Feedback: Store Phase 1

[asommers]

Moving posts related to the store feedback from this thread (link (https://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?698410-2023-05-31-Content-Update-(303024))) here.

Reminder that Phase 2 is in progress and will include updates to what's available for sale in token vendors.

-ALS

[Trolzerkeinstein]

Heh. So no longer profitable to sell slots.

[Encryptions]

... Ok you guys really screwed your game up with this change.

[Trolzerkeinstein]

Hotbar, craft inv, and many more will be x3 rhe prices in auction. Gold sink maybe? But only the p2w will get richer lel

[Encryptions]

You guys now have truly made your game ultra pay to win with this store change.
Not only did you remove all purchaseable slots from token vendors in which alot people use, it crashes all of the prices for those tokens. Hauntlet, glintstone, cryostar, and story (red eggs).
Not only did that have a hurtful impact on the eco of those tokens you guys OVER PRICED (understatement) the cost of plat for the slots in the store. Like really 225 plat for 25 stash slots?!
This hurts new players, hard core players and mid game players since no one is going to be able to reasonably be able to afford those slots. No one is going to pay 15million gold for 25 stash slot kits. 225 plat is converted into an estimation of 10-15mil.
End game players (me) aren't affected by this change but it hurts your new players and mid game players a lot. I do feel you guys heavily over priced the slots in the plat store and removed the entire purpose of token vendors.

For those who don't understand.
Glintstone tokens, cryostar tokens, story tokens and hauntlet tokens were used to buy inventory slots character slots and auction slots. They removed those from the free to play vendors and put them in the plat store at an outrageous price.
Btw these slots are also counted towards APs Achievement points for your character which are supposed to be free to play obtainable. Now tell me how does a free to play hard core character obtain these?

[drawfflerz]

it keep disconnected when updating. either my connection is slow or the update package is prob.

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[Itzmemohsin]

... Ok you guys really screwed your game up with this change.What's so screwed up here ?

[mamaubear]

+ Limited quantities of the Stygian Forerunner Set are available in the Store on June 3rd and 4th!
+ Store Pass Phase 1 (Phase 1 is what is offered for Platinum and Crate Tokens, Phase 2 [in progress] will be what is offered for vendor currencies)
+ Removed Free, Bundle, Guild Battleground, Item Pack, Pet Egg, Rune, Vanity, and XP categories from the Platinum Store.
+ Added Crate Token, Event, and Housing categories to the Platinum Store.
+ Revised Platinum Store offerings and standardized all prices
+ Created missing tradable Kits for various items sold for Platinum. All Kits in the Platinum Store are now tradable.
+ Removed all slot items available for anything other than Platinum or Crate Tokens
+ Furnishing inventory slot kits from the Bard are no longer tradable (all Bard items were meant to be non-tradable)

Buset, mau naek Haji lu anjir?!??? Semua serba platinum begono?!??

[Itemstore]

Whyyyyyyyyyy did you remove dayley tokens use @.@ if you make everything crate tokens the game becomes 100% P2P


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[Balenciaqa]

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finally i can use +250 euro worth of plat to open lockeds and buy 1x 25 stash slots?


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[Pizzahub]

I feel like this store change is meant to make new ppl stop playing since everything will now cost more over all big negative

[Itzmemohsin]

Now the red egg hoarders are gonna fill the comments in here coz now red eggs literally have no use / very little use

[Itemstore]

Seriously you all got to be joking with this update. I mean I hate to say it but douse that mean your going to give all players free platinum or crate tokens for just doing dayleys like are all dayleys and quest going to give crate tokens instead of cryo or dayley or any tokens are all turning into crate tokens if that's so that's not to bad but if not y'all [emoji1787] I thought it might be a update to include new stuff to keep game going and stuff not say goodbye to all the FTP that will drastically effect p2p there won't be a use for gold in game anymore as might aswell make crate tokens and platinum tradabal currency. I actually am so shocked right now. I know this was a mistake but can you all fix it soon before the damage is to late.

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[Itzmemohsin]

I see a big retaliation coming from all the red arlorian egg hoarders , beware sts [emoji6]

[Encryptions]

They even put ankhs in the store 100x for 300 plat as if we didn't have enough.
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[Economy]

This has got to be a joke .. y’all were doin amazing updates .. then this !! Whatttt

[SusAF]

This is not 1st april .... out to be the great job but no one laughing ..... tormentizing ...

[Encryptions]

I see a big retaliation coming from all the red arlorian egg hoarders , beware sts [emoji6]I really don't think you understand the impact this change has. No one cares about red eggs. Explain to me after this change how does someone in hard core who is free to play obtain slots for their character?

[LichKing1]

killed the only reason other currencies were useful, but also seems like they were using random number generator with 3 digits to put up those plat prices cuz they r insane

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[SusAF]

I guess they are trying to make ppl leave Al by first fraud banning , then making go similar to how they abandoned star legends and now to remove everything which made this game a hit smh.

[Itzmemohsin]

I really don't think you understand the impact this change has. No one cares about red eggs. Explain to me after this change how does someone in hard core who is free to play obtain slots for their character?Actually you are right , it would become quite hard to obtain slots now

[Ploid]

agreed. wtf STS. especially since there are APs tied to those slots. APs behind paywalls defeat the purpose of APs

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[Encryptions]

agreed. wtf STS. especially since there are APs tied to those slots. APs behind paywalls defeat the purpose of APs

Sent from my GM1913 using TapatalkAlso a great point I didn't include.

[It's about drive]

Now u can t even make a new char .
And rip new players

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[Angelaxd]

I really don't think you understand the impact this change has. No one cares about red eggs. Explain to me after this change how does someone in hard core who is free to play obtain slots for their character?

It hurts because you sure invested more than 20k eggs

[Encryptions]

It hurts because you sure invested more than 20k eggsI can care less about 100mil gold I have 9999999999. Check your aps look at what they require. Maxed out slots, hmm?

[Itzmemohsin]

agreed. wtf STS. especially since there are APs tied to those slots. APs behind paywalls defeat the purpose of APs

Sent from my GM1913 using TapatalkThose APs should surely be removed just in case the store doesn't change

[Ciaoadios]

Pay to win should be like old times…

[Angelaxd]

I really don't think you understand the impact this change has. No one cares about red eggs. Explain to me after this change how does someone in hard core who is free to play obtain slots for their character?

has more interesting things to offer, don't cry

[Arraire]

Tell me how to new player play this game? LoL
Wth this updated.

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[Economy]

This will affect hoarders , seasonals , f2p players , litterly everyone who plays !! Bring back the slots in vendors !! Also you guys added more useless things into the store , nobody is going to pay 1125 crate tokens for 25 slots let’s be FR !! Instead of adding useless things .. you could add more nice things like the country banners .. who knows maybe as a backpack !! Just bring it back ~ thank you

[Angelaxd]

I can care less about 100mil gold I have 9999999999. Check your aps look at what they require. Maxed out slots, hmm?

what did you expect? easy files? go play something simple then crybaby

[Itzmemohsin]

Red eggs are just a small part of the story , even the plat egg hoarders will be massively effected by this change [Most of the rich players mainly]

[SusAF]

Why yall hating on encryptions ? They removed every vendor tokens which could let you get free inventory , stash , character slots ..... do you understand what that means ? You CANNOT buy any of those without spending Platinum now . If you are fine with it for something which has been in decade in the game which was the reasons why this game had so much love and care and new players emerging cheers for you . But that means a full on messed up situation .

[Salvatory]

257049

I thought I'd pay the same price.

[GucciBang]

Caguei nas calças

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[Arraire]

This is not balancing the economy in the game, but breaking the system.
Who wants to pay 75 plates for 25 Invent slots? Are you going to make this p2w game and ban ban ban as you wish?
I know that every developer wants to benefit from the application he makes, but not like this.

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[Ivanex]

Goodbye AL [emoji17]

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[Arraire]

Red eggs are just a small part of the story , even the plat egg hoarders will be massively effected by this change [Most of the rich players mainly]Whoever hoards plat egg smiles as wide as possible, and whoever hoards red eggs cries in a corner.

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[Itzmemohsin]

I think they have some other plans for the vendor tokens as the patch notes above clearly state that phase 2 is in progress which includes vendor changes

[Ikosevy]

with this update, will we be able to easily get plat/crate tokens in the next? maybe from the next event we can easily get plat like getting event tokens?
can u guys tell the reason behind this very influential update, or maybe tell your next plan after making this change..
ty..

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[Lionzone]

What they should do now they make game so pay to win reduce plat cost by 35% plats are too expensive

[|Ares|]

Character slot kit from 12 to 50 crate tokens per slot...? Is this the way to fight with making multiple alts to compete on the leaderboards? Sort of...?
Also the fact that all casual vanities from the store are gone and not replaced with anything, well...

[Nouts]

the game is really changing to become fully p2w, unbelievably negative this change, a new player needs to open 370 locks to get 25 stash slot in the store for buying with crate tokens? lol
this is total madness, if considered platinum to the dollar or the euro many players are already harmed because the economy is different, in my country the Dollar is 5x more, and the Euro 6 or 7x more, it was not enough to suffer with the dispute of Plat user vs Farm user?
We already suffer from a lack of slots to save items, imagine now with a next update... the game was going so well that I was already wondering.

[Ivanex]

They even put ankhs in the store 100x for 300 plat as if we didn't have enough.
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https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230531/219b554a6583a3c300619f81e73c0545.jpgOMG! Woot woot [emoji857][emoji857][emoji857]

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[Itemstore]

Why yall hating on encryptions ? They removed every vendor tokens which could let you get free inventory , stash , character slots ..... do you understand what that means ? You CANNOT buy any of those without spending Platinum now . If you are fine with it for something which has been in decade in the game which was the reasons why this game had so much love and care and new players emerging cheers for you . But that means a full on messed up situation .I fully agree to have a p contest over a player right now y'all just stupid like I wouldn't even say you have a brain sell if you clearly can't work out how damaging this update is I mean foreal guys grow up If you just want to troll quite already because this will effect every player in the game negatively EVERYONE THE GAME ITSELF) and if you can't see that God speed for you lot cuz you going to struggle in life.

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[Itzmemohsin]

Character slot kit from 12 to 50 crate tokens per slot...? Is this the way to fight with making multiple alts to compete on the leaderboards? Sort of...?
Also the fact that all casual vanities from the store are gone and not replaced with anything, well...Those casual vanities were there in the store from wayy too long , i don't think anyone is gonna miss them , they didn't even look particularly good looking

[drawfflerz]

at last, a great movement from AL 1.0 to AL 2.0.. more great update soon, such as different idle movement, a new system to the char power, maybe we can have tank type mage after this.

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[Switchback]

If you need money that bad i suggest uber eats or the like, it is a good side job.

[Arraire]

We'll follow up on what their future plans are like, according to the previous thread, they said there would be a new dungeon.
I don't know, in the dungeon there will be a replacement for the previous slot, or even none at all.
Or maybe a plan that will fail?

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[Itzmemohsin]

Probably they have some future plans , just give them time and wait for their reply

[mamaubear]

at last, a great movement from AL 1.0 to AL 2.0.. more great update soon, such as different idle movement, a new system to the char power, maybe we can have tank type mage after this.

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yes yes i want my warrior carried massive staff everywhere and can do agile movement like rogue did... yes yes

[Itzmemohsin]

The devs probably have some future plans , i don't think the devs made those decisions without any thought put into it , just give them time to reply

[Nouts]

Probably they have some future plans , just give them time and wait for their replyshould further increase the value, really future plans.

[MegaVordred]

I haven't posted in a while, nor have I voiced any complaints about the game, but in all the years I've played it, I have NEVER SEEN them decide that making this kind of change would be a great idea for the whole game. The only thing I can say is that, if you did this to make meets end on your side, it's probably one of the dirtiest things you could have ever done to us. Probably my opinion is of no significance with this topic, but I'm well aware that you might have betrayed a lot of players' trust, both new and old.

Please educate and prove us wrong otherwise if this change IS a good idea at all.

[|Ares|]

Those casual vanities were there in the store from wayy too long , i don't think anyone is gonna miss them , they didn't even look particularly good looking

You're missing out the point. Those vanities are just another relic that will skyrocket in price and get manipulated over the time.
Besides, 450 crate tokens for a tradable hotbar slot kit? That can't be right.

[Trolzerkeinstein]

A good feedback from this is to let us know like a week or two before patches like this because it's kinda messed up that you just do it without notifying us beforehand (esp with a big update like this). @STS

[marsu4u]

This update may need a work around especially the plat/crate token costs seems too much. Maybe at least make it so that people can use daily story tokens for everything too but of course they need to farm everyday for it. Or make it so that other currencies in the game like Cryostar coins can be exchanged for crate tokens so they still have a purpose?

The only benefit of this would be if you open alot of locks you can now make gold using the crate keys which is good for p2w players like myself, but rip rest of the community.

[Itzmemohsin]

You're missing out the point. Those vanities are just another relic that will skyrocket in price and get manipulated over the time.
Besides, 450 crate tokens for a tradable hotbar slot kit? That can't be right.Bruh those are in just too many quantities already to get manipulated and doesn't matter even if they get manipulated they have been in store for quite a great long amount of time , its high time they get removed or replaced

[GucciBang]

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[Iuna]

A good feedback from this is to let us know like a week or two before patches like this because it's kinda messed up that you just do it without notifying us beforehand (esp with a big update like this). @STS

This, should give few weeks or even a month notice beforehand

[navabi]

This decision is so disappointing to see, you say you nerf gold loot for newbies to catch up but then you pull this stunt??? How does it benefit in anyway new players?

Please see that this is wrong. Personally i won’t put another cent into this game until this is fixed and i know i’m not the only one.


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[Encryptions]

Lets see the cost.
Maximum inventory aps- 175,000,000
Maximum craft inventory- 175,000,000
Maximum furnish - 1-2m due to house event.
Maximum auction slots - 440,000,000
Maximum house slots - 35m due to event.
Maximum stash slots - 525,000,000

So, is it really reasonable for 600 aps to cost 1.3bil gold. Is it really reasonable in order to max your slots you need 1.3bil gold?

[Thewolfbull]

Why was this changed? It will only hurt new players.

[navabi]

Lets see the cost.
Maximum inventory aps- 175,000,000
Maximum craft inventory- 175,000,000
Maximum furnish - 1-2m due to house event.
Maximum auction slots - 440,000,000
Maximum house slots - 35m due to event.
Maximum stash slots - 525,000,000

So, is it really reasonable for 600 aps to cost 1.3bil gold. Is it really reasonable in order to max your slots you need 1.3bil gold?

Damn that’s beyond outrageous, thanks for making the math. I hope sts sees this and AT THE VERY LEAST make serious adjustments to the mess they made:))


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[Trolzerkeinstein]

Gold sink. Only the p2w gets richer.

[Polosam]

Everything else is fine for being removed, but why the free movement speed elixir [emoji24]

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[yerrisin]

please don't make game tokens useless[emoji45][emoji29]

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[Angelaxd]

Option for map coins (regarding "general" slots) The ideal way to not lose the value of a city's currency is to increase the cost of slots, for example (if it's worth 100 cryostar coins, it's now worth 400 coins). The best thing is that "FTP" players have a way to buy more accessible spaces but now they are more expensive

[Erotismo]

+ Limited quantities of the Stygian Forerunner Set are available in the Store on June 3rd and 4th!
+ Store Pass Phase 1 (Phase 1 is what is offered for Platinum and Crate Tokens, Phase 2 [in progress] will be what is offered for vendor currencies)
+ Removed Free, Bundle, Guild Battleground, Item Pack, Pet Egg, Rune, Vanity, and XP categories from the Platinum Store.
+ Added Crate Token, Event, and Housing categories to the Platinum Store.
+ Revised Platinum Store offerings and standardized all prices
+ Created missing tradable Kits for various items sold for Platinum. All Kits in the Platinum Store are now tradable.
+ Removed all slot items available for anything other than Platinum or Crate Tokens
+ Furnishing inventory slot kits from the Bard are no longer tradable (all Bard items were meant to be non-tradable)So sad about the updated, just making more harder for new players:( no one think on our kids? Ah xd

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[Apocalyptis]

What the hell are even these changes.. when I first read about revamping various token vendors all around arlor, I was so excited they would add some new useful stuff that we can buy - even unlockeds would do it at this point.. turns out they actually removed only useful ftp stuff and replaced it with plat bought tokens in store.. wow wtf

[Goldencry]

257049

I thought I'd pay the same price.

pq q seu plat é mais barato q o meu ?

[jojocooll]

As you started, in one year they will remove gold from the game and everything will be bought with platinum and even at auction?????? Will we have to pay mana and health in plats?????????????

[Hellablaze]

As a new or f2p players? or even old players..

[Nouts]

Impossible............

[Switchback]

Im sure they will add back some things with increased prices ect. The thing im having trouble understanding is where are the updates for your players. There is a big list of things and all the game gets is a more robust monetization.

You should learn to release things together, not just stuff for your company then whenever you get around to it you do an update for the players.

[GucciBang]

The word "free" no longer existshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20230531/02c4f0d4854d320b9d19c305eae0d4d6.jpg

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[Nouts]

pq q seu plat é mais barato q o meu ?Porque voce usa iphone, tenque pagar mais caro pra aprender que android e melhor.

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[Corviness]

Ffs sts hates us freeplayers! Literally fell to greed and shoving us out the door. Nerfling wasn't enough now we can't get slots.

[Okc]

Rip tokens

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[Okc]

Rip new players

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[wrathfulcat]

Did they remove encryptions thread? [emoji88]

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[Delouis Ball]

+ Limited quantities of the Stygian Forerunner Set are available in the Store on June 3rd and 4th!
+ Store Pass Phase 1 (Phase 1 is what is offered for Platinum and Crate Tokens, Phase 2 [in progress] will be what is offered for vendor currencies)
+ Removed Free, Bundle, Guild Battleground, Item Pack, Pet Egg, Rune, Vanity, and XP categories from the Platinum Store.
+ Added Crate Token, Event, and Housing categories to the Platinum Store.
+ Revised Platinum Store offerings and standardized all prices
+ Created missing tradable Kits for various items sold for Platinum. All Kits in the Platinum Store are now tradable.
+ Removed all slot items available for anything other than Platinum or Crate Tokens
+ Furnishing inventory slot kits from the Bard are no longer tradable (all Bard items were meant to be non-tradable)Asommers, as a Heavy P2W player, I do not approve these changes.

I have spent over 300,000 platinum on this game, and this is by far one of the worst changes you guys have ever made.

This will decline the population of the game, causing people to quit, and substantially lowering the amount of income this game generates.

I would highly suggest, reversing all changes made to vendors in regards to slot kits, etc. (Inventory, stash, auction, character, housing, etc).

I understand the game has needed a gold sink, but this is too far. I have 7 characters fully maxed out in every capacity, so it doesn't affect me (right now), but it will affect EVERYONE in the present and future.

For the sake of the game, please fix this ... mistake.

I know this will probably get lost in the comments but sometimes when I’m home alone I like to go out in my garden and cover myself with dirt and pretend I’m a carrot.

[Paktwo]

Don't panic it's organic those slots will drop n the coming new map

[Okc]

Grabe ba sa totoo lang

Rip F2P

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[Okc]

Mas malala pato sa motivational rice

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[Jiubara]

cant u all wait for phase 2 (vendor changes)?

[Okc]

F2P Forced To Pay

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[Nouts]

F2P Forced To Pay

Sent from my 23021RAAEG using TapatalkYe or pay or stop.

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[Apocalyptis]

Asommers, as a Heavy P2W player, I do not approve these changes.

I have spent over 300,000 platinum on this game, and this is by far one of the worst changes you guys have ever made.

This will decline the population of the game, causing people to quit, and substantially lowering the amount of income this game generates.

I would highly suggest, reversing all changes made to vendors in regards to slot kits, etc. (Inventory, stash, auction, character, housing, etc).

I understand the game has needed a gold sink, but this is too far. I have 7 characters fully maxed out in every capacity, so it doesn't affect me (right now), but it will affect EVERYONE in the present and future.

For the sake of the game, please fix this ... mistake.

I know this will probably get lost in the comments but sometimes when I’m home alone I like to go out in my garden and cover myself with dirt and pretend I’m a carrot.

Well said..

[Okc]

Hindi na ikaw yung arcane na kilala ko

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[Kflixxx]

If they gonna make the game like this they really jus need to divide it like if they remove character slots auc slots all the sorts of stuff like that in exchange for crate tokens it should be way less, 150 crate token is worth more than 150 plat ,every 5 plat is one token coming from locks , jus a 0 needs to be took so it ain fully outrageous for the ppl instead of 150 250 should be 15 and 25


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[Okc]

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[Vrazicak]

L update.
.
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[Okc]

Baka na koto kangaeru na yo

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[Vrazicak]

If you guys need more money why don't you implement a monthly based subscription like almost every mmo rpg game? I'm sure a lot of people would support you and buy the subscription if it was decent.

[José victor gomes]

space doesn't get tired of surprising it wasn't enough to reduce the gold of the zodiac bosses, now they also took away the slots that are essential for new players like season and hc. It really wants to make a part of the players give up the game, in addition to making the game boring and unfair for new players, the funniest thing about it is the censorship in deleting the players' opinion topic about what we think about it.

[snakeeyes]

I think STS did'nt do the right way here, @Dev you need to read what Encryptions said and listen to him.

[ConradoMoreno]

If you guys want to change your game maybe show at the top of screen how many players are online ? Also you can guys delete all these tokens from game it's useless now, in other games tokens are so useful but not in Al haha, I propose a platinium sale so ppl can taste your amazing changes :D

[ConradoMoreno]

Also game is mostly based on events, and when it's event like forgotten (when you have to spend 1m for 10minute run,or some temple events) what new/mid playes can do in the game? NOTHING

[ConradoMoreno]

you don't listen to your own players' opinions, you just delete their posts on the forum where they tell the truth and express their opinions

[Delouis Ball]

Let's have a civilized discussion about the new update and removal of the usefull items from vendors.

Also, the exponential... (1000x increase) to the cost of slots via crate tokens.

Why was this change made?

Any benefits?

I strictly only see negatives here, I truly believe something has to be done in regard to the change, otherwise this game will literally die within a year.

Ign - Interrupting/Disrupts

I know this will probably get lost in the comments but sometimes when I’m home alone I like to go out in my garden and cover myself with dirt and pretend I’m a carrot.

[Encryptions]

My view on this.
Game has 3 groups of players, New, Mid, End. This change hurts new and mid players since they do not have alot of gold nor all of the slots unlocked. End game is unharmed since 99% has maxed slots but they are rich. This only hurts mid and new players since they can't afford or obtain the kits due to the plat and gold price being so high that no one will logically buy these things to try and sell them.

[Deadsuperman]

Yo this is coming from someone who spends a crap ton of plat, im not spending a single plat just to upgrade my hardcore slots that's abusrd. Not to mention how much plat it costs that's way to expensive

- [emoji14]

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[Nouts]

My view on this.
Game has 3 groups of players, New, Mid, End. This change hurts new and mid players since they do not have alot of gold nor all of the slots unlocked. End game is unharmed since 99% has maxed slots but they are rich. This only hurts mid and new players since they can't afford or obtain the kits due to the plat and gold price being so high that no one will logically buy these things to try and sell them.not just beginners and average, old players will also not play seasonally anymore because it's unbearable to play with few slots having to turn off items every run that happens.
I think that if the idea was really to make future events for this type of slot it should have been postponed to the next season so it doesn't hurt who is running at the moment,
so I wait for the roadmap att to decide if I keep or give up my seasons.

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[Apocalyptis]

It just seems wrong for all types of players. Not even mentioning hardcore.

Not seeing any benefits nor valid reason for unreal prices like these. It is absurd.
Hope the so called “phase 2” will make everything alright

[Nouts]

It just seems wrong for all types of players. Not even mentioning hardcore.

Not seeing any benefits nor valid reason for unreal prices like these. It is absurd.
Hope the so called “phase 2” will make everything alrighttrue, hardcores suffer even more I don't even have stash to store items, my warrior is at 900/1k items and I don't want to start deleting my vanities, imagine new accounts that will only have the option to buy for platinum, hardcore every day becomes more p2w, no longer hardcore sorry is buycore or platcore.

[laqain]

Revert this change immediately absolutely terrible decision. Ain’t no way someone thought this was a good idea.


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[Titanium]

at last, a great movement from AL 1.0 to AL 2.0.. more great update soon, such as different idle movement, a new system to the char power, maybe we can have tank type mage after this.

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What are you smoking?

[termi330]

(Phase 1 is what is offered for Platinum and Crate Tokens, Phase 2 [in progress] will be what is offered for vendor currencies)
Wait for the Phase 2, we don't know what they're planning..

If you guys need more money why don't you implement a monthly based subscription like almost every mmo rpg game? I'm sure a lot of people would support you and buy the subscription if it was decent.
Yeah that would be cool like small little "battle pass" thing, that you collect everyday or you have to do extra dailies for goodies.

[Luckycharmx]

Please you guys might reconsider this move. Specially the slots


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[HappyDINO]

Dear Game Developers,

I hope this message finds you well. I wanted to take a moment to provide some feedback regarding the recent update to the game. While I appreciate the efforts you put into enhancing the gaming experience, I wanted to express my concerns about the changes made to the availability of inventory expansion kits.

The decision to remove these kits from the market for free-to-play players and subsequently making them available at significantly higher prices for pay-to-win players has had a noticeable impact on the game's balance and progression. As a free-to-play player myself, I've observed that this change has made it increasingly challenging to expand my inventory and effectively manage my in-game items.

I understand that monetization is essential for the sustainability of the game, but I believe there could be alternative solutions to address this issue without creating an imbalance between different types of players. One potential solution could be to introduce alternative methods for free-to-play players to obtain inventory expansion kits, such as through in-game achievements or events.

I want to emphasize that I value the hard work you put into the game and the difficult decisions you have to make. My intention is to provide constructive feedback that I believe could improve the overall gaming experience for all players. I also want to highlight the importance of maintaining a fair and enjoyable environment for both free-to-play and pay-to-win players.

I would like to share some specific examples of how this change has affected not only my own gameplay experience but also the experiences of other players in the community. By considering these real-world instances, you can gain a deeper understanding of the impact of the update.

"Before the update, I was able to obtain inventory expansion kits through completing daily quests and participating in special events. This allowed me to gradually increase my inventory space and manage my items efficiently. However, with the recent changes, these opportunities have been removed, leaving free-to-play players with limited options to expand their inventory organically."

"I have spoken with several members of the community who have expressed their frustration with the update. One player shared their experience of diligently saving in-game currency to purchase inventory expansion kits, only to find out that they were no longer available in the market. This sudden removal has not only devalued their efforts but also hindered their ability to progress and enjoy the game fully."

Thank you for taking the time to read my feedback. I understand that implementing every suggestion may not be feasible, but I hope you will consider the concerns raised by the player community when making future decisions. Your continued dedication to the game and the community is genuinely appreciated.

Best regards,
Happydino

[Sucr]

Please increase the cost of Stash/Inventory slots, the current price is extremely cheap and absurd.

- Thank you.

[Delouis Ball]

Please increase the cost of Stash/Inventory slots, the current price is extremely cheap and absurd.

- Thank you.You have got to be a troll.

I know this will probably get lost in the comments but sometimes when I’m home alone I like to go out in my garden and cover myself with dirt and pretend I’m a carrot.

[Irg]

Sarcasm
/ˈsärˌkazəm/
noun
the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.

[Titanium]

Furnishing slots which we have from jarl event became untradeable. Well this is something which i dont like. These items were tradeable when we got them. Now how come they became untradeable due to this update. Im pretty sure this wasn’t a mistake.


Ofc course there is also the fact that you didnt give us a plat sale with so many vanities in store. This time i think you are making a mistake especially towards free players. And this is said by someone who supports the game. Please make sure you wont undo this by giving 30 crate tokens per chest opening. Cause some of us asked for the vendor to get an update. Well this is something which we weren’t looking for. Please undo this update.

[Darndamsel]

I just took my 6th character to Apotheosis last night. I sincerely hope you roll back this slot/token change, otherwise I won't be making any additional hardcore, seasonal or alt toons in the future. Making a change like this with zero warning is really unfair to those of us who've been grinding for tokens in preparation for next season. Please reconsider!

[Jiubara]

just wait for phase 2, vendor changes..
i for 1 like that i can buy house slots for crate tokens now, +1 from me nice change (:

[Fkned]

Make crate tokens a 1-1 conversion to plat used opening a chest. Or more. Make all vendor currencies able to be converted to crate tokens at whatever rate seems reasonable. Crate tokens can then be universally used to purchase anything that was able to be bought before, and vendor tokens hold value still.

[lelmapachel]

Nice, instead of helping to drop the inflation, now u guys make it up more hahahaha, those who said all portal needed the nerf i want to see what u guys say now, more hard to get gold more hard to make u op or a bit op


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[Yousef Hanoun]

Am very disappointed of the new inventory slots update! 75 platinum for only 25 inventory slots is very bad for everyone.

[Susanne]

You guys now have truly made your game ultra pay to win with this store change.
Not only did you remove all purchaseable slots from token vendors in which alot people use, it crashes all of the prices for those tokens. Hauntlet, glintstone, cryostar, and story (red eggs).
Not only did that have a hurtful impact on the eco of those tokens you guys OVER PRICED (understatement) the cost of plat for the slots in the store. Like really 225 plat for 25 stash slots?!
This hurts new players, hard core players and mid game players since no one is going to be able to reasonably be able to afford those slots. No one is going to pay 15million gold for 25 stash slot kits. 225 plat is converted into an estimation of 10-15mil.
End game players (me) aren't affected by this change but it hurts your new players and mid game players a lot. I do feel you guys heavily over priced the slots in the plat store and removed the entire purpose of token vendors.

For those who don't understand.
Glintstone tokens, cryostar tokens, story tokens and hauntlet tokens were used to buy inventory slots character slots and auction slots. They removed those from the free to play vendors and put them in the plat store at an outrageous price.
Btw these slots are also counted towards APs Achievement points for your character which are supposed to be free to play obtainable. Now tell me how does a free to play hard core character obtain these?
Exactly, well said. This will kill AL for sure. It's already struggling to keep players and now Devs have made it virtually unplayable for new and mid range players.
To say I'm disappointed is an understatement.
I'm not bothered about red eggs, I open mine anyway as do a lot of endgamers.
Maybe Devs should get more in touch with what's going on ingame.
I think what you have done is cruel.

[Yousef Hanoun]

Very good point! I agree with you!

[PLTS]

I only see this as a way to force new players to P2P or eventually leave game. I hope you have something up your sleeves, sts.

[Yousef Hanoun]

Very negative of the inventory change in game! Guess everyone agrees with me

[Yousef Hanoun]

I love your thumbnail xD

[imfeared]

A lot of transparency is needed rn @devs
Phase 2 is in the works would be great to know what could be implemented next

[ItsNotOrange]

New player will stay at 25 inventory and stash forever lol

[EynSeren]

You guys now have truly made your game ultra pay to win with this store change.
Not only did you remove all purchaseable slots from token vendors in which alot people use, it crashes all of the prices for those tokens. Hauntlet, glintstone, cryostar, and story (red eggs).
Not only did that have a hurtful impact on the eco of those tokens you guys OVER PRICED (understatement) the cost of plat for the slots in the store. Like really 225 plat for 25 stash slots?!
This hurts new players, hard core players and mid game players since no one is going to be able to reasonably be able to afford those slots. No one is going to pay 15million gold for 25 stash slot kits. 225 plat is converted into an estimation of 10-15mil.
End game players (me) aren't affected by this change but it hurts your new players and mid game players a lot. I do feel you guys heavily over priced the slots in the plat store and removed the entire purpose of token vendors.

For those who don't understand.
Glintstone tokens, cryostar tokens, story tokens and hauntlet tokens were used to buy inventory slots character slots and auction slots. They removed those from the free to play vendors and put them in the plat store at an outrageous price.
Btw these slots are also counted towards APs Achievement points for your character which are supposed to be free to play obtainable. Now tell me how does a free to play hard core character obtain these?

Super agree with this. I am also in end game player (maxed mosty in slots) but I think this is not fair for new people and who’s starting the game.

The prices are way ridiculous. They will be a having a hardtime SMH.


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[Jembut]

+1 mantap min, sekarang semua serba mahal sembako naik, susu bayi naik, popok bayi naik apa apa naik belum lagi cicilan membengkak kredit motor belum lunas mending fokus jualan platinum aja min ngapain mikirin pemain, yang penting cuan bos... anak istri lebih utama.


#Jembut

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[mamaubear]

If you guys need more money why don't you implement a monthly based subscription like almost every mmo rpg game? I'm sure a lot of people would support you and buy the subscription if it was decent.

this for phase 2 bro, keep watching

[Switchback]

When you say 'In Progress', is there any idea of when it will be released...

[Xan]

Furnishing slots which we have from jarl event became untradeable. Well this is something which i dont like. These items were tradeable when we got them. Now how come they became untradeable due to this update. Im pretty sure this wasn’t a mistake.

agree please make those tradeable again since it was before. You could have also alteast give us 1 day to spend the currency token before removing those. I myself takes the daily bard quest just to buy slots and now were gone

[Aleenacosc]

Can we see a preview of this "black forerunner" or is it the heraldic ?

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[Greazemk]

This is done. Or revert it back. I don't have any reason to continue playing with those changes, player base will continue to decline. I don't know what is stopping you guys from reverting it back, the first 5 pages is already enough evidence that this decision is terrible and game breaking. Is greed too hard to fight against?

[Jacobwk02]

has more interesting things to offer, don't cry

Nope. No interesting things added. Just revamped all the slots we could get before from vendors and made it into p2p. He’s not gonna be crying since he mentioned in his vid he’s an end game player. Only ones who will be crying are beginners or mid game players.


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[Naaabmage]

Greed at its finest...welp they really just milking this cow for everything now...Imma be packing up n moving on from this game soon this game is such a joke now lol ...this is one of the worst updates I have ever seen smh STS

[Deadsuperman]

just wait for phase 2, vendor changes..
i for 1 like that i can buy house slots for crate tokens now, +1 from me nice change (:Ayo lemme see your house haha we throwing a party

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[Susanne]

No trade permit for tokens? What about getting rid of the outdated pet crates for story tokens? For a long time vendors have nothing worth buying except for slots.
It just doesn't make sense and it's not good business acumen.
People who regularly purchase plat are already saying they won't in future.
They are voicing their opinions ingame now and it's not looking good for Spacetime.
I just hope you have a plan that helps new and mid players because endgame players aren't happy with the changes.
Would be good to hear what the next move is.

[okisok]

please sts.. make changes for better.. not for worse like this update..

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[Refexa]

Its just make new/mid player struggling, There will be no "new player" and ppl just leaving... and for long term maybe ppl get bored with just a few player left and maybe they quite too.
Increasing price in npc token vendor or decreasing quantities is fine but if there no inventory kit its just weird and make no sense.
I hope phase 2 will fix it :)

[Coxar]

Seriously like why....remove the inventory slots from token vendors..it shows everyone STS doesn't care about FUN, just making platinum....the events themselves are already not very much fun just all about spending money...where's the fun events ..get it through your thick skull, people spend money to have fun, not so you can extort more money from them. It's very sad alot of players like me give stuff away and help F2P players because eventually they become end game players.
I think I'll find a different game to play ... almost 4b net worth and 500 house slots...not worth it if STS doesn't care about its players....wait this sounds like what people said about blizzard.

[Jdjd]

Don t cry all of you, every time something new added all player spread toxicity, game bad game dead but you still playing it nowdays. Be smart and quit it

[Aayushh007]

I'm pretty sure , it will get normalized by time.
It's like a big change for us, and we feel it's too bad, but let's hope There's a good reason behind it.
And if game is becoming p2w then ,you can change game anytime.
Sts- It is what it is. ;)

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[Aayushh007]

[QUOTE=Aayushh007;4035110]I'm pretty sure , it will get normalized by time.
It's like a big change for us, and we feel it's too bad, but let's hope There's a good reason behind it.
And if game is becoming p2w then ,you can change game anytime.
Sts- It is what it is. ;)





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[Drkaq]

Lololololol

[Maryher]

Youre going too much. Yall already made a ton of money these day by selling elixer for almost every event need that fkg elixer for 10 plat. Then today you did this ridiculous fk fk fk

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[kevin11]

y'all make a lot of effort to make the game bad lol it's amazing

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[snakeeyes]

I think sts has better plan, thats why they did this update, but for better @Dev you better read Encryp

[Lowballerz]

Greedy devs

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[snakeeyes]

I think sts has better plan, thats why they did this update, but for better @Dev you better read Encryptions reactions about this update for better not for worst.

[JustAMage]

Greedy game developers who just care about milking their player base. L Update and proof the game is dying

[drawfflerz]

we are going back to time when there is no slot sale on vendor... maybe dev know better. but for dev please reduce the price. maybe for USD user its looking cheap. but when convert to other country currency it took about 1/4 of their salary for supporting this game.

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[Itzmemohsin]

Ye , new players would surely have quite a hard time , unless you have some better plans for phase 2

[Aleenacosc]

-1 for sts "anothahh one"

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[Itzmemohsin]

Oh ye , actually a great idea just hit my mind, you could have a premium pass that would cost a minimal amount per month and it would provide unlimited stash inventory and auction slots and max hotbar and crafting slots + other stuff [platinum , ankhs , awake gems , bound vanites] . I personally don't spend money on the game , but if it costs a minimal amount like other games i would surely pay for it if it's that appealing :)

[Angelaxd]

Nope. No interesting things added. Just revamped all the slots we could get before from vendors and made it into p2p. He’s not gonna be crying since he mentioned in his vid he’s an end game player. Only ones who will be crying are beginners or mid game players.


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new player? I've been playing for years and I've never had a problem with inventory, I have everything maxed out and it never fills up, craft inventory doesn't go above 150 for many years, main inventory rarely fills up and is easily removed, the "player nuevo" will not have problems because Máximo will spend enough to maintain a balance between what he occupies and what he does not occupy (you said a new and medium player, so do not put the problem file because it is a separate problem)

[Maryher]

new player? I've been playing for years and I've never had a problem with inventory, I have everything maxed out and it never fills up, craft inventory doesn't go above 150 for many years, main inventory rarely fills up and is easily removed, the "player nuevo" will not have problems because Máximo will spend enough to maintain a balance between what he occupies and what he does not occupy (you said a new and medium player, so do not put the problem file because it is a separate problem)You have no point at all just stfu

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[Angelaxd]

My view on this.
Game has 3 groups of players, New, Mid, End. This change hurts new and mid players since they do not have alot of gold nor all of the slots unlocked. End game is unharmed since 99% has maxed slots but they are rich. This only hurts mid and new players since they can't afford or obtain the kits due to the plat and gold price being so high that no one will logically buy these things to try and sell them.

Where do you get that "no one will buy that" statistic? everyone said that they would not buy arcane weapons for more than 100 million and look what they are worth, they even sell, you make up many stories playing vigilante putting the theme "the new player" you think a lot about the "new players" that you even bought in the expansion 76 all arcane armor to resell them expensive, you are a price manipulator.
You exaggeratedly bought elondriana beds for 1 game error and you wanted to get gold for that error and you still complain in the forum because they took away your sales, if you defend the new Players so much because you manipulate prices to scam people, because the so famous " youtuber" abuses an error and instead of reporting the error you prefer to abuse it, you are nobody to talk about justice and bring up the subject of "new players" when you yourself abused their money by manipulating prices

[Angelaxd]

You have no point at all just stfu

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Send me a friend of yours who speaks Spanish so it translates better than this browser, because everything I said makes sense and is 100% coherent to understand why the administrators did this, it was too EASY

[sixzy]

slots should be readily available for all, specially inventory, stash, crafting and furnishing… its not fun having it low.

[Corviness]

The gold loot nerf just wasn't good enough of a blow to us freeplayer's and now you take away slots bought with tokens and made them as a Plat purchase. With gold loot nerf we will not be able to afford to buy the slots even through the auction which will be more then likely over 25 -30 million each. This also makes it impossible to achieve those aps attached to slots. I'm sure this will hurt seasonal & hardcore players as well. This update hurts freeplayer's the most beyond your comprehend and makes it very clear sts hates us. You're shoving freeplayer's out the door because you gain zero dollars from us. Is truly sicken sts fell to selfish greed.

[Angelaxd]

slots should be readily available for all, specially inventory, stash, crafting and furnishing… its not fun having it low.

I give them to you if you want to do literally "nothing" in the game, they want everything for free and that is wrong, there is no difficulty in having things, it makes the game die easy in that aspect

[Ciaoadios]

Should be like old times…

[Angelaxd]

An easy suggestion for them to play the game is that each expansion is available in spaces for inventory, stash, craft inventori... for the coins of the most difficult map, if we go up to another expansion they move the vendor to the new expansion that will exchange with the new coins from their respective map, (the cost would be expensive but they would use the map coins, right now the zodias map coins have very little relevance, their store is worthless and this is a possible good idea

[Ploid]

Where do you get that "no one will buy that" statistic? everyone said that they would not buy arcane weapons for more than 100 million and look what they are worth, they even sell, you make up many stories playing vigilante putting the theme "the new player" you think a lot about the "new players" that you even bought in the expansion 76 all arcane armor to resell them expensive, you are a price manipulator.
You exaggeratedly bought elondriana beds for 1 game error and you wanted to get gold for that error and you still complain in the forum because they took away your sales, if you defend the new Players so much because you manipulate prices to scam people, because the so famous " youtuber" abuses an error and instead of reporting the error you prefer to abuse it, you are nobody to talk about justice and bring up the subject of "new players" when you yourself abused their money by manipulating pricesI think you are typing nonsense inspite of your personal agenda against Encryption.

Having APs behind paywalls defeats the whole purpose of APs.

Most people here already have maxed inventory and stash slots, it isn't about us.

There would be no way to finish these APs except to buy Plat Eggs or to pay money.

Hoarders will be making much gold via Plat Eggs if not Red Eggs, so it doesn't really hurt hoarder contrary to your beliefs.

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[Delouis Ball]

I think you are typing nonsense inspite of your personal agenda against Encryption.

Having APs behind paywalls defeats the whole purpose of APs.

Most people here already have maxed inventory and stash slots, it isn't about us.

There would be no way to finish these APs except to buy Plat Eggs or to pay money.

Hoarders will be making much gold via Plat Eggs if not Red Eggs, so it doesn't really hurt hoarder contrary to your beliefs.

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I hoarded red eggs, Don't care.

I also have 7-8 chars fully done w/ inventory, etc. It isn't about me, it's about the playerbase. The playerbase, and game will suffer if something isn't done.

I know this will probably get lost in the comments but sometimes when I’m home alone I like to go out in my garden and cover myself with dirt and pretend I’m a carrot.

[Angelaxd]

I think you are typing nonsense inspite of your personal agenda against Encryption.

Having APs behind paywalls defeats the whole purpose of APs.

Most people here already have maxed inventory and stash slots, it isn't about us.

There would be no way to finish these APs except to buy Plat Eggs or to pay money.

Hoarders will be making much gold via Plat Eggs if not Red Eggs, so it doesn't really hurt hoarder contrary to your beliefs.

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You spend a lot on badges and pets, I don't see the problem in spending on that too in case you want to run Lb (any player knows very well that they don't even take up 250 spaces to play freely, and I repeat, if you fill your inventory you delete it in 10 seconds, I don't see the ""BIG PROBLEM""

[Angelaxd]

Should be like old times…

in the old days i farmed 1 million gold per day, the 25 inventory slots were worth almost 200k, currently more than 20 million are coming out daily in zodias with a basic team in normal mode, no complaints in this update, the comparisons with the time adjust to its value

[Repent]

Where do you get that "no one will buy that" statistic? everyone said that they would not buy arcane weapons for more than 100 million and look what they are worth, they even sell, you make up many stories playing vigilante putting the theme "the new player" you think a lot about the "new players" that you even bought in the expansion 76 all arcane armor to resell them expensive, you are a price manipulator.
You exaggeratedly bought elondriana beds for 1 game error and you wanted to get gold for that error and you still complain in the forum because they took away your sales, if you defend the new Players so much because you manipulate prices to scam people, because the so famous " youtuber" abuses an error and instead of reporting the error you prefer to abuse it, you are nobody to talk about justice and bring up the subject of "new players" when you yourself abused their money by manipulating prices

Do you even play arcane legends or do you create delusional forum posts without any validity? Please learn how a simple video game economy works before you come onto the forums and insult somebody who clearly knows what they are talking about, the bashing of encryptions is so childish. Grow up. If you want the devs' approval agreeing with an update that destroys the economy of the game is not the way to get it. All you are doing is creating unnecessary drama and misleading new players with false assumptions drawn from god knows where.

Dear developers, I hope that phase 2 of your plan will eliminate the worries that most players have with this update if not then I appreciate the fun times y'all gave me growing up playing this game but I see no reason to continue playing if the game continues down this p2w path.

PS: WHERE IS THE WARRIOR EXCLUSIVE VANITY??? #Rogue/MageLegends -__-

PPS: WHAT HAPPENED TO APPRECIATION REWARDS FOR PLAT BUYERS???

PPPS: Stop creating updates that nobody in the community asks for and listen to your customer base, don't continue to push off our suggestions, and when you say you are going to do something don't make us wait over an entire year for it.

[Angelaxd]

Do you even play arcane legends or do you create delusional forum posts without any validity? Please learn how a simple video game economy works before you come onto the forums and insult somebody who clearly knows what they are talking about, the bashing of encryptions is so childish. Grow up. If you want the devs' approval agreeing with an update that destroys the economy of the game is not the way to get it. All you are doing is creating unnecessary drama and misleading new players with false assumptions drawn from god knows where.

Dear developers, I hope that phase 2 of your plan will eliminate the worries that most players have with this update if not then I appreciate the fun times y'all gave me growing up playing this game but I see no reason to continue playing if the game continues down this p2w path.

PS: WHERE IS THE WARRIOR EXCLUSIVE VANITY??? #Rogue/MageLegends -__-

PPS: WHAT HAPPENED TO APPRECIATION REWARDS FOR PLAT BUYERS???

PPPS: Stop creating updates that nobody in the community asks for and listen to your customer base, don't continue to push off our suggestions, and when you say you are going to do something don't make us wait over an entire year for it.

Your friend insulted me a while ago and they deleted his comment for being aggressive. If you're going to defend someone, make sure you see everything he does

[Rocketlauncing]

Do you even play arcane legends or do you create delusional forum posts without any validity? Please learn how a simple video game economy works before you come onto the forums and insult somebody who clearly knows what they are talking about, the bashing of encryptions is so childish. Grow up. If you want the devs' approval agreeing with an update that destroys the economy of the game is not the way to get it. All you are doing is creating unnecessary drama and misleading new players with false assumptions drawn from god knows where.

Dear developers, I hope that phase 2 of your plan will eliminate the worries that most players have with this update if not then I appreciate the fun times y'all gave me growing up playing this game but I see no reason to continue playing if the game continues down this p2w path.

PS: WHERE IS THE WARRIOR EXCLUSIVE VANITY??? #Rogue/MageLegends -__-

PPS: WHAT HAPPENED TO APPRECIATION REWARDS FOR PLAT BUYERS???

PPPS: Stop creating updates that nobody in the community asks for and listen to your customer base, don't continue to push off our suggestions, and when you say you are going to do something don't make us wait over an entire year for it.

LMFAO, i've been stop playing since the fking stupid forgotten vanity event come out. it's been almost 1.5-2 years and plat buyers still dont have any rewards? LOL

[mamoth]

dari 2012 sampe 2023 ini update tergoblok

[Encryptions]

Your friend insulted me a while ago and they deleted his comment for being aggressive. If you're going to defend someone, make sure you see everything he doesAre you sure you weren't just reading your own comments towards me?
You constantly have insulted me for over a year on this forum and in game calling me curse words in spanish and getting people to pm me about lies you have spread about me to curse me. You got 3 banned forum accounts from insulting me.

[Elec]

I don't know who's idea this was..


I hoped you guys rather make some things drop from different maps, so we can farm different place instead of grinding same map over and over to earn golds like a job. It's supposed to be a game, a game should be fun to play, not fun to spend money on it.

It's not even gold sink. If you wanted gold sinks, you should let people buy it with gold from store.

I tried to think/understand what's in your mind or plan but can't think of anything.
What are you trying to do with this update?

[Ploid]

You spend a lot on badges and pets, I don't see the problem in spending on that too in case you want to run Lb (any player knows very well that they don't even take up 250 spaces to play freely, and I repeat, if you fill your inventory you delete it in 10 seconds, I don't see the ""BIG PROBLEM""Pets and Badges are obtainable via events. Inventory slots arent, as of yet.

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[m4qnvm]

+ Limited quantities of the Stygian Forerunner Set are available in the Store on June 3rd and 4th!
+ Store Pass Phase 1 (Phase 1 is what is offered for Platinum and Crate Tokens, Phase 2 [in progress] will be what is offered for vendor currencies)

Guys we are just in the phase 1 of things. Phase 2 is still in progress and they said items will be purchasable for vendor currencies. That means they haven't removed vendor currencies all together. IMO they could've released these changes together instead of in phases and avoided this kind of panic. Maybe there could be a reason in splitting it into 2 phases but I can't think of any. Just gotta wait and see.

[mamaubear]

Guys we are just in the phase 1 of things. Phase 2 is still in progress and they said items will be purchasable for vendor currencies. That means they haven't removed vendor currencies all together. IMO they could've released these changes together instead of in phases and avoided this kind of panic. Maybe there could be a reason in splitting it into 2 phases but I can't think of any. Just gotta wait and see.
phase 2 all about seasonal battle pass bro...

[Switchback]

All this bickering could have been avoided if you just had held off till it was 100% ready.. why would you do this to yourselves...

[AtomicSlayer]

STS did a good job on money sink from those new and mid player bank accounts, i can't believe at last sts did something really good for the game community. It so rare nowadays to find good developer who loves to milk and squeeze every single cents from our bank account. Best regard Atom!

[Corviss the Lich]

Might be the biggest blunder of all time. Look at your community, do you think they are happy with the changes y'all have made? I don't think so. I don't know the reason for the hold, but y'all gotta revert the updates back to once it was.

Sooner or later, probably sooner. Your game's player base will decline massively if those changes are indefinite, all the valid arguments are already compiled by Encryptions.

[mikesito]

has more interesting things to offer, don't cry
Aquí tenemos a la niña de papa, como la compran platinum

[Angelaxd]

Aquí tenemos a la niña de papa, como la compran platinum

I never put money into the game, at least inform yourself

[Ryu_evin]

Feed back for the plat and crate token update. Very high price. Way too expensive for slots which are the basic necessities in the game. The previous prices were fine.

Need the phase 2 asap. At the same rates they were before they were removed. If 25 inventory slot is 1000 story tokens after phase 2 update then gg. Game will be dead for real.
Dont increase the prices.

[Creepiest]

This is it END GAME+

[mikesito]

I give them to you if you want to do literally "nothing" in the game, they want everything for free and that is wrong, there is no difficulty in having things, it makes the game die easy in that aspect
Bro tu masticas agua? Si literalmente lleva 10 años siendo gratis MBECIL

[mikesito]

You spend a lot on badges and pets, I don't see the problem in spending on that too in case you want to run Lb (any player knows very well that they don't even take up 250 spaces to play freely, and I repeat, if you fill your inventory you delete it in 10 seconds, I don't see the ""BIG PROBLEM""
Do you know why rich people makes a lot of money? Because they know how to spend their money, "poor" people use to spend it on the first thing they see

[mikesito]

I never put money into the game, at least inform yourself
A que se debe el odio hacia encryptions? A ver déjame ponerme en tu lugar

[iheartu]

not in favor of removing slot items from the daily Bard. Are you going to include those inventory slots from the loot from Ally Klaas and Shazbot?

[Henrymorgan1st]

I agree with this [emoji106]

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[QuaseT]

Shouldnt have included phase 1 without phase 2 aswell as realistic prices in shop. I have high hopes for phase 2 now since it wont work otherwise.

[Henrymorgan1st]

I agree with this [emoji106]

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[Henrymorgan1st]

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[Lopsideed]

You really messed up sts and I'm really disappointed , been playing for a decade and past 2 years its just been disappointing yall making me quit, I would have done it already but I spent a lot of time on this game is kinda my childhood

[TheLastKingdom]

April fools is past alrdy, i hope this is just a bad joke..

[nathan2693]

I dunno what this update is for but it's like you're forcing the players to open locked crates and not everyone is lucky when it comes to opening crates. This update is not a very f2p friendly. It's not even a new player friendly as well since the crate tokens are not obtainable easily for them. Even new and old players are having struggles on earning hauntlet coins because some of them are getting bored with it since they're only getting one hauntlet coin per run. Same goes to story tokens where they have to wait for a day just to be able to earn another 10 story tokens. If things will stay this way, new players might have a hard time buying inventory slots other slots because players will start putting these types of items for a ridiculous amount of prices

If things will stay this way, some players might quit unless you'll increase the amount of crate tokens that we'll be receiving per events and all events must have crate tokens as rewards so that some of the new/non wealthy players will be able to catch up. Also remember, there are events where all ingredients are not tradable which will greatly affect these players who doesn't even own a lot of inventory slots

[Snaptubepro]

If you need money that bad i suggest uber eats or the like, it is a good side job.

broooooo xD, this comment is the best. Made my day hagahha.

[Snaptubepro]

I once suggested that if hardcore character can have a relic that revive them for free. Developer replied and said, its not fair to those who already paid platinum which is the only way to revive.
After this changes, my trust for them increased by 100000%.

[arthurboyle]

they cut us some slack and remove the purpose of dailies thank you sts i will not log in everyday again

[Jinakol]

Pinapatay nyo lalo yung laro e. Patay na nga pupuruhin pa ampota

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[Arraire]

Permit has gone?
Must use plat for unlock auction?

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[Angelaxd]

A que se debe el odio hacia encryptions? A ver déjame ponerme en tu lugar

those who only adore that guy for being famous and not knowing about the game are unfortunate, in expansion 66 it was worth 200k or more to have 25 main inventory spaces, 1m was cultivated daily with all day playing, currently you would get more than 100 with how little they were worth in gold if you go based on prices over time they should be worth at least 1 million other than how easy it is to buy bags of 1 map coins this increase would be the most realistic with harvesting current " "Beginners" are no excuse, we all go through that if they make it easier it only bores me more and since this guy believes he is God apart from his blind fans who do not understand the times and do not adapt to the current currency, easily STS so as not to make such a fuss. He will end up fulfilling your whim,

the locations were worth 2 million, now 10 million, things go up, understand

[Trolzerkeinstein]

I will see if that phase 2 phase 2 will fix this problem. If not, then time to uninstall the game for good.

[Enraged]

The devs probably have some future plans , i don't think the devs made those decisions without any thought put into it , just give them time to replyCould you actually stop being a suck up? Everyone with a pair of eyes and reading comprehension knows that this update is hurting the game and needs to be reverted.

What was the reasoning for this STS? There are tons of other concerning things you could've put your focus on such as making events that is ACTUALLY worthwhile but instead you took the very little happiness of F2P players or whatever is left of it. Seriously, stop ruining your game [emoji88]

[Enraged]

Lemme guess... that Phase 2 will include the exact same thing from the vendors but in smaller quantities with overpriced token requirement [emoji1782]

[Oawaoebi]

Lemme guess... that Phase 2 will include the exact same thing from the vendors but in smaller quantities with overpriced token requirement [emoji1782]

Overpriced token reqs would not even be that horrible. I rather do elite aps and buy 1 or 2 nice things with awarded tokens instead of having to farm gold to buy plat eggs from the f2p aspect.


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[Trolzerkeinstein]

most likely

I like how they said "it was never intended"
boi it's been like that since YEARS lol, what a joke

[Young2747]

so lets say : can we farm all the slots like we did in Jarl event? that is new daily .

[Greazemk]

those who only adore that guy for being famous and not knowing about the game are unfortunate, in expansion 66 it was worth 200k or more to have 25 main inventory spaces, 1m was cultivated daily with all day playing, currently you would get more than 100 with how little they were worth in gold if you go based on prices over time they should be worth at least 1 million other than how easy it is to buy bags of 1 map coins this increase would be the most realistic with harvesting current " "Beginners" are no excuse, we all go through that if they make it easier it only bores me more and since this guy believes he is God apart from his blind fans who do not understand the times and do not adapt to the current currency, easily STS so as not to make such a fuss. He will end up fulfilling your whim,

the locations were worth 2 million, now 10 million, things go up, understand

From what I see you didn't make a single sense. Everything you said are about Encryptions being famous and how jealous af you are.

Hey, those inventory slots are not purchasable by tokens anymore, are you actually a damn child with a toddler reading comprehension? Back then it was super hard to come across Orc tags, Glint/Cryo tokens and hauntlet at the same time having high demands. Arlorian eggs weren't that abundant and hoarding/stashing red eggs are incredibly painful as they do not stack.

If you still don't get it I think it's best to not to talk to you anymore. And I seriously encourage everyone to not to talk to this moron.

[Encryptions]

those who only adore that guy for being famous and not knowing about the game are unfortunate, in expansion 66 it was worth 200k or more to have 25 main inventory spaces, 1m was cultivated daily with all day playing, currently you would get more than 100 with how little they were worth in gold if you go based on prices over time they should be worth at least 1 million other than how easy it is to buy bags of 1 map coins this increase would be the most realistic with harvesting current " "Beginners" are no excuse, we all go through that if they make it easier it only bores me more and since this guy believes he is God apart from his blind fans who do not understand the times and do not adapt to the current currency, easily STS so as not to make such a fuss. He will end up fulfilling your whim,

the locations were worth 2 million, now 10 million, things go up, understand

You are extremely delusional. You say I don't know anything about the game yet I can afford 15+ kraken sets with ease by playing free to play for years, you still can't even afford to get 2k dex on your rogue.
You say the 25 inventory kits should be worth 1mil today right? This change makes the kit cost 5mil. No one is going to pay 5mil for 1 25 inventory slot bag. Especially when it would cost 195mil to max them out.
You don't understand that these kits are now LOCKED behind and EXPENSIVE platinum wall, people have to find plat buyers to buy them the inventory slot kits to sell to them, no one is going to try and sell these kits in auction due to how long they would take to sell and how much they cost in platinum. They would be better off with elite awakening gems.
Beginners shouldn't have to pay 13.5mil for 25 stash slots, they can't even get 20m with in the first month.
I am god? No I am a 22 year old man irl who plays arcane legends that owns 3 businesses with a 4th one starting up and some rental properties, but ty for putting words in my mouth and beliefs in my head.

[Angelaxd]

You are extremely delusional. You say I don't know anything about the game yet I can afford 15+ kraken sets with ease by playing free to play for years, you still can't even afford to get 2k dex on your rogue.
You say the 25 inventory kits should be worth 1mil today right? This change makes the kit cost 5mil. No one is going to pay 5mil for 1 25 inventory slot bag. Especially when it would cost 195mil to max them out.
You don't understand that these kits are now LOCKED behind and EXPENSIVE platinum wall, people have to find plat buyers to buy them the inventory slot kits to sell to them, no one is going to try and sell these kits in auction due to how long they would take to sell and how much they cost in platinum. They would be better off with elite awakening gems.
Beginners shouldn't have to pay 13.5mil for 25 stash slots, they can't even get 20m with in the first month.
I am god? No I am a 22 year old man irl who plays arcane legends that owns 3 businesses with a 4th one starting up and some rental properties, but ty for putting words in my mouth and beliefs in my head.

now you brag about what you have, impossible to argue with you and 200 guys who only follow you for fame

[Encryptions]

now you brag about what you have, impossible to argue with you and 200 guys who only follow you for fame

How else do I reply to someone's statement of "You are dumb and don't have anything"?
And its 3k+ tyvm.

[Unazhaenf]

There should have been a poll or voting system before this update was implemented just to know the community's feedback and suggestion. Pretty risky move but I hope they compensate in the future updates.

[takotako]

Bruh.. glad i used my crate keys before this silly update, i cant even afford a single item lmfao

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[Neutrone]

Just saw this update, disappointed to say the least. Hoping phase 2 is great (its not like we could change your mind to reverse this).

But really though, what was the reason for this? Like no one asked for this [emoji23]

[Angelaxd]

How else do I reply to someone's statement of "You are dumb and don't have anything"?
And its 3k+ tyvm.

Mala traducción de google, okey buscate 1 latino ya me canse de encajar en tu idioma de privilegiados, tu vida personal a nadie le interesa y menos si juegas todos los dias y estas en foro todos los dias, a tus 22 años ( curiosamente siempre juegas osea que esos negocios vienen de tus papis ) asique no presumas algo que no vino de tus manos ( aunque lo digas nadie te va crear si siempre te la pasas jugando ) respecto a lo demas si quieres discutir enserio trae un sujeto que hable el español bien sino ya da por muerto esta discusión

[Encryptions]

I wish my parents gave me a business, lmao my parents did drugs and left me homeless at 14. Working fast food and staying at friends houses.

[takotako]

I think you guys should replace the 50 story token to platinum in unlocking pet slots, i think 500 platinum should be a fair number for opening one

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[Angelaxd]

I wish my parents gave me a business, lmao my parents did drugs and left me homeless at 14. Working fast food and staying at friends houses.

Ya veo tus amigos eran drogos y sacaron negocios bajo bambalinas, todavía peor

[Encryptions]

Ya veo tus amigos eran drogos y sacaron negocios bajo bambalinas, todavía peorNo, I said parents, not friends.

[Angelaxd]

No, I said parents, not friends.

Si entendí eso, tu no me entendiste, asi es como se siente que hables un idioma que no entiendes, por eso mis comentarios no tiene logica ante ustedes

[Encryptions]

Doesn't matter, you chose to instigate me.

[Angelaxd]

No, I said parents, not friends.

Dicen mis amigos que terminaremos casados por tanto que peleamos, que dices mi rey?

[Encryptions]

I mean if you look like Selena Gomez sure.

[mamaubear]

if you need money that bad i suggest uber eats or the like, it is a good side job.

awokawokawokawokawok the best!!!!

[Rauigriu]

I think it’s clear how most of us feel about this ptp update. For what it’s worth, the item packs that you removed I was spending plat on for the many hc chars I’ve had as they were the only guaranteed mid range option for grabbing gear for my hc. Can you please add those back in.

[ishr]

As a player from the beginning of al, i have seen a lot of changes i love and hate. U introduce crafting inventory giving everyone 500 slot great, then changed it 25 and make them buy with platinum!! Why they should be bought from token vendors. Then what u do!! U need to get trade permit to do trade, understandable there was a lot of scamers at that time, tnx for not making it a platinum thing.
And now u do whaaaaat????
Ur forcing us to spend platinum to get inventory and stash slots too??? Why?

I have took break from this game time to time but u r really making me feel sorry to come pack to the game!!!!
Its becoming unplayable for new players, and its a disaster for mid game players

My biggest suggestion for the devs to start play the game as a f2p player. Then u will know what u just did

I was hoping devs will make all slots to be purchase from token vendors, deferent map deferent tokens deferent slots, but no u made Total opposite of this.
If u dont fix it i think the game will receive little to no new players and the mid game players will all get frustrated and leave the game, and your end game players....
They already have everything they will just sit on exp camp and will be called "The exp camp Models"

[ishr]

Please do whats right, make all untradeable slots purchaseable from token vendors around the arlor. Keep the tradables in the store we dont care.

[Kissability]

those who only adore that guy for being famous and not knowing about the game are unfortunate, in expansion 66 it was worth 200k or more to have 25 main inventory spaces, 1m was cultivated daily with all day playing, currently you would get more than 100 with how little they were worth in gold if you go based on prices over time they should be worth at least 1 million other than how easy it is to buy bags of 1 map coins this increase would be the most realistic with harvesting current " "Beginners" are no excuse, we all go through that if they make it easier it only bores me more and since this guy believes he is God apart from his blind fans who do not understand the times and do not adapt to the current currency, easily STS so as not to make such a fuss. He will end up fulfilling your whim,

the locations were worth 2 million, now 10 million, things go up, understand


You're a troll sent by devs to mess things up. Please tell me that I'm right.
People are complaining because this is probably one of the worst decisions ever taken by STS, it's not about personal issues with a player. And, IMHO, inflation has nothing to do with removing slots for tokens, I really don't get your point.

[Tekila]

I hope you will do something amazing enougth to compensate the effet of this for non plat users.


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[iulicutu]

Removed all slot items available for anything other than Platinum or Crate Tokens

same as most people here, i also hate this
i remember when starting the game the fact that i could expand my inventory without having to pay
was very refreshing, given how many other mmos have this behind a paywall
the same feeling was still there even after a few years because i could get some alts, do the daily on
them as well and increase my slots even further
the story tokens were the reason i logged in for entire months sometimes

you probably expected this reaction from us



Store Pass Phase 1 (Phase 1 is what is offered for Platinum and Crate Tokens, Phase 2 [in progress] will be what is offered for vendor currencies)

so what i don't understand is why now? where's the rush? it's been like this for years
why was it urgent to release phase 1 without phase 2?

given the absurd plat prices of slots i can't help but wonder how's phase 2 gonna look like?
will there still be slots for story tokens? if not you should prepare for an even worse backlash
if yes how many tokens will we have to pay for 25 slots? 1000? who's gonna do the quest 100 days for 25 slots?

[Savitar]

sts is not giving the slightest importance to the players, the bankruptcy of this game will come soon!

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[Sacodeflexas]

Matou o jogo com essa att

[Deletus]

New players can't get slot items because of the update, it's for them to remain in the game. the update is bias and focus only on old players.

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[Deletus]

New players can't get slot items because of the update, it's not for them to remain in the game. the update is bias and focuses only on old players.

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[Switchback]

They said they have a plan for those slots, it is a matter of how quickly it can be done..

[Oppa]

You guys now have truly made your game ultra pay to win with this store change.
Not only did you remove all purchaseable slots from token vendors in which alot people use, it crashes all of the prices for those tokens. Hauntlet, glintstone, cryostar, and story (red eggs).
Not only did that have a hurtful impact on the eco of those tokens you guys OVER PRICED (understatement) the cost of plat for the slots in the store. Like really 225 plat for 25 stash slots?!
This hurts new players, hard core players and mid game players since no one is going to be able to reasonably be able to afford those slots. No one is going to pay 15million gold for 25 stash slot kits. 225 plat is converted into an estimation of 10-15mil.
End game players (me) aren't affected by this change but it hurts your new players and mid game players a lot. I do feel you guys heavily over priced the slots in the plat store and removed the entire purpose of token vendors.

For those who don't understand.
Glintstone tokens, cryostar tokens, story tokens and hauntlet tokens were used to buy inventory slots character slots and auction slots. They removed those from the free to play vendors and put them in the plat store at an outrageous price.
Btw these slots are also counted towards APs Achievement points for your character which are supposed to be free to play obtainable. Now tell me how does a free to play hard core character obtain these?

Im definitely agreed with this, in my pov they want to make more $$$ by purchasing every slot mention using platinum instead of tokens only.
This update and nerf gold drops keeps players from quitting this game.


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[Cent2lose]

Not much of an AL player, but this was an odd move given how massive and free-to-play friendly the game is. My only assumption is that when Phase 2 arrives, the way to get it will be the same way, but when you do purchase any slot increase, it would be instantly given to the account you use?

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[PappiChulo69]

Rip new players that r f2p

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[TurnBackTime]

bring back old prices for slots with plats and crate tokens

[Solorog]

@devs
Guys that way you make all tokens useless to grind same as vardan vendor which been useless since day one

Why shall anyone collect tokens from any map or daily? Or even run any old map?
And all new players/ seasonal must be plat users to expand his inventory or stash?

Congrats you just shrink your players base from infinite to 10k plate users player (10k players is very optimistic count)

[Young2747]

Lets see the cost.
Maximum inventory aps- 175,000,000
Maximum craft inventory- 175,000,000
Maximum furnish - 1-2m due to house event.
Maximum auction slots - 440,000,000
Maximum house slots - 35m due to event.
Maximum stash slots - 525,000,000

So, is it really reasonable for 600 aps to cost 1.3bil gold. Is it really reasonable in order to max your slots you need 1.3bil gold?

U do the cost for yourself. not the whole . minus always a good pass .

[Young2747]

Lets see the cost.
Maximum inventory aps- 175,000,000
Maximum craft inventory- 175,000,000
Maximum furnish - 1-2m due to house event.
Maximum auction slots - 440,000,000
Maximum house slots - 35m due to event.
Maximum stash slots - 525,000,000

So, is it really reasonable for 600 aps to cost 1.3bil gold. Is it really reasonable in order to max your slots you need 1.3bil gold?

you go market. back . go again. does not add. you add neigbour . still .
another one is if u get the stash . u get again? no. dont do for your excellence . do for benefit

[Young2747]

Why yall hating on encryptions ? They removed every vendor tokens which could let you get free inventory , stash , character slots ..... do you understand what that means ? You CANNOT buy any of those without spending Platinum now . If you are fine with it for something which has been in decade in the game which was the reasons why this game had so much love and care and new players emerging cheers for you . But that means a full on messed up situation .

I dont want Encryptions who control . make your own thinking. he confessed his parents not of his chosen but disgrace. i dont think one love something for more. seriously following his chat you all.

[Encryptions]

you go market. back . go again. does not add. you add neigbour . still .
another one is if u get the stash . u get again? no. dont do for your excellence . do for benefitIm confused on what you are saying.

[Péter Ferenczi]

Crypto is right guys and Sts. What is this update lmao? I saw many wrong decision from you Sts but this one is beat all up. What was the point whit this update honestly? To the new players and the hardcore runners leave your game? Why don't you just shut your servers down if you not want this game anymore? Starters,mid gamers,hc runners gonna feel this the most and im saying like an end gamer and worried too. Idk what are you guys really want but this is not the best path we take. And also im a red egg holder too yes and? Who want to buy it when no one want to play this ptw game anymore? Hm?

[gunstick]

Crypto is right guys and Sts. What is this update lmao? I saw many wrong decision from you Sts but this one is beat all up. What was the point whit this update honestly? To the new players and the hardcore runners leave your game? Why don't you just shut your servers down if you not want this game anymore? Starters,mid gamers,hc runners gonna feel this the most and im saying like an end gamer and worried too. Idk what are you guys really want but this is not the best path we take. And also im a red egg holder too yes and? Who want to buy it when no one want to play this ptw game anymore? Hm?Better wait for phase 2... This update (slots removed from the vendor) is not permanent.

Sts said they have something in mind regarding this, so let's wait before jumping on any conclusion.

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[Péter Ferenczi]

I just not see why they have to make rush decision and why not tell us if they have something in mind. The players probably not start to throw the rocks for them or getting worried if they know whats going on and what the devs want.