation until the 5th. Discussions regarding your matches will take place after that player returns from vacation.

Yeah well if the deadline is next Sunday (just guessing because that’s what Will has been doing) then we will have to make sure you guys can get it done that night, around 8-9pm EST would suffice.

[XghostzX]

Next Sunday may be the deadline I’m not sure.

I'm happy to extend the deadline if you guys could try to work out some rough times!

[Absolize]

I'm happy to extend the deadline if you guys could try to work out some rough times!

You may not have to, I think we can get it done the day of! But I’ll for sure let you know if my team runs into difficulties! :)

[XghostzX]

You may not have to, I think we can get it done the day of! But I’ll for sure let you know if my team runs into difficulties! :)

Sounds good, again, very happy to extend if needed!

[Mine AGK]

Sounds good, again, very happy to extend if needed!

Depending on how our player is feeling when he gets back, we will let you know if we need extension. Though we are definitely more then eager to get our match in, just down a player for a bit.

[Holyfuryzz]

Due to shared time zones with Team Apex, scheduling should run a lot smoother. We'll keep you guys posted.

[XghostzX]

Unfortunately the deadline is up, and that means I have to set the foot down and disqualify a team.

I am going to have to disqualify Betrayed.

Based off of what I have seen, both Restoration II and Betrayed have put in effort to get their matches in. Making this decision isn't easy, and I know Betrayed members will be disappointed.

At the end of the day, Betrayed members have the trickiest time zones to schedule with, and I am afraid that if they move forward, they will continue to have issues scheduling matches (and the same issue we had not too long ago will persist).

Betrayed members will still receive a participation shield.

Good luck to the final four teams remaining, I wish you all the best of luck. Compete hard, be good sports, and have fun!

[Raararaba]

It is sad that my team was disqualified without being able to play even a single match. Because our opponents were busy and had no time to play this weekend.

However, Team Betrayed do understand and accept the difficult decision and appreciate a participation vanity shield.

Anyway, I wish you all the best of luck, and thank you Ghost for hosting this tourney!

[Absolize]

Ghost,

From what I found out with Reborns availability only being after this weekend, unfortunately, the deadline may have to be pushed up to Monday, one of my teammates has to work Sunday so considering that we may have to extend the deadline, unless Reborn can be more flexible. Just let us know

Thanks

[XghostzX]

Ghost,

From what I found out with Reborns availability only being after this weekend, unfortunately, the deadline may have to be pushed up to Monday, one of my teammates has to work Sunday so considering that we may have to extend the deadline, unless Reborn can be more flexible. Just let us know

Thanks

I am more than happy extending the deadline, not a problem at all. I trust that you guys are eager to get this match in and will put in as much effort needed to do so :)

It's possible the same will go for our Restoration match.

[Absolize]

I am more than happy extending the deadline, not a problem at all. I trust that you guys are eager to get this match in and will put in as much effort needed to do so :)

Appreciate that buddy, just waiting on Reborn as of now that’s all I can tell you :)

[Draebatad]

the deadline may have to be pushed up to Monday, one of my teammates has to work Sunday so considering that we may have to extend the deadline, unless Reborn can be more flexible.


As already stated, one of the team members of Reborn is on vacation until the 5th. Discussions regarding your matches will take place after that player returns from vacation.

This isn't about flexibility being an option. Match isn't happening as a 5v4 with one of Reborn's team members on vacation. However once the full team is available, you better believe you're going to be in for a competitive match.

And thank you @ghost.

[Congeniality]

This isn't about flexibility being an option. Match isn't happening as a 5v4 with one of Reborn's team members on vacation. However once the full team is available, you better believe you're going to be in for a competitive match.

And thank you @ghost.

That was unnecessarily aggressive. I'm sorry for Hook and the rest of his team having to take that kind of backlash for scheduling a match.

[Absolize]

This isn't about flexibility being an option. Match isn't happening as a 5v4 with one of Reborn's team members on vacation. However once the full team is available, you better believe you're going to be in for a competitive match.

And thank you @ghost.

Only being available on weekends, and not available this weekend, flexibility does come into play under those conditions considering my team is available throughout the entire week. But since Ghost is going to extended the deadline, how is Monday (8/6/18) @8pm EST work for you guys?

And also, looking forward to a good match!

[Draebatad]

Ghost is going to extended the deadline, how is Monday (8/6/18) @8pm EST work for you guys?

Match scheduling can be discussed once the member returns from vacation on the 5th. There's no contact between them until he returns.

[Absolize]

That was unnecessarily aggressive. I'm sorry for Hook and the rest of his team having to take that kind of backlash for scheduling a match.

It’s okay buddy, just wanna get it done is all :)

[Idevour]

This isn't about flexibility being an option. Match isn't happening as a 5v4 with one of Reborn's team members on vacation. However once the full team is available, you better believe you're going to be in for a competitive match.

And thank you @ghost.

Ya watch out drae is a highly competitve pvper. He has years of experience sitting in towns that has helped him master the strategiies of patience and timing in the arena.

[Draebatad]

That was unnecessarily aggressive. I'm sorry for Hook and the rest of his team having to take that kind of backlash for scheduling a match.

You're mistaken. No aggression on this end. Hook knows already from a few days ago that 1. Ghost will extend if needed, and 2. Reborn is eager to get their match in as soon as their team mate is back from vacation, and that discussions regarding scheduling will take place then and only then. There's no need to keep antagonizing or to expect "flexibility" (ie a 5v4 to happen). Scheduling discussions can be revisited on the evening of the 5th. Thanks.

[Iamxmayhem]

lol.. at first he says he isn’t in the tournament . But turns out he is ice, I’m confused at why he wanted this to be a secret.

[Iamxmayhem]

And drae. Hook was simply stating that I’ll be at work Sunday. It wasn’t up for discussion. Was just an appeal for a extention of the match to Monday ty ghost.

[Absolize]

You're mistaken. No aggression on this end. Hook knows already from a few days ago that 1. Ghost will extend if needed, and 2. Reborn is eager to get their match in as soon as their team mate is back from vacation, and that discussions regarding scheduling will take place then and only then. There's no need to keep antagonizing or to expect "flexibility" (ie a 5v4 to happen). Scheduling discussions can be revisited on the evening of the 5th. Thanks.

I didn’t think you was being aggresive, but now I can see you are. I’m just trying to get the match to happen, stop coming at me crazy, considering your team is at fault for us not being able to make the deadline, not ours. I came here trying to get the match done, let’s not start controversy.

[Draebatad]

There's nothing aggressive about restating facts we already know as of a few days ago. Bringing this all up again before the member is back from vacation, while knowing ghost will extend, was unnecessary at the very least. :) good luck in your match.

[Iamxmayhem]

In our match* I’m confused lol

[Absolize]

There's nothing aggressive about restating facts we already know as of a few days ago. Bringing this all up again before the member is back from vacation, while knowing ghost will extend, was unnecessary at the very least. :) good luck in your match.

You’re clearly stating in an aggressive manor, I’m just trying to make the deadline.

Good luck in OUR match. :)

[Holyfuryzz]

No controversy. No confusion. As soon as our missing teammate is back. We'll get back to you guys (Team Apex) so we can get that match in as soon as a availability makes it possible.

This match will without a doubt happen sooner or later. It's all a matter of time. The good thing is we've got shared time zones; so the day we get our missing teammate back, we'll let you know, so that you can wrap up any finishing touches on your team, or if ready at that time, we have the match.

This match is for sure happening. There should be no aggression from either team. Aggression is and should be irrelevant when what we all as pvpers truly crave is competition.

Again, it's all a matter of time. I'll definitely keep you guys posted as to when our soonest availability comes up!

[Absolize]

No controversy. No confusion. As soon as our missing teammate is back. We'll get back to you guys (Team Apex) so we can get that match in as soon as a availability makes it possible.

This match will without a doubt happen sooner or later. It's all a matter of time. The good thing is we've got shared time zones; so the day we get our missing teammate back, we'll let you know, so that you can wrap up any finishing touches on your team, or if ready at that time, we have the match.

This match is for sure happening. There should be no aggression from either team. Aggression is and should be irrelevant when what we all as pvpers truly crave is competition.

Again, it's all a matter of time. I'll definitely keep you guys posted as to when our soonest availability comes up!

I wasn’t being aggresive at all, just was trying to make something happen. But clearly, your teammate felt it was nessasary to come at me in an aggressive manner for whatever reason. But yeah, I’m definitely looking forward to it dude! Your teammate comes back the 5th, so, just let me know about Monday (8/6/18) @8pm EST.

Thanks. :)

[Dolloway]

I expect the tournament to wrap up within the next 7-10 days or less based on what I've heard. Goodluck to all those remaining in the tournament!

[XghostzX]

I expect the tournament to wrap up within the next 7-10 days or less based on what I've heard. Goodluck to all those remaining in the tournament!

If there are any updates to the 2H weapons, I will go ahead and make changes to the tournament if necessary (although I don't suspect it will be an issue in the first place).

[Absolize]

If there are any updates to the 2H weapons, I will go ahead and make changes to the tournament if necessary (although I don't suspect it will be an issue in the first place).

Should be done before the update is out, shouldn’t be an issue to finish it up in a week max

[XghostzX]

Should be done before the update is out, shouldn’t be an issue to finish it up in a week max

I think history has proven that these matches often take more time than as expected, but we shall see. I sure do hope so!

[Absolize]

I think history has proven that these matches often take more time than as expected, but we shall see. I sure do hope so!

Yeah, agreed. There’s been enough events/changes that held this tournament up long enough 😂

[Absolize]

Reborn,

Anything regarding our match tomorrow at 8pm EST? Is that cool or?

[Holyfuryzz]

Yeah well if the deadline is next Sunday (just guessing because that’s what Will has been doing) then we will have to make sure you guys can get it done that night, around 8-9pm EST would suffice.

Apex, our missing teammate is back and we can get our match in tonight. However we do understand Sundays are days for rest, family, possibly even work.

We can be ready for action tonight at 10pm Eastern time. How's that work out for you guys?

[Absolize]

Apex, our missing teammate is back and we can get our match in tonight. However we do understand Sundays are days for rest, family, possibly even work.

We can be ready for action tonight at 10pm Eastern time. How's that work out for you guys?

Unfortunately, that will not work for us. One of my teammates are at work until 7am, but we are all available 8-9pm EST on Monday if you guys can?

[Iamxmayhem]

As I’ve stated plenty of times , I work EMS, I can play at work (with lag) but the lag doesn’t worry me. If I get a 911 call, it’s game over. Plus the original discussion as stated by your teammate “drae” aka “ice”, we’d discuss a match time when your player returned. Asking for 10 pm last minute today is a no go from us. Monday is a more suitable option. 8-10pm , which ever time between 8-10 suits you best .

[Mine AGK]

As I’ve stated plenty of times , I work EMS, I can play at work (with lag) but the lag doesn’t worry me. If I get a 911 call, it’s game over. Plus the original discussion as stated by your teammate “drae” aka “ice”, we’d discuss a match time when your player returned. Asking for 10 pm last minute today is a no go from us. Monday is a more suitable option. 8-10pm , which ever time between 8-10 suits you best .

Not once did you mention you were an EMS to any of my teamates. Dont forget, your team was the first to suggest sunday because of the deadline. Ghost is more then willing to add extension. We cant do tomorrow or even tuesday. One teamate works 1 job in the morning and then family obligations in the evening on monday. Tuesday one of our teamates has to sleep early due to having to be up early. We are more then happy to ask for an extension from ghost. Trust me when i say, our whole team is eager to grt our match in. Just slight complicatioms is the issue right now.

[Iamxmayhem]

Plenty of times on this very forum thread. And ghost previously agreed to an extension FYI. If you back track a page or two. And I’m sure you are very eager . As are we, being that we are posting several different dates opposed to the very few y’all are appealing to. And no one agreed to sunday. Your members argued stating we’d discuss a match after the 5th stated by drae himself. The “suggestion” for Sunday was a maybe according to y’all for the return of your teammate. And like I said we are free anywhere from 7-11pm tomorrow . If that will not work, nor Tuesday . Then Wednesday is also an option. And I wake up at 4-5 am 4/7 days of the week for a 24 hour shift and I sacrifice 30 minutes of my time for a match easily 8-10

[Mine AGK]

Plenty of times on this very forum thread. And ghost previously agreed to an extension FYI. If you back track a page or two. And I’m sure you are very eager . As are we, being that we are posting several different dates opposed to the very few y’all are appealing to. And no one agreed to sunday. Your members argued stating we’d discuss a match after the 5th stated by drae himself. The “suggestion” for Sunday was a maybe according to y’all for the return of your teammate. And like I said we are free anywhere from 7-11pm tomorrow . If that will not work, nor Tuesday . Then Wednesday is also an option. And I wake up at 4-5 am 4/7 days of the week for a 24 hour shift and I sacrifice 30 minutes of my time for a match easily 8-10

Your whole team continued to suggest times BEFORE our teamate had returned. We had stated 3 times that we would not be discussing times until they returned. He has returned and its a simple discussion to get times in. We are open to an exntension and ready to get our fight int with haste. Though these small complications are no big deal as of now. If all else fails, the weekends are always best for all teams in tourneys. We will keep you updated for wedsnday, ill make sure to let the team know and see if they are available.

[Absolize]

Monday at 8pm EST everyone, be there and let’s get it done.

[Iamxmayhem]

So basically team reborn isn’t availible unless it’s a weekend day and 9-10pm. Lol. You have to be more flexible than just weekends. We were ready all week and waited for y’all. No more playing on your terms. Sacrifice 30 minutes of sleep to play tomorrow night 7-10 pm. Simple.. or even Tuesday. This match isn’t going to take 2-3 hours. May not even take 35minutes

[plpr]

Monday at 8pm EST everyone, be there and let’s get it done.
Tonight 10est lets get it done.

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[Absolize]

Tomorrow, 8pm EST, works for us. Considering you guys weren’t available all week, and we aren’t available for one day, tomorrow will do. It’s only fair that if my team has a complication you guys should understand and accept it, let’s do it tomorrow at 8pm EST.

[plpr]

Tomorrow, 8pm EST, works for us. Considering you guys weren’t available all week, and we aren’t available for one day, tomorrow will do. It’s only fair that if my team has a complication you guys should understand and accept it, let’s do it tomorrow at 8pm EST.
Sorry bud you don't schedule times for other people.

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[Absolize]

Sorry bud you don't schedule times for other people.

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Sorry bud, but your team wasn’t available until deadline was over.

[Iamxmayhem]

Coming from the one trying to last minute schedule a match for tonight ? Yall werent availible for a week . And try to last minute schedule for tonight , being that again after today, y’all wont be availible for a week.

[Idevour]

I dont think a dealine for this round has been announced

[Iamxmayhem]

That’s what I’m trying to explain . Ghost previously agreed like 2 pages back on an extension. They’re stating “they’ll” ask for an extension as if one wasn’t already given.

[Absolize]

Maybe not, but figuring just like every other round it would be the Sunday after. And Reborn wasn’t available and now pushing us to do the match tonight when one of our teammates is working, we waiting all week for you guys. You should respect the one day we can’t play.

[Mine AGK]

Sorry bud, but your team wasn’t available until deadline was over.

Deadlines are every sunday or every other sunday. We are ready for tonight. You have a teamate that has to work. We are more then ready tonight and are within the deadline if it was set this sunday. As we have said, we are more then willing to ask for extended deadline. I just contantacted my team and another play works on Wednesday so that is a no go. We can always do weekends which is best for all teams in any tourney. What could be easier is if we schedule for one of the weekend days, we can possibly complete semi and finals in the same weekend.

It seems tonight/monday/tuesday/wednesday are off the table. @ghost extension for sunday please. After that, you are more then welcome do DQ to whom you see fit.

[Iamxmayhem]

Nah bro it’s cool, we’ll just agree to disagree . We’ll wait an entire week for them again. Next Sunday it is . ^ and stop saying that weekends is best for all teams bud. We’ve been availible on week days all the time!

[Mine AGK]

Maybe not, but figuring just like every other round it would be the Sunday after. And Reborn wasn’t available and now pushing us to do the match tonight when one of our teammates is working, we waiting all week for you guys. You should respect the one day we can’t play.

We have respected it. We have already stated we can continue discussing times and dates with no problem. Though i will not stand for you blatently saying our team wasnt ready before the deadline as we are currently open for tonight as your team isnt. Thats fine, we can reschedule and avoid this bickering on forums.

[Mine AGK]

Nah bro it’s cool, we’ll just agree to disagree . We’ll wait an entire week for them again. Next Sunday it is . ^ and stop saying that weekends is best for all teams bud. We’ve been availible on week days all the time!

We usually are open for weekdays and weekends but this week is a hastle as we have already seen thus far. Statistically speaking, most people dont work on weekends which is why i say that weekends are best for all teams, not specifically just yours.

[Iamxmayhem]

Well this tournament is more than just what works best for your team. Make sacrifices as all teams have . Getting to bed early isn’t a good excuse . It’s a 35 minute match. 10 pm est is 3 am for my teammate swift btw ^. And y’all work week day jobs , “statistically” week day jobs are 9-5. So a loss of 30 minutes of sleep isn’t going to hurt. But as I said sure we’ll wait again until next Sunday . ^ I’ll post again closer to then ^

[Absolize]

We usually are open for weekdays and weekends but this week is a hastle as we have already seen thus far. Statistically speaking, most people dont work on weekends which is why i say that weekends are best for all teams, not specifically just yours.

Okay, so how is tomorrow at 8pm EST?

[Mine AGK]

Okay, so how is tomorrow at 8pm EST?

Did you miss the first 2 statments? We cant do monday/tuesday/wednesday. I have said that twice now. Teamates have work and family obligations AFTER work on those days. We can further discuss more open dates as the week continues, though if it comes down to it sunday can always be the final day and then ghost can dq who he needs to.


@itastemvp never once have i said it works best for us. Our first match we had made sacrifices as one of our teamates ended up with 4hrs of sleep due to the time we had our match. The 3 days that we cant do are effected by both jobs and family obligations and not just work.

[Absolize]

Did you miss the first 2 statments? We cant do monday/tuesday/wednesday. I have said that twice now. Teamates have work and family obligations AFTER work on those days. We can further discuss more open dates and the week continues, though if it comes down to it sunday can always be the final day and then ghost can dq who he needs to.


@itastemvp never once have i said it works best for us. Our first match we had made sacrifices as one of our teamates ended up with 4hrs of sleep due to the time we had our match. The 3 days that we cant due are effected by both jobs and family obligations and not just work.

Yeah I’m not paying attention to your bickering, but yeah okay. We can see when its okay for you all.

[Mine AGK]

Yeah I’m not paying attention to your bickering, but yeah okay. We can see when its okay for you all.

No ones bickering. We are stating that we cant do the match those days and you continue to bring that day up AFTER WE ALREADY STATED THAT BEING ONE OF THE DAYS WE CANT DO. An extension is needed and has already been agreed to. You tell us to respect the day you guys can/cant play but yet you choose to ignore ours?

[XghostzX]

Again, deadline can be extended if needed and if you guys can find viable times.

[Absolize]

No ones bickering. We are stating that we cant do the match those days and you continue to bring that day up AFTER WE ALREADY STATED THAT BEING ONE OF THE DAYS WE CANT DO. An extension is needed and has already been agreed to. You tell us to respect the day you guys can/cant play but yet you choose to ignore ours?

I work 12 hours a day, and I’m still finding time to play after work. If I can do that so can you all. I understand family is important but it’s literally 30mins-1hour out of your day, not to much to ask for.

[Absolize]

Again, deadline can be extended if needed and if you guys can find viable times.

Thanks, sorry for the complications.

[Iamxmayhem]

Ghost already agreed to extension. So no need for further comments . As said well comment closer to next weekend seeing as you guys can only ever play Sundays . So next weekend we’ll talk. Thanks ttyl then.

[Mine AGK]

I work 12 hours a day, and I’m still finding time to play after work. If I can do that so can you all. I understand family is important but it’s literally 30mins-1hour out of your day, not to much to ask for.

Thats called trying to force times. We have respected your teams time and have offered to reschedule for what works best for both of our teams. What works for YOU as an individual person does not reflect what others, let alone a group of 10 total players can work with.

@ghost appreciate the response. Match will be played by sunday for sure. Hope to see good games from both semi final matches

[XghostzX]

No worries about the complications, they're inevitable for all of these matches! Just keep plugging away and working towards finding new times. I know you guys got this.

[Congeniality]

Thats called trying to force times. We have respected your teams time and have offered to reschedule for what works best for both of our teams. What works for YOU as an individual person does not reflect what others, let alone a group of 10 total players can work with.

@ghost appreciate the response. Match will be played by sunday for sure. Hope to see good games from both semi final matches

Replying here to ease the tension. Hook is mostly upset with Plpr from what I have gathered from the messages. To say "we" have respected your team's times, is objectively wrong due to plpr's previous statements. I would say that "you" (Mine AGK) have been respectful of Apex's times, but not your entire team has.

I think we are also taking things in the wrong light. Part of being an intelligent human being is to put yourself into another person's shoes and understand why they are saying what they are. For instance, when Hook says he is working 12 hours a day and finding time, he is simply saying that he is putting in effort. It isn't an insult at anyone, instead it is just a mention of his commitment to putting a match in. To take it as somehow diminishing the oppositions commitment is an extremely self-centric point of view.

Both teams need to understand that their respective members are going to advocate for how they are committing to the tournament, and it has no repercussions on how yourself are viewed. I would also argue that replying negatively to such comments about commitment do the contrary to what your goals may be.

Let's keep this civilized and remember this is all for fun (ik I may not be one to talk, but it doesn't make me wrong XD)

Walie

[Absolize]

Replying here to ease the tension. Hook is mostly upset with Plpr from what I have gathered from the messages. To say "we" have respected your team's times, is objectively wrong due to plpr's previous statements. I would say that "you" (Mine AGK) have been respectful of Apex's times, but not your entire team has.

I think we are also taking things in the wrong light. Part of being an intelligent human being is to put yourself into another person's shoes and understand why they are saying what they are. For instance, when Hook says he is working 12 hours a day and finding time, he is simply saying that he is putting in effort. It isn't an insult at anyone, instead it is just a mention of his commitment to putting a match in. To take it as somehow diminishing the oppositions commitment is an extremely self-centric point of view.

Both teams need to understand that their respective members are going to advocate for how they are committing to the tournament, and it has no repercussions on how yourself are viewed. I would also argue that replying negatively to such comments about commitment do the contrary to what your goals may be.

Let's keep this civilized and remember this is all for fun (ik I may not be one to talk, but it doesn't make me wrong XD)

Walie

Couldn’t have explained it better lol

[Mine AGK]

No worries about the complications, they're inevitable for all of these matches! Just keep plugging away and working towards finding new times. I know you guys got this.

Though even if their teamate dies, that can still allow the rhino/fox to pick it up and dash away regardless of being targeting or not is still tedious. I dont think they should have ever been allowed to touch it regardless if their teamate falls.

[Absolize]

Though even if their teamate dies, that can still allow the rhino/fox to pick it up and dash away regardless of being targeting or not is still tedious. I dont think they should have ever been allowed to touch it regardless if their teamate falls.

Now you’re asking to change the rules when the tournament is nearly over lol.. I’m already restricted enough by being bound to sets, and not being able to capture flags. Don’t try that

[XghostzX]

Though even if their teamate dies, that can still allow the rhino/fox to pick it up and dash away regardless of being targeting or not is still tedious. I dont think they should have ever been allowed to touch it regardless if their teamate falls.

That was a tough decision I had to make at the beginning of this tournament. But if I prohibited rhino/foxes from picking up a dead teammate's flag, that basically meant they couldn't be anywhere near the action, and that would be some major rhino/fox racism :P

[Mine AGK]

Now you’re asking to change the rules when the tournament is nearly over lol.. I’m already restricted enough by being bound to sets, and not being able to capture flags. Don’t try that

I didnt ask to change the rules but as you just asked about how rhino can be utilized in this tourney. I stated how it can be tedious. It can also be easily exploited because ANYONE who picks up the flag is an automatic target in CTF and anyone who plays ctf knows that. That can allow an easy exploit via the flag carrier knowing they are going to be targeted and die to simply do just that. The whole team can back off and allow the rhino to run it home with no worries at all due to dash. Thats a simple exloit that can be taken advantage of in any ctf match regardless if its a tourney or not.

[Absolize]

I didnt ask to change the rules but as you just asked about how rhino can be utilized in this tourney. I stated how it can be tedious. It can also be easily exploited because ANYONE who picks up the flag is an automatic target in CTF and anyone who plays ctf knows that. That can allow an easy exploit via the flag carrier knowing they are going to be targeted and die to simply do just that. The whole team can back off and allow the rhino to run it home with no worries at all due to dash. Thats a simple exloit that can be taken advantage of in any ctf match regardless if its a tourney or not.

He clearly stated someone can’t die purposely to drop flag for a rhino/fox. There’s no way to exploit, its strategy.

[Mine AGK]

He clearly stated someone can’t die purposely to drop flag for a rhino/fox. There’s no way to exploit, its strategy.

Thats not strategy. Once again, it is an exploit. It doesnt have to appear to be an intentional death as ANYONE WHO PICKS UP THE FLAG KNOWS THEY ARE AN IMMEDIATE TARGET. They can fight all they want to try to appear that it isnt intentional or it doesnt even have to be intentional at all. It can still be exploited regardless. Im not asking or even trying to get a rule change but im stating that this is indeed an exploit that can be used with a fox/rhino. The match will still take place regardless of what i say or not. Its just a thought that makes sense. Its not a strategy.

[Iamxmayhem]

Lol^ this has turned amusing honestly . Giving 1 day proposal for matches , waiting a week for another proposal. And now stating how playing us will be unfair due to a possibility of an exploit? Yes we will all back away and let our flag carrier die so that hook has a “chance” to grab the flag and capture it . Being that he can’t even dash away without targeting someone far away. Yes that would be a great strategy. LOl . Allowing a full team to attack our flag carrier for a chance , key word, chance of hook getting it. NTY. Completely irrelevant to bring this up now. Hilarious how bad y’all are trying to get out of this match.

[Mine AGK]

Lol^ this has turned amusing honestly . Giving 1 day proposal for matches , waiting a week for another proposal. And now stating how playing us will be unfair due to a possibility of an exploit? Yes we will all back away and let our flag carrier die so that hook has a “chance” to grab the flag and capture it . Being that he can’t even dash away without targeting someone far away. Yes that would be a great strategy. LOl . Allowing a full team to attack our flag carrier for a chance , key word, chance of hook getting it. NTY. Completely irrelevant to bring this up now. Hilarious how bad y’all are trying to get out of this match.

Didnt say that it was an unfair advantage. I stated that its an exploit. Youre insinuating that im talking specifically about your team. No one is trying to get out of the match, thats unsportsmanship right there assuming thats what we are trying to do. I made a statement based on a thought process. You assume that im saying your team is going to do this. Not accusing any team that they did or didnt do this. Its a statement that i decided to bring up even though ive stated I DONT WANT A RULE CHANGE, its also too late for a rule change as we have already experience how that worked out when someone else tried that and saw the backlash. Continue to say assumptions and false accusations is ridiculous. Now, i will ask once more. STOP MAKING FALSE ACCUSATIONS OF ANYONE ON MY TEAM OR MY TEAM IN GENERAL.

[Iamxmayhem]

You’re the only one stating accusations? Lol are you blind. You just stated that having a rhino on our team allows us to exploit in some type of mysterious way. I’m done. You’re clearly immature and spamming this forum with off topic , irrelevant comments. We’ll be back on forums Saturday. Ty.

[Mine AGK]

You’re the only one stating accusations? Lol are you blind. You just stated that having a rhino on our team allows us to exploit in some type of mysterious way. I’m done. You’re clearly immature and spamming this forum with off topic , irrelevant comments. We’ll be back on forums Saturday. Ty.

I stated that a rhino/fox on a team can easily exploit the rule of them only being able to pick up a flag only if their teamate has fallen. I DID NOT SPECIFICALLY SAY YOUR TEAM, THATS AN ASSUMPTION YOU MADE. Its obviously not mysterious if ive already ellaborated on how it can easily be done. Saying that im "immature" because i made a statement that wasnt directed specifically towards your team is once again unsportsmanship. This isnt irrelavent as it still pertains to the tourney and tourney rules. I will look forward to our VERY COMPETITIVE match, whenever the time/date is set.

[Absolize]

I stated that a rhino/fox on a team can easily exploit the rule of them only being able to pick up a flag only if their teamate has fallen. I DID NOT SPECIFICALLY SAY YOUR TEAM, THATS AN ASSUMPTION YOU MADE. Its obviously not mysterious if ive already ellaborated on how it can easily be done. Saying that im "immature" because i made a statement that wasnt directed specifically towards your team is once again unsportsmanship. This isnt irrelavent as it still pertains to the tourney and tourney rules. I will look forward to our VERY COMPETITIVE match, whenever the time/date is set.

You’re trying to change the rules (after already agreeing to them clearly stated above) to handicap rhino/fox for this tournament. Plus, if we’re gonna talk about unsportsmanship, what about your teammate when I was just simply trying to put the match together? I only asked for an answer regarding what was going on, and I was getting heat for it. Let’s stop trying to ruin the match, and let’s just figure out a time to have a fun match. We don’t need to argue.

[Dolloway]

Unfortunately Resto II doesn't seem to have time to play our match until Saturday. I've tried scheduling a match at dozens of times for this coming week, but Sniper has work 14 hours a day and won't play outside of 8-9pm est everyday when our teammate Wanted has work of his own during this time.

9/10 people agreed to a match last night but Sniper didn't get back to us all afternoon yesterday and still hasn't messaged any of us back.

Resto I would like to get this match in ASAP because finals and vacation are coming up for some of us and we won't have time to devote to this tournament anymore.

[Mine AGK]

You’re trying to change the rules (after already agreeing to them clearly stated above) to handicap rhino/fox for this tournament. Plus, if we’re gonna talk about unsportsmanship, what about your teammate when I was just simply trying to put the match together? I only asked for an answer regarding what was going on, and I was getting heat for it. Let’s stop trying to ruin the match, and let’s just figure out a time to have a fun match. We don’t need to argue.

You seem to miss the bold lettering. I DO NOT WANT A RULE CHANGE. Have you missed that twice now?

Now in regards to my teamate, the reason he said that was becuase you were informed TWICE that we couldnt do monday/tuesday and then you were told wednesday. You once again said monday at 8pm as to force us to play that day. You had no respect for out times as we respected that you couldnt play last night.

[Absolize]

You seem to miss the bold lettering. I DO NOT WANT A RULE CHANGE. Have you missed that twice now?

Now in regards to my teamate, the reason he said that was becuase you were informed TWICE that we couldnt do monday/tuesday and then you were told wednesday. You once again said monday at 8pm as to force us to play that day. You had no respect for out times as we respected that you couldnt play last night.

Not the case, I didn’t force anything upon anyone. I simply asked if maybe we could, I’m just putting in effort to get the match over with. I respect that you guys aren’t available from time to time, but throughout the entire week, you guys can’t play. Which is difficult to work around. But Thursday and Friday we will try to make something happen. Sound good?

[Iamxmayhem]

How about seeing as dolloway stated vacation times are coming up , I include how swift may or may not be moving next weekend, people have serious matters being post poned because players as in a select few , won’t sacrifice 30minutes of sleep to get a match in. Seeing as apex isn’t the only team putting up with this issue vs the other team, it’s clear that a 30 minutes loss of sleep to get these matches going is needed. Tonight or tomorrow night is perfect. @REBORN. Get your players together (especially the ones complaining of sleep) and ask them to sacrifice 30 minutes of their time. It’s that simple. Stop throwing “exploits” and “accusations” as an excuse . And let’s get this match in. Instead of waitin till the weekend yet again for a possibility of one of my players having real life issues to address.

[Dolloway]

Yeah, basically we can find a time agreed on by 9/10 people but Sniper can never play any of those dozens of times that are suggested because of 'sleep'. I have suggested for him to take a nap and then get up, play a 20-30 min match and then go back to bed but he doesn't seem to care enough to do so.

My team is ready to play any day this week if Sniper can sacrifice 20-30 mins of his time and play at a time that's already been agreed upon by every other person involved in this match.

[Iamxmayhem]

Well said. The large amount of days we are available here in apex, swift will end up playing at 1-2 am and he’s ok with it, even tho he goes to work at 6am . I my self as stated previously am up by 4 am, on most days. And I’m willing to do a 10pm match. 8-10 preferably. But because of one player needing sleep. Match is post poned. Lol.. anyone on my team would happily stay up late or sacrifice for a 30 minute (at most) match.

[Mine AGK]

How about seeing as dolloway stated vacation times are coming up , I include how swift may or may not be moving next weekend, people have serious matters being post poned because players as in a select few , won’t sacrifice 30minutes of sleep to get a match in. Seeing as apex isn’t the only team putting up with this issue vs the other team, it’s clear that a 30 minutes loss of sleep to get these matches going is needed. Tonight or tomorrow night is perfect. @REBORN. Get your players together (especially the ones complaining of sleep) and ask them to sacrifice 30 minutes of their time. It’s that simple. Stop throwing “exploits” and “accusations” as an excuse . And let’s get this match in. Instead of waitin till the weekend yet again for a possibility of one of my players having real life issues to address.

So youre trying to force a play time even though we already stated those times werent available to us? We have problems for our team with both work and real life obligations to deal with aswell. As far as saying we are making "excuses", good accusation and assumption. We are far from making "excuses" because we want to get this match in and yet youre now trying to force times on people yet at the same time ask us to respect your times? Im currently in the process of moving myself so whats your point? But yeah, we're making the "excuses"? LOL we havent forced a single time suggestion to your team at all, we were ready last night but seeing as your team couldnt make it we were more then willing to reschedule. You are now trying to force times regardless of availability. You say that i should tell my teamates that are complaining of sleep? 1 PLAYER HAS ISSUES WITH THE SLEEPING, THE OTHERS HAVE OTHER REAL LIFE OBLIGATIONS TO DEAL WITH. We already stated those days arent available to us.

[Mine AGK]

Well said. The large amount of days we are available here in apex, swift will end up playing at 1-2 am and he’s ok with it, even tho he goes to work at 6am . I my self as stated previously am up by 4 am, on most days. And I’m willing to do a 10pm match. 8-10 preferably. But because of one player needing sleep. Match is post poned. Lol.. anyone on my team would happily stay up late or sacrifice for a 30 minute (at most) match.

Once again, we are open to 8-10 pm EST but monday/tuesday/wednesday have been off the table this week due to family/work and sleeping schedules (which is 1 day). Though we may end up being able to the match in TONIGHT IF OUR TEAMATE CAN GET OFF WORK EARLY AND GET WHATEVER ELSE HE NEEDS DONE. We should be able to let you know by 6-7PM EST if we will be getting the match in. YES it may be last minute but it will get the match in so people can stop trying to force times and say that people are "trying to get out of the match"

[Iamxmayhem]

Sure . Let us know .

[Iamxmayhem]

Anytime 8-10 tonight works . Swift will loose sleep but agrees to play, it’ll be 1 am for him. Hook gets off work st 7 pm, he still agrees to play at 8-10. Cold is studying for his last final at his fams house and agrees to play, smokesterr gets off right at 7:30 and agreed . I slept 2 hours last night and am ready for tonight while watching my girls niece all day, sacrifices..

[Absolize]

Yep, let’s get it done :)

[Mine AGK]

anytime 8-10 tonight works . Swift will loose sleep but agrees to play, it’ll be 1 am for him. Hook gets off work st 7 pm, he still agrees to play at 8-10. Cold is studying for his last final at his fams house and agrees to play, smokesterr gets off right at 7:30 and agreed . I slept 2 hours last night and am ready for tonight while watching my girls niece all day, sacrifices..

thats if our teamate can get off work early.

[Mine AGK]

in the event that he does not get out of work early, weekend is our last and final option.

[Absolize]

Apex’s options are as followed:

Monday: 8-10pm EST
Tuesday: 8-10pm EST
Wednesday: 8-10pm EST
Thursday: 8-10pm EST
Friday: Anytime

If anything changes, I’ll be sure to inform everyone.

[XghostzX]

2H weapons (with the exception of bows) will not be permitted in light of the stat adjustments. This should not effect anyone, so please don't find some crazy way to complain about it.

[plpr]

2H weapons (with the exception of bows) will not be permitted in light of the stat adjustments. This should not effect anyone, so please don't find some crazy way to complain about it.
Sorry this rule makes too much sense I'm out. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180806/95586f231664ee1d77377a9b5b484a11.jpg

[Iamxmayhem]

@reborn, you guys still gonna let us know something soon?

[Absolize]

2H weapons (with the exception of bows) will not be permitted in light of the stat adjustments. This should not effect anyone, so please don't find some crazy way to complain about it.

Ofc no problem. Did they get buffed or something?

[Mine AGK]

@reborn, you guys still gonna let us know something soon?

Looks like tonight is a no go. Time to start thinking about friday.

[Congeniality]

Ofc no problem. Did they get buffed or something?

Yessir!! :D

[Absolize]

Looks like tonight is a no go. Time to start thinking about friday.

Ok, what time?

[Iamxmayhem]

How about this. Y’all have more “family obligations” tomorrow aswell. But are all off work 8-10pm est. how about a maybe for tomorrow as well. Talk to your guys tomorrow and see if the 1 busy teammate just so happens to get a spare 30minutes tomorrow between 8-10. And then let us know again , cause all my guys are willing to drop what they’re doing tomorrow night to play. Thanks let us know.

[Mine AGK]

How about this. Y’all have more “family obligations” tomorrow aswell. But are all off work 8-10pm est. how about a maybe for tomorrow as well. Talk to your guys tomorrow and see if the 1 busy teammate just so happens to get a spare 30minutes tomorrow between 8-10. And then let us know again , cause all my guys are willing to drop what they’re doing tomorrow night to play. Thanks let us know.

One teamate has to be in bed early tomorrow. Wednesday is off the table aswell. Thursday and friday still have yet to be discussed. Friday seems best for both our teams since it seems you guys are available all day.

[Absolize]

One teamate has to be in bed early tomorrow. Wednesday is off the table aswell. Thursday and friday still have yet to be discussed. Friday seems best for both our teams since it seems you guys are available all day.

As stated, it may have to be changed. One of my teammates are moving, and ones house is under renovation, so his WiFi is cut out sometimes. Tbh tomorrow or Wednesday would be best on our end. The things my teammates are doing aren’t little things, these things take up a lot of time and can come up at random points to where they can’t play at a certain time.

[Absolize]

Shouldn’t be a problem for your one teammate to play at 8pm tomorrow? He can be in bed by 8:30-9:00 pm. That’s still early and he can get plenty of sleep. I also will be losing sleep over this, considering our availability is 8-10pm and I usually go to sleep at 9 and have to wake up at 4am.

[Iamxmayhem]

Are we really gonna let one persons “needing sleep” early post pone us yet again? To a possible dq determining who moves forward again. Let’s just get this thing over with tomorrow . 8 pm eastern would be perfect. Tell that one teammate to sacrifice 30 minutes of his time to get this thing over with. Or else it’ll be the same thing again. Begging for even another extension. If he’s a loyal member of your team and really wants a win , he’ll sacrifice 30 minutes. I get plenty of 4-5 hr nights of sleep. Let’s do this tomorrow 8pm est.

[Holyfuryzz]

Match is scheduled! Wednesday, Aug 8th. 8-10pm Est time! Best of luck! See ya soon!170137

[Iamxmayhem]

Wait wait wait wait. YOU WENT TO HOOK PRIVATELY At 10 pm. (Tonight) on a night that YOU SAID YALL COULD NOT PLAY, and tried to get us all on to play TONIGHT. After swift and smoke went to bed. And then secretly talked hook into agreeing to playing Wednesday? Without him consulting with us first ? LOL. And even screen shotted it! YALL SAID WEDNESDAY WAS OUT OF THE QUESTION 100%, don’t TRICK, my teammate into agreeing to a date that y’all said was an ABSOLUTE no go. He did not consult with us until now. I MYSELF, schedule plans for Wednesday being that y’all SAID ABSOLUTELY NO to Wednesday , yesterday. Would you like a screen shot too?

[Mastervoodoo]

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[Holyfuryzz]

@Iamxmayhem / Team Apex.

Please take a minute to read into what's actually going on. Two captains speaking to each other regarding scheduling. Nothing more. Don't take it all so personally as if there's some grand scheme underneath it all. Both Hook and I are and have been trying to work out times for us to play before and since our missing teammate has returned. He has told me that the 8-10pm Est time window works for his team as it also works for us. He also told me that team Apex is usually ready daily between these hours. No one is tricking anyone into some binding agreement.. this was a mutual agreement between two captains. Cut Hook some slack.. he is your team's captain and it's not like he's kept you all out of the information loop and not telling you giys that the 8-10pm est hours work for you guys. We are simply trying to settle and work out a day to play. He has kept you informed of scheduling matters; it's not like he's completely disregarding your team's mutual concensus... You all have been told of the times to play. We just wanted to settle on a day and now we have. We've made the time to play.

If there's really an issue with playing at those hours on Wednesday, please tell your team Captain, who would then tell me so that we could better coordinate hours of play. There's no need to be so aggressive and or defensive on the matter.. Trust me, both Hook and I know it as relief that we can settle on a day and hours to play. Why prolong things? Why exert such energy? T

hese are Captain's doing their jobs. Cut us a break and understand that the last thing we want, are to see our teams sink into unnecessary stress and never get a date and hour set to play. We schedule, that's what we're supposed to do. No trickery, nothing up a sleeve, no toxicity or hostility. We're just doing what we have to do or else we'll just prolong things till who knows when....

Thank you for your understanding.

[XghostzX]

Deadline for this round will be through this Sunday.

[Absolize]

@Iamxmayhem / Team Apex.

Please take a minute to read into what's actually going on. Two captains speaking to each other regarding scheduling. Nothing more. Don't take it all so personally as if there's some grand scheme underneath it all. Both Hook and I are and have been trying to work out times for us to play before and since our missing teammate has returned. He has told me that the 8-10pm Est time window works for his team as it also works for us. He also told me that team Apex is usually ready daily between these hours. No one is tricking anyone into some binding agreement.. this was a mutual agreement between two captains. Cut Hook some slack.. he is your team's captain and it's not like he's kept you all out of the information loop and not telling you giys that the 8-10pm est hours work for you guys. We are simply trying to settle and work out a day to play. He has kept you informed of scheduling matters; it's not like he's completely disregarding your team's mutual concensus... You all have been told of the times to play. We just wanted to settle on a day and now we have. We've made the time to play.

If there's really an issue with playing at those hours on Wednesday, please tell your team Captain, who would then tell me so that we could better coordinate hours of play. There's no need to be so aggressive and or defensive on the matter.. Trust me, both Hook and I know it as relief that we can settle on a day and hours to play. Why prolong things? Why exert such energy? T

hese are Captain's doing their jobs. Cut us a break and understand that the last thing we want, are to see our teams sink into unnecessary stress and never get a date and hour set to play. We schedule, that's what we're supposed to do. No trickery, nothing up a sleeve, no toxicity or hostility. We're just doing what we have to do or else we'll just prolong things till who knows when....

Thank you for your understanding.

It is sort of my fault, I agreed without asking, because I figured everyone since everyone was free Wednesday, it shouldn’t be a problem. But on the other hand, members of your team did say it was a 100% no for Wednesday, and that is the last thing my team heard about that day, so they made plans to work overtime that day. With that being said, I’ll let you know if we run into complications for Wednesday.

[Absolize]

Holyfuryzz,

The time that works best for my team is 8:30 PM EST time tomorrow.

[Xyzther]

Gl, hope you guys can finally get in this match

[Absolize]

Gl, hope you guys can finally get in this match

Thanks bud, it’s gonna happen. :)

[Holyfuryzz]

It is sort of my fault, I agreed without asking, because I figured everyone since everyone was free Wednesday, it shouldn’t be a problem. But on the other hand, members of your team did say it was a 100% no for Wednesday, and that is the last thing my team heard about that day, so they made plans to work overtime that day. With that being said, I’ll let you know if we run into complications for Wednesday.

Ah. And here comes life's irony.. 3 of our teammates have decided on calling out of work to make Wednesday work. If there are truly any complications for Wednesday with you or your team, please be sure to let us know by 8-9pm Est tonight so that we can work out other arrangements and my teammates don't miss out on a day of their work that they'd have to then make up later in the week.

As for the hour, can we meet in the middle at 9pm Est time? Would work out nicely for both teams I'd say.

[Iamxmayhem]

LOl. So 3 people called into work tomorrow to make this match happen? But one needed sleep tonight . Good one:) , see you guys tomorrow at 9 on the dot !

[Absolize]

Ah. And here comes life's irony.. 3 of our teammates have decided on calling out of work to make Wednesday work. If there are truly any complications for Wednesday with you or your team, please be sure to let us know by 8-9pm Est tonight so that we can work out other arrangements and my teammates don't miss out on a day of their work that they'd have to then make up later in the week.

As for the hour, can we meet in the middle at 9pm Est time? Would work out nicely for both teams I'd say.

Sure, 9pm EST tomorrow it is.

[XghostzX]

Received an incredibly generous donation of 5mill from Jilsponie!

Also received a 25k donation from bestburdy (every bit counts).

Thanks guys!

[Idevour]

Posting on behlaf of Resto II

We were available from 7-10 est monday-thursday. Times that Resto I was unable to play

Over this 2 week period that equals 24 hours that we were able to have played.

I would like to ask for 1 more week extension so we can get a match in.

Unless we can get 1 in this saturday.

[Dolloway]

Posting on behalf of Resto I.

We were available 2pm-6pm est as well as 11pm-2am est on Monday-Friday the first week as well as 2pm-6pm est and 12am-2am est during the second week. Times that Resto II were unable to play. We also agreed to have a match last weekend on Sunday at 12am est but Sniper never showed. 9/10 people agreed to that match, except Sniper who never bothered to message us back from 5pm est on until 4pm the NEXT day. He said he was 'way asleep' by this time (by 5pm he was asleep and couldn't let any of us know?).

I requested for him to sacrifice some of his sleep time for us so that we could get this match in because 9/10 people kept agreeing on a night time to play but Sniper ignored my messages and has not been communicating with any of us on Resto I, only Resto II. Resto II has shown be screenshots of what Sniper has said and he stated that he will not change his schedule for a 'dumb tourney' and told us we could all sacrifice for him instead. He also stated that if his team were to be disqualified, he would message Cinco and try to withdraw shields for everyone, which I found entirely rude. Ghost has worked on this tournament for two months straight and Sniper wants to sabotage it because he might receive a disqualification for his blatant lack of effort or care for this tournament. Even Idevour/Idesolate, Iiroseii, and Lonebrute have acknowledged and agreed that Sniper has shown a lack of care and effort towards this tournament and have all wanted to remove him from their team.

We have also tried to accommodate Resto II by sacrificing time out of our schedules to play whenever they want this weekend, whether it's the early afternoon, mid-afternoon/early evening, or late evening. However, once again, Resto II is unable to play this weekend according to Team Captain Lonebrute. He has acknowledged that Sniper, Idesolate, and his availabile times all conflict with one another. Therefore, Resto II cannot even get all five of their team members online together anytime this weekend at all. Meanwhile, as stated previously, my team, Resto I, has proposed about half a dozen times between the beginning of the afternoon to midnight and none of these times work for Resto II. They are completely unable to get all five members on at once during the times of 12pm est-12am est on Saturday or Sunday. I would also like to state for the record that all ten members involved in this match have USA time zones. Six of these players have est, two central, and two pst, so the maximum time difference is only three hours.

Team Captain Lonebrute has privately agreed to a disqualification should his team not find time to play this weekend and according to him, it doesn't look like they will have time. He has also acknowledged that any case made against Resto I for being unfair holds no water at all and agrees that his team is in a position to be disqualified.

I would also briefly like to mention that I tried four days in a row to schedule a match with Lonebrute during the first week but he provided me with no answers and continued to state that he was checking for the availability for his team, so Idevour/Idesolate stating that Resto I knew that Resto II was available to play during those hours the first week of scheduling is entirely false. We did not make a group chat until last Friday or Saturday and this is when scheduling talks finally ramped up since Lonebrute couldn't coordinate very well with his teammates in order to provide us with a schedule of when his team was available.

Lastly, I do not want an extension for this tournament any longer. This round has gone on for almost two weeks and this tournament is almost two months old. I want to finish this tournament as fast as possible because I go away on vacation next week and I believe this tournament can wrap up as early as this weekend if everything falls into place. From what Ghost has said for the past month, this tournament should wrap up between August 1 and August 15. If it were to go any longer than that, Ghost would not be keeping his word.

I have plenty of screenshots from Lonebrute, Sniper, Idesolate, and Iiroseii if you want to deny any of what I have stated.

As far as I see it based on your schedules, the only way we can play this weekend is for Sniper to actually sacrifice some of his time for his beauty sleep and do right by his teammates by actually making an effort for this tournament and getting up for 30 mins or less to play the match. Either get in the match this weekend and make Sniper actually put in effort for once by staying up a little past his bedtime or taking a nap, getting up and playing the match for 30 mins or less and then going back to bed, or take the disqualification that you rightly deserve, as acknowledged by your Team Captain Lonebrute. I am sick of trying to jump through hoops to accommodate Sniper when he doesn't care about this tournament at all and won't do the same for our team by sacrificing 30 minutes of his sleep.

[IiRose]

Restore 1 has been fully available when Restore 2 isn’t. Similarly, Restore 2 is available when Restore 1 isn’t. Both have been unavailable for work related obligations. So both teams have been equally responsible.

I understand there’s a sense of urgency. But I believe it’s a commonality among both teams that we need to get this tournament done. With an extension, I believe there is enough time to finish both semis and finals within a week.

My suggestion: It seems like Apex and Reborn will get their match in. Whoever wins between Apex and Reborn, Restore 1 and 2 will both attempt to schedule with them. In the case an extension happens for semis, the finals will already be settled (in terms of time of the match), so we have a little bit of a reserve to go into next week a bit for scheduling for our own match.

I have been hard at work communicating with both my team and others and am doing my best to work things out and I can say the same for Restore 1.

[mrpopoisalegend]

In the end, one of the resto teams will win. prove me wrong otherwise.

[Absolize]

Good game, Reborn. Hope to see you guys in the next tournament whenever it may be! :) https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180809/0a3c81853e47abb572ef1cbbe318ee2b.png

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[Holyfuryzz]

Good game, Reborn. Hope to see you guys in the next tournament whenever it may be! :) https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180809/0a3c81853e47abb572ef1cbbe318ee2b.png

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Good Game; best of luck in the future.

[Absolize]

Good Game; best of luck in the future.

You too! We had fun

[XghostzX]

Nice game guys, Apex advances to the finals!

[Absolize]

Restoration II,

Currently, our availability to get the match done would be Saturday (today) and Tuesday 8-10pm EST time. If neither of these days work for you all, we can try something else.

Also, just to be 100% certain I would like a screen shot of the game so there’s no confusion on who were versing, and just to follow procedure as always.

Thanks

[Nihiliste]

Restoration II,

Currently, our availability to get the match done would be Saturday (today) and Tuesday 8-10pm EST time. If neither of these days work for you all, we can try something else.

Also, just to be 100% certain I would like a screen shot of the game so there’s no confusion on who were versing, and just to follow procedure as always.

Thanks

I’ll get back to you. I’m in the process of making a post, and it needs to be approved by a moderator it seems.

[Absolize]

I’ll get back to you. I’m in the process of making a post, and it needs to be approved by a moderator it seems.

Okay sounds good!

[Iamxmayhem]

I seem to be a bit confused here, you’re currently making a post? Since when does a ss need to be approved ? Lol. Oh boy

[Iamxmayhem]

Tbh you are suppose to immediately post a ss of your win? I’m unsure of what type of complications are coming from this lol

[Nihiliste]

Nice game guys, Apex advances to the finals!

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[Iamxmayhem]

Oh wow, an undesclosed decision to allow a sub in after the first match was completed ? Isn’t this something that was better suited to be made public prior to happening than to be done privately so all teams would be aware? Just saying. Looks like total favoritism now, not sure any other team would have had this same change made available . But congratulations on the win, will definitely be looking forward to playing you guys very soon :)

[Absolize]

6. After the first match, your team may not use any other players and/or classes. Teams must stay the same throughout tournament.


I’m confused on this.. didn’t sniper play the first time?

[Iamxmayhem]

Don’t worry bro, a discrete rule break made in privacy / allowed out of favoritism, it is what it is , let’s just set up a match :) the sooner the better. So the team is now , iirose, lonebrute, huskybird, idesolate, and APORROW. Right ? Again congratulations on the win glad y’all got to play. Will y’all be available tonight or Tuesday at 8pm-10pm est time? @restoration 2?

[Nihiliste]

Results of Resto 1 v. Resto 2:

I’d like to start off by saying what a great game it was playing Resto 1. This match was incredibly fun from start to finish and both teams fought hard to keep eachother from scoring. Good game! Now, unfortunately, Sniper was unable to play this match due to pressing issues that prevented him from playing at all. I was well prepared to face disqualification because of the fact that Sniper would not be able to meet with us at all in the half dozen times that were suggested from Resto 1. Also being that our team was unavailable as a whole in all the times that were suggested. As captain of Resto 2, I came to a mutual agreement with the captain of Resto 1, Dolloway, and we were allowed to use a sub in place of Sniper, who agreed to be subbed in. Both teams understood that Sniper had already played in one match.

Our Sub was Aporrow, who has also already played once in this tournament. However, Resto 1 accepted the terms of letting Resto 2 use Aporrow as a sub as he was the only player to make it for this match. There would have been absolutely no other times to play if not for Friday 8/10 at 12:15 a.m. with the exclusion of Sniper. All 10 players agreed to play the match. These were Ghost’s rules in order for the match to happen and we went ahead and played it. As controversial as that may be, this tourney has been one of that nature it seems, but it is what it is.

[Absolize]

Okay, well seems to be he is your 5th teammate now, understood. When can we schedule the match? Is today (Saturday) 8-10pm EST or Tuesday same time good?

[Mine AGK]

Results of Resto 1 v. Resto 2:

I’d like to start off by saying what a great game it was playing Resto 1. This match was incredibly fun from start to finish and both teams fought hard to keep eachother from scoring. Good game! Now, unfortunately, Sniper was unable to play this match due to pressing issues that prevented him from playing at all. I was well prepared to face disqualification because of the fact that Sniper would not be able to meet with us at all in the half dozen times that were suggested from Resto 1. Also being that our team was unavailable as a whole in all the times that were suggested. As captain of Resto 2, I came to a mutual agreement with the captain of Resto 1, Dolloway, and we were allowed to use a sub in place of Sniper, who agreed to be subbed in. Both teams understood that Sniper had already played in one match.

Our Sub was Aporrow, who has also already played once in this tournament. However, Resto 1 accepted the terms of letting Resto 2 use Aporrow as a sub as he was the only player to make it for this match. There would have been absolutely no other times to play if not for Friday 8/10 at 12:15 a.m. with the exclusion of Sniper. All 10 players agreed to play the match. These were Ghost’s rules in order for the match to happen and we went ahead and played it. As controversial as that may be, this tourney has been one of that nature it seems, but it is what it is.

This is still a breach of rule #6. Reborn knocked out Aporrow in round 1 facing Resto 4. Why should he be allowed to play again? Thats a clear rule break that was talked about behind closed doors.

[Absolize]

This is still a breach of rule #6. Reborn knocked out Aporrow in round 1 facing Resto 4. Why should he be allowed to play again? Thats a clear rule break that was talked about behind closed doors.

Honestly yes I disagree with this. Shouldn’t be able to ignore the rules behind closed doors because of an inactive player. Rule #6 was clearly broken. If everyone else was allowed to do this, wouldn’t be a problem with me but I don’t think anyone should be able to break the rules, that’s why rules are made.

[Idevour]

Lets not have anymore drama please as stated sniper had a pressing issue and real life comes before a game.

We asked the captain of resto 1 and we asked ghost and they agreed to allow us to play the match with a sub.

Lets just get this tournament over without anymore drama please.

[Mine AGK]

Honestly yes I disagree with this. Shouldn’t be able to ignore the rules behind closed doors because of an inactive player. Rule #6 was clearly broken. If everyone else was allowed to do this, wouldn’t be a problem with me but I don’t think anyone should be able to break the rules, that’s why rules are made.

If it was ANYONE that had not already played in the tourney and this was announced on the forums beforehand, i think no one would see a problem. Kinda crazy that it was kept hush hush and no one was told.

[Absolize]

Lets not have anymore drama please as stated sniper had a pressing issue and real life comes before a game.

We asked the captain of resto 1 and we asked ghost and they agreed to allow us to play the match with a sub.

Lets just get this tournament over without anymore drama please.

Im not trying to cause anything dramatic, I came in the tournament following the rules and I expect others to have to do the same..

[Iamxmayhem]

Yeah Ida has no problem if it wasn’t done behind closed doors. But like you said it is what it is right ? Even tho I don’t believe this same thing woulda happen had it been another team. But I’m ready to schedule a match please :)

[MageFFA]

This is still a breach of rule #6. Reborn knocked out Aporrow in round 1 facing Resto 4. Why should he be allowed to play again? Thats a clear rule break that was talked about behind closed doors.

Good point. He already played in the tournement why is he playing again.

[Idevour]

If it was ANYONE that had not already played in the tourney and this was announced on the forums beforehand, i think no one would see a problem. Kinda crazy that it was kept hush hush and no one was told.

It was a last minute decision, once again lets not have any more drama and just finish the tourney

[Mine AGK]

Lets not have anymore drama please as stated sniper had a pressing issue and real life comes before a game.

We asked the captain of resto 1 and we asked ghost and they agreed to allow us to play the match with a sub.

Lets just get this tournament over without anymore drama please.

This "DRAMA" could have been avoided if
1. This was announced on the thread and explained.
2. The sub wasnt a person that was already knocked out in round 1.

For you to ask people to not cause "drama", is funny considering this was allowed behind closed doors. Im knocked out of the tourney and i dont want another shot because it was a 1 time chance. Thats what it should have been for anyone who competed. All the teams that couldnt play their matches were DQ except this specific team.

[MageFFA]

It was a last minute decision, once again lets not have any more drama and just finish the tourney

Last minute or not this is still a breach of conduct. The public was not informed and this WAS an illegal move.

[XghostzX]

Since I'll be getting to school shortly, I would like to award team Legacy for the sportsmanship award. Congrats guys, please find me in game to receive your reward!

Congrats to Restor 2 on an awesome game beating us. Apex is in for a treat :)

Yeah, Sniper had some really pressing matters come up, and with the deadline on its way (we were all logged on), Aporrow was the only one able to play. I have pretty much had it with the tournament, and would have much rather played that CTF match than just have a dumb DQ for Restor 2. I understand the annoyance and subsequent million posts that are about to ensue, and frankly do not care anymore given the incredibly disheartening spirit of the tournament and everyone's inability to see that these rules don't do anything useful for the tournament, so this will be all I have to say.

Good luck to the final two teams. Please, everyone, do make sure that your correct in game names are listed on the original post so I can inform Cinco with the correctly listed names.

[Iamxmayhem]

I’m down. Hoping for a match tonight , 9pm eastern time would work perfect with restoration 2. If you can talk to them or get them to post that would be great thanks.

[Mine AGK]

Since I'll be getting to school shortly, I would like to award team Legacy for the sportsmanship award. Congrats guys, please find me in game to receive your reward!

Congrats to Restor 2 on an awesome game beating us. Apex is in for a treat :)

Yeah, Sniper had some really pressing matters come up, and with the deadline on its way (we were all logged on), Aporrow was the only one able to play. I have pretty much had it with the tournament, and would have much rather played that CTF match than just have a dumb DQ for Restor 2. I understand the annoyance and subsequent million posts that are about to ensue, and frankly do not care anymore given the incredibly disheartening spirit of the tournament and everyone's inability to see that these rules don't do anything useful for the tournament, so this will be all I have to say.

Good luck to the final two teams. Please, everyone, do make sure that your correct in game names are listed on the original post so I can inform Cinco with the correctly listed names.

All in all, any other team would have been DQ. Gg i guess lol.

GL in the next match @apex and @restoration 2

[XghostzX]

The donations have been given to Pinkbugga who kindly informed me that she will distribute the prizes amongst her team.

[Xyzther]

Willlllliam

[Absolize]

All in all, any other team would have been DQ. Gg i guess lol.

GL in the next match @apex and @restoration 2

Appreciate it

[Mine AGK]

I and several others agree that if there is a rule change, especially when a player who was already knocked out gets to play again. There should be no first place shield. Instead it should be 500 plat to the winners and everyone gets participation. Its ridiculous that this rule change was talked about behind closed doors regardless of it being last minute. It still violates rule #6.

Not to mention the fact that all the other teams that didnt have a teamate or teamates available were DQ. Why is it that a team gets special treatment over EVERYONE else? Everyone agreed to the rules from the start, why should they change now? Not to mention its a rule change that was behind closed doors? This is sad to see and ridiculous to even witness. Rule #6 should still be in place and resto 2 should get a dq if they cant get a match in by sunday.

[Absolize]

I and several others agree that if there is a rule change, especially when a player who was already knocked out gets to play again. There should be no first place shield. Instead it should be 500 plat to the winners and everyone gets participation. Its ridiculous that this rule change was talked about behind closed doors regardless of it being last minute. It still violates rule #6.

With all due respect, my team is okay with this substitute as of now, and we are the only ones left in this tournament. Things happen, we understand. Just because they’re trying to finish the tournament and avoid disqualification doesn’t mean there shouldn’t be a 1st place shield for the winners. Let it rest, the teams in the finals now worked very hard to get there and the ones who win deserve the prize.

[Mine AGK]

With all due respect, my team is okay with this substitute as of now, and we are the only ones left in this tournament. Things happen, we understand. Just because they’re trying to finish the tournament and avoid disqualification doesn’t mean there shouldn’t be a 1st place shield for the winners. Let it rest, the teams in the finals now worked very hard to get there and the ones who win deserve the prize.

Yeah but if this was a tourney that wasnt hosted by the "tournament & ladder leader" it would immediately get shut down for this. Guess others can host a tourney and change the rules whenever they feel like it? Its sad to see rules being ONCE AGAIN FORCED and now people just sit here and let it happen.

But yeah, the last time someone tried to force the rules. This was said.


I agree to removing the prize shield for the first place winner. The intentions were for everyone to just play some CTF games. Since prizes are the root of all drama here, this seems clear to me.

[Absolize]

Yeah but if this was a tourney that wasnt hosted by the "tournament & ladder leader" it would immediately get shut down for this. Guess others can host a tourney and change the rules whenever they feel like it? Its sad to see rules being ONCE AGAIN FORCED and now people just sit here and let it happen.

I understand why you’re frustrated, but the teams left are Apex & Restoration II. We are okay with them substituting Aporrow because we don’t want a disqualification victory in the finals. If we win, we want to do it the respectful and right way. IRL stuff happens, and we completely understand that Sniper can’t play, and them having a backup plan (as long as we can get the match in) is alright with us.

[Mine AGK]

I understand why you’re frustrated, but the teams left are Apex & Restoration II. We are okay with them substituting Aporrow because we don’t want a disqualification victory in the finals. If we win, we want to do it the respectful and right way. IRL stuff happens, and we completely understand that Sniper can’t play, and them having a backup plan (as long as we can get the match in) is alright with us.

It doesnt matter what teams are left. Our teams name was in the semi-finals. This occured IN the semi-finals.

Yeah, IRL stuff happens.
Resto 3 had IRL stuff- DQ
Legacy couldnt get times in and IRL stuff- DQ/dropped out
Betrayed couldnt get times in with restor 2- DQ
Resto 2 cant get sniper on in time for their match- gets to substitute with a player that has already been knocked out of the tourney?

Where is the special treatment for the other teams that got DQ? Why dont any other players that entered the tourney get to hop back in? Rules are rules and especially a rule change shouldnt be forced behind closed doors.

Once again, this was said when THE FIRST RULE CHANGE ATTEMPT WAS TRIED.


I agree to removing the prize shield for the first place winner. The intentions were for everyone to just play some CTF games. Since prizes are the root of all drama here, this seems clear to me.

[Fwend]

Ghost your doing an amazingly well hosting this tournament, to be as fair as you can.

I do hope this experience doesn't hinder you from hosting more in the future.

As for all the drama involved with this tourney, it all comes down to the will to win.

Those who do have good sportsmanship won't ever complain or finger point, be agressive and lash out that things are unfair because of any particular reason.

Please stop the drama and let the teams who made it to final play.

Good luck to both Restoration II and Apex in the finals.

[Absolize]

Ghost your doing an amazingly well hosting this tournament, to be as fair as you can.

I do hope this experience doesn't hinder you from hosting more in the future.

As for all the drama involved with this tourney, it all comes down to the will to win.

Those who do have good sportsmanship won't ever complain or finger point, be agressive and lash out that things are unfair because of any particular reason.

Please stop the drama and let the teams who made it to final play.

Good luck to both Restoration II and Apex in the finals.

Thanks, ready to have a good game :)

[Mine AGK]

Ghost your doing an amazingly well hosting this tournament, to be as fair as you can.

I do hope this experience doesn't hinder you from hosting more in the future.

As for all the drama involved with this tourney, it all comes down to the will to win.

Those who do have good sportsmanship won't ever complain or finger point, be agressive and lash out that things are unfair because of any particular reason.

Please stop the drama and let the teams who made it to final play.

Good luck to both Restoration II and Apex in the finals.

So you support rule breaking and forced rule changes mid tourney?

The problem that people have is the fact that a team is getting special treatment while other teams get DQ for the same problems restor 2 was having. Not to mention the player that is being used as a substitute was knocked out by reborn in the first round.


I agree to removing the prize shield for the first place winner. The intentions were for everyone to just play some CTF games. Since prizes are the root of all drama here, this seems clear to me.

[plpr]

So you support rule breaking and forced rule changes mid tourney?

The problem that people have is the fact that a team is getting special treatment while other teams get DQ for the same problems restor 2 was having. Not to mention the player that is being used as a substitute was knocked out by reborn in the first round.


Knocked out but has a chance at the #1 shield comical

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[Absolize]

You guys were also knocked out and feel you have an opinion on who gets what prize. People play tournaments for the purpose of fun and to collect a exclusive shield they get for all their hard work. Stop trying to ruin it.

[Mine AGK]

You guys were also knocked out and feel you have an opinion on who gets what prize..

Its not just us who are allowed to have a voice. EVERYONE who entered the tourney agreed to the rules. THIS INCLUDES RULE #6, which is being broken. Any other team that would have done this would have been automatically DQ. The problems is once again a player that was already knocked out in round 1 gets another chance to play IN THE FINALS. this is special treatment that shouldnt be tolerated by anyone who actually has respect for FAIR competition/tourney.


I agree to removing the prize shield for the first place winner. The intentions were for everyone to just play some CTF games. Since prizes are the root of all drama here, this seems clear to me.

[Absolize]

Its not just us who are allowed to have a voice. EVERYONE who entered the tourney agreed to the rules. THIS INCLUDES RULE #6, which is being broken. Any other team that would have done this would have been automatically DQ. The problems is once again a player that was already knocked out in round 1 gets another chance to play IN THE FINALS. this is special treatment that shouldnt be tolerated by anyone who actually has respect for FAIR competition/tourney.

It is fair, if someone talked to Ghost he would allow it just like he did them if you asked. Stop spreading toxicity on this thread. We are the only team left with Restoration II, and we don’t mind that they subbed. That’s all that matters, let it rest. We’re okay with the tournament moving on as it sits. :)

[Absolize]

Trying to get the 1st place prized removed clearly out of spite is the wrong move. It’s honestly sad and shows huge signs of bad sportsmanship.

[Mine AGK]

Trying to get the 1st place prized removed clearly out of spite is the wrong move. It’s honestly sad and shows huge signs of bad sportsmanship.

Even if our team ended up in the finals i was still advocate for this. Its a breach of rules that all teams agreed to from the beginning. You literally were talking to me in game as to the only reason why you werent gonna speak out. You are only afraid of losing that first place prize. Youre quiet because you didnt want the tourney canceled. Thus missing out on shield.

[Absolize]

Even if our team ended up in the finals i was still advocate for this. Its a breach of rules that all teams agreed to from the beginning. You literally were talking to me in game as to the only reason why you werent gonna speak out. You are only afraid of losing that first place prize. Youre quiet because you didnt want the tourney canceled. Thus missing out on shield.

I clearly told you I don’t want to win by disqualification. We can have a good fair game and no discredit to the winners, no matter who they are.

[Chaasivab]

Honestly I didn’t even play the tournament but reading all this bull crap doesn’t entice new players to want to pvp and participate in future events.

It’s a game play it like a game and stop being toxic on the thread scaring off potential new pvp players like myself.

PL is a game it’s not life or death stop being toxic and taking the fun from everyone... especially those who worked hard to make a fun event.

It’s straight toxic garbage what I am reading and sadly doesn’t make pvp in pl look glamorous to new comers

[Absolize]

Agreed.

With that being said, I will ignore anymore toxic remarks that anyone may have. As for Restoration II, let us know about Tuesday 8-10pm EST when your team replies guys and let’s have a good match.

Thanks :)

[Nihiliste]

Agreed.

With that being said, I will ignore anymore toxic remarks that anyone may have. As for Restoration II, let us know about Tuesday 8-10pm EST when your team replies guys and let’s have a good match.

Thanks :)

I’ll get back to you as soon as I can about Tuesday. I need to make sure everyone on my team can play. I’m letting you know that if we do play, I believe after 10 p.m. would work, perhaps 10:15, again, I’ll let you know.

[Absolize]

I’ll get back to you as soon as I can about Tuesday. I need to make sure everyone on my team can play. I’m letting you know that if we do play, it will likely be after 10 p.m. if that is okay.

Unfortunately, that will not work considering one of my teammates has a 5 hour gap, he is willing to play at 3am but no later than that which is completely understandable, 10pm would be the latest we could do.

[Nihiliste]

Unfortunately, that will not work considering one of my teammates has a 5 hour gap, he is willing to play at 3am but no later than that which is completely understandable, 10pm would be the latest we could do.

Is your team only available from 8-10?

[Absolize]

Is your team only available from 8-10?

Yes on Tuesday due to work.

[XghostzX]

I want you guys to take as much time as you need to get the match in, I honestly think this will be one of the most competitve games you guys will play and I'd hate for it to feel rushed. You'll thank me later :)

[Absolize]

I want you guys to take as much time as you need to get the match in, I honestly think this will be one of the most competitve games you guys will play and I'd hate for it to feel rushed. You'll thank me later :)

I appreciate the time you give us and not rushing anything!

[Iamxmayhem]

Thanks ghost I really appreciate it. And yeah a last minute dq didn’t make a lot of sense. I respect the last minute decision.it is what it is. Let’s give PL one last amazing match. The two (best) end game teams facing off against each other .with out a 1st reward . What’s the point . I agree the rule change last minute some what showed favoritism, but from restorations 1 pov. DQing restoration 2 didn’t make much sense. DQing a team in the semi finals seemed rigged for restorations 1 favor . But we’ll get this last Match in hopefully Tuesday and put on a good show. I will say that (egg) has been offering to lend gear . Which I think is illegitimate, and offense to apex. But it is what it is . Best of luck to Resto 2, I’m ready for a good match. I just don’t agree with cheating , I was looking forward to an absolute fair match with no advantage to any team. But I’m not ladder leader . So I can’t make those decisions . But as I said. Hopefully all this ends Tuesday at 8-10pm east.

[Idevour]

Thanks ghost I really appreciate it. And yeah a last minute dq didn’t make a lot of sense. I respect the last minute decision.it is what it is. Let’s give PL one last amazing match. The two (best) end game teams facing off against each other .with out a 1st reward . What’s the point . I agree the rule change last minute some what showed favoritism, but from restorations 1 pov. DQing restoration 2 didn’t make much sense. DQing a team in the semi finals seemed rigged for restorations 1 favor . But we’ll get this last Match in hopefully Tuesday and put on a good show. I will say that (egg) has been offering to lend gear . Which I think is illegitimate, and offense to apex. But it is what it is . Best of luck to Resto 2, I’m ready for a good match. I just don’t agree with cheating , I was looking forward to an absolute fair match with no advantage to any team. But I’m not ladder leader . So I can’t make those decisions . But as I said. Hopefully all this ends Tuesday at 8-10pm east.

I do not agree to taking away 1st place prizes. And i am confused as to what is cheating. I asked jen to borrow her int set but she will only lend it if i give my black dragon armor i am not doing that. So we will not be borrowing sets from jen dont worry.

[Nihiliste]

I appreciate the time you give us and not rushing anything!

If not Tuesday, what other day would you guys be able to play?

[Jilsponie]

Pretty unfair, some people didn't get to play at all...

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[Absolize]

If not Tuesday, what other day would you guys be able to play?

I’ll check with my team, but still try to make Tuesday happen. I talked to Rose in game before discussing with you all, and she said Tuesday may work for her.

[Absolize]

Team Apex’s availability for this week:

Tuesday - 8-10pm EST
Thursday - 8-10pm EST
Saturday - Anytime before 10pm EST

The reason why we can’t play past 10pm EST normally is because one of our teammates is 5 hours ahead of us, he said he can play at 3am but doesn’t want to go over that, which is understandable. And the reason weekdays usually are 8-10pm EST is because I work 7am to 7pm Sunday-Thursday.

Let’s still push for Tuesday, but if not, this is what we got. I’ll let everyone know if anything changes.

[Nihiliste]

Team Apex’s availability for this week:

Tuesday - 8-10pm EST
Thursday - 8-10pm EST
Saturday - Anytime before 10pm EST

The reason why we can’t play past 10pm EST normally is because one of our teammates is 5 hours ahead of us, he said he can play at 3am but doesn’t want to go over that, which is understandable. And the reason weekdays usually are 8-10pm EST is because I work 7am to 7pm Sunday-Thursday.

Let’s still push for Tuesday, but if not, this is what we got. I’ll let everyone know if anything changes.

I was just about to ask you about the 10pm timing if it meant we have to end before 10 or be on by 10. Thanks. I get out of work on Tuesday at 9:15, and I still have to get home after that so there would not be enough time to complete the match. It looks like we have to try for Saturday.

[Absolize]

I was just about to ask you about the 10pm timing if it meant we have to end before 10 or be on by 10. Thanks. I get out of work on Tuesday at 9:15, and I have to get home after that so there would not be enough time to complete the match. It looks like we have to try for Saturday.

No that’s not a problem, we can start at 10, he doesn’t want to start any later than that

[Iamxmayhem]

I think Tuesday would be fine if y’all can all be on by 10 on the dot . Or a little before . Cause a match shouldn’t take but 30-45 minutes max .

[Nihiliste]

I think Tuesday would be fine if y’all can all be on by 10 on the dot . Or a little before . Cause a match shouldn’t take but 30-45 minutes max .

Our match with Resto 1 was about an hour long. I can make it by 10 on the dot, but again, I need to make sure my team will be on by 10 if we play Tuesday. Also, like Will said, we have all the time we want so let’s try to make this go as smoothly as possible.

[Absolize]

Our match with Resto 1 was about an hour long. I can make it by 10 on the dot, but again, I need to make sure my team will be on by 10 if we play Tuesday. Also, like Will said, we have all the time we want so let’s try to make this go as smoothly as possible.

Yeah well 10 is fine and not a problem for any of us. So make sure you let us know

[Absolize]

Has Rose replied to you guys about tomorrow night?

[Nihiliste]

Has Rose replied to you guys about tomorrow night?

We’re good for 10 pm.

[Absolize]

We’re good for 10 pm.

Okay bro, see you guys then!

[Absolize]

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Good game, Restoration II! This was definitely a very challenging game and I look forward to more tournaments with you all! This definitely was one to remember :)


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[JJXEJECT]

Who’s that sexy guy in the chat :rapture:

[Xyzther]

Gg! Tourney finally done. Let’s hope we see more tournaments in the near future... also with less drama and scheduling conflicts please :p

[Fwend]

Congratulations to Team Apex winning the CTF 5vs5 tourney.

Despite all the drama and controversy in this tournament, I do hope everyone enjoyed themselves.

This will be a steep learning curve for any future tournaments hosted by anyone on game.

A big thank you to Ghost for hosting this with his unconditional, time and effort.

[Nihiliste]

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Good game, Restoration II! This was definitely a very challenging game and I look forward to more tournaments with you all! This definitely was one to remember :)


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Good game. It was fun. Thank you Ghost for your hard work in hosting the tourney. I appreciate you.

[Iamxmayhem]

I’m still shaking , never have I fought such a challenging team before

[Absolize]

On behalf of everyone in Apex, despite the arguments, thanks for hosting Ghost!

[IiRose]

Good games! Thanks again Ghost!

-IiRose

[XghostzX]

Congratulations to team Apex, I hope it was a good one!

I'll go ahead and PM Cinco to distribute prizes to everyone (and to have this thread locked). Please PM me if, when prizes are distributed, you have not recieved them or if there are any other issues. It's very possible that some names are mistyped or accidentally forgotten.

[Dolloway]

Congrats to Team Apex on winning, Team Resto II for being runner up, Team Legacy for best sportsmanship, and every team that participated in this tournament. Lest we not forget, thank you Ghost for hosting this tournament. Though there may have been drama and heated moments at times, you stuck it through and tried to host this 70 person tournament to the best of your ability which is no easy task. I commend you on your efforts.

I hope everyone enjoyed playing 5v5 CTF once again like the good old days because that was the main purpose of this tournament - to reignite the passion and excitement that players once had playing this mode.

Thanks to all that participated. :)

[Mine AGK]

It seems they distributed 1st place prizes to the winners. Now everyone else just needs to wait for participation.

[Buchmeister]

It was all great fun, thanks ghost!

[Jensmage]

Got my participation shield. Thank you Cinco...

[Nihiliste]

Got my participation shield. Thank you Cinco...

What color? At work.

[Jensmage]

What color? At work.

White and blue...

[Nihiliste]

White and blue...

Sweet. Pics?

[Mine AGK]

It seems they distributed 1st place prizes to the winners. Now everyone else just needs to wait for participation.

Still have yet to recieve mine. The rest of my team has recieved theirs. Im waiting patiently

[Jensmage]

I heard from a few players in the final round that Rhino Talon made the 5v5 imbalance. Like I said, Rhino Talon causes an imbalance in team PVP. Chasing, tanking proc talon, heal, and stun makes it team imbalance. Maybe it is time to update the talon proc or restrict it from rhino. I believe Cinco was focusing on balancing team play. The rhino stayed low to minimize the teams without rhino to make them think that team with rhino is PVP balanced.

Lots of players put a lot of effort and time into the tourney. They expect the tourney to be fair and balanced.

[Mine AGK]

I heard from a few players in the final round that Rhino Talon made the 5v5 imbalance. Like I said, Rhino Talon causes an imbalance in PVP. Chasing, Tanking proc talon, Heal, and Stun makes it imbalance. Maybe it is time to update the talon proc or restrict it from rhino. I believe Cinco was focusing on balancing team play. The rhino stayed low to minimize the teams without rhino to make them think that team with rhino is PVP balanced.

Rhino talon in 1v1 takes skill. Bow and dagger do not. This is why ive advocated for class based restrictions.

[Jensmage]

Rhino talon in 1v1 takes skill. Bow and dagger do not. This is why ive advocated for class based restrictions.

Plus 1 for me.

[Iamxmayhem]

If you heard this from the “players” in be final round. Let them share their comments tyvm.just because your 35k worth of enchanted plat gear didn’t win you first place, Nor the final team you lent all your gear too, doesn’t mean you have to be salty. Pretty sure ghost said this thread was closing.

[Jensmage]

If you heard this from the “players” in be final round. Let them share their comments tyvm.just because your 35k worth of enchanted plat gear didn’t win you first place, Nor the final team you lent all your gear too, doesn’t mean you have to be salty. Pretty sure ghost said this thread was closing.

I am not going to make any negative comment and have the thread closed because of negative comments. Anyways I played for players I didn't know.

I lent them a bear armor because they were nice to ask.

[Cinco]

I've added the shield vanity rewards to the list of players that I received. Items are in the stash (not your inventory).

Congratulations to everyone who participated!

[Absolize]

I've added the shield vanity rewards to the list of players that I received. Items are in the stash (not your inventory).

Congratulations to everyone who participated!

Thank you for sponsoring :)

[Iamxmayhem]

Very much appreciated cinco . The shields are beautiful

[Xyzther]

I've added the shield vanity rewards to the list of players that I received. Items are in the stash (not your inventory).

Congratulations to everyone who participated!

I did not get mine :(

[Iamxmayhem]

Cinco , I do have one question if you’ll consider it, I tried to pm on forums but not sure you receive them here. But is there anyway you could change the pinkish trim to match the white skull on the steel skull pvp shield? To make the colors match?

[Absolize]

Cinco , I do have one question if you’ll consider it, I tried to pm on forums but not sure you receive them here. But is there anyway you could change the pinkish trim to match the white skull on the steel skull pvp shield? To make the colors match?

Agreed, and maybe make the colors a bit brighter

Also, we don’t want you to look at us in a negative manner for these suggestions, Cinco. We’re very greatful. It’s just that with the trim doesn’t match anything at this point, however if the trim was white for a solid blue and white shield, we can make something happen. I love wearing it anyway but this will make it so much better, speaking on behalf of my entire team, we would love if you could grant this for us!

[XghostzX]

Again, if anyone hasn't recieved a shield, please let me know ASAP (send me a PM).

[Fwend]

Such beautiful shields

Winner shield
170327


Participation shield
170328

[Iamxmayhem]

The participation shield looks amazing . Just kind of a let down that it looks way better than the 1st place shield. I get comments like “looks like a card board version of the previous white tournament shields” and “wow the l71 and l100 tournament shields look amazing compared to that, but congrats on the win” lol.

[Fwend]

Perhaps darkening the colours of the winners sheild?

Make the yellow , gold like the black gold set.

And the sky blue, a deep blue like the participants sheild or similar to the 105 2vs2 aslyum tourney shields.

[IiRose]

Due to the winners being dissatisfied and if suggestions are permitted, I think the border and the skull should be the same color (either bright white or black), and the steel look should be emphasized and shinier since it looks a little dull. I think the zap armor gives a nice bright shiny metallic look. Perhaps the shield can adopt something similar.

-IiRose

[Absolize]

All these suggestions are awesome and what I as a owner of the shield would love to see, let’s make it happen :)

[Iamxmayhem]

Great suggestion

[bglir]

Thank you Cinco for Sponsoring the Participation shield and Thank You Ghost For Hosting CTF Tournament.

[Absolize]

Agreed ^ dispite everything this one was huge and glad it could pull through

[Congeniality]

Getting to this late, but thanks to all involved in this tournament. To think that this many players can come together and compete is awesome.

It was a lot of fun and helps show how dynamic the PL community can be despite it's size.

Special thanks to Ghost for hosting the tournament, as usual you did a stellar job <3!

Thank you!

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[Cinco]

Congrats to the winners and to everyone who participated! :-)