Feedback: Arcane Blood Star Weapons

[capeo]

There are 14 pages complaining about all the blood gear and then more on the other.blood feed bak threads. Hopefully they get the hint by now. Would be nice to hear if they are looking into changes or we are stuck with these things.

[Cinco]

There are 14 pages complaining about all the blood gear and then more on the other.blood feed bak threads. Hopefully they get the hint by now. Would be nice to hear if they are looking into changes or we are stuck with these things.

You might be stuck with the huge buff we made to these weapons ;-)


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[My life is sad]

You might be stuck with the huge buff we made to these weapons ;-)


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Even after the huge buff is still better to use kraken over this


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[Cinco]

Even after the huge buff is still better to use kraken over this


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I disagree - and I am pretty sure I know why you're saying what you're saying. But to be sure, send me your IGN so I can review your full gear setup. Thanks!

[My life is sad]

I disagree - and I am pretty sure I know why you're saying what you're saying. But to be sure, send me your IGN so I can review your full gear setup. Thanks!

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[dmqp]

Even after the huge buff is still better to use kraken over this


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Kraken proc has greater damage, but is dealing it x2 per second (8s x 2 is 16x damage dealt from proc)
Blood proc has lower damage, but is dealing it x3 i think per second (10s x 3 is 30x damage dealt from proc)
In short blood proc is stronger :-)

Send me private message with gear you use. Even tho i am warrior user, i can tell Blood Chain has better proc than Kraken Blade. Based on your traders market history I think you are rogue? Chakram have same proc, can use same sets and same awaken, so i might be able to help.

[capeo]

I agree when I actually hit something with the weapons it does damage. I just don't hit many things with it. Also full blood with bio amulet doesn't out perform sb, blood and blood chain. That doesn't mean I want sb nerfed. 35% nature damage, with the buffs from blood accessories and bio amulet with curse wood nature jewels just doesn't do as much damage. At least when I actually proc on something. Pvp and pve.

Again, I go entire tdm matches with out the weapon proc even once. In maps when I try to level the chain I can't hit anything. I need the amulet to proc with sb shield then I can hit stuff. It's not 100% miss. I'm not saying it never hits anything. It does on occasion proc and normal attacks do on occasion land. It's just not reliable.

[dmqp]

35% nature damage, with the buffs from blood accessories and bio amulet with curse wood nature jewels just doesn't do as much damage. At least when I actually proc on something. Pvp and pve.


I would edit description of proc... The 35% part is nothing to work with nature gems. You deal 100% dmg to enemy, while this 35% nature dmg part will work against enemies with nature resist to kill them quicker.

[Cinco]

I agree when I actually hit something with the weapons it does damage. I just don't hit many things with it. At least when I actually proc on something. Pvp and pve.

The team is actively looking at issues with the chain sword targeting. Potential issues are not just the chain sword, but the chain sword - given how it plays - makes the player / position / targeting issues more noticeable. I hope to have an update on this in the coming days.


Also full blood with bio amulet doesn't out perform sb, blood and blood chain. That doesn't mean I want sb nerfed. 35% nature damage, with the buffs from blood accessories and bio amulet with curse wood nature jewels just doesn't do as much damage.

By 'full blood' you mean 6/6 (or are you at 3/3 with overlap from Bio pieces)?

Also, do you have full Bio 5/5?


Thanks for the feedback!

[capeo]

I have 6 of 6 blood and blood chain, usually paired with bio amulet. Bio amulet has curse wood nature gems. Sometimes sb amulet.

My best set is 3/6 sb. Belt amulet and ring
3/6 blood armor helm and arti
Immo bracelet.
Blood chain

This is the standard for most of us. It out performs the first set (full blood) by a wide margin.

I also have full bio, all cursewood nature gems
Blood armor and helm
Blood Chain
This isn't great in hedo

I actually like full bio
Blood armor and helm
Sb hammer far better
This is part of my hedo damage set still

I would be happy to go over awakes and jewels a little more privately. Since, you know, I pvp

Erm, once again please don't nerf sb hammer or sb set.

Thank you for looking into the targeting issues. Knowing you guys are looking into it means a lot. That annoys me more then the blood set and weapon performance. I don't care that the set and chain don't out perform what I have. I do get frustrated missing everything in the map.

[Americanarmy]

Normal attack
- Would you please add something to normal hits of blood weaponry, something useful (5% armor reduce on hit perhaps)? Playing Hedourah it does not matter if i do normal hits or not, DOT does everything same fast regardless of spamming auto-attack.

Dot and Nature damage
- after testing 3x blood (belt/ring/bracelet) vs 3x sb (belt/ring/bracelet) i am not sure nature damage part of dot is working
- having different color of elemental dmg numbers would help a lot with testing.

Targeting
- if it targets and proc 3x minions it should do the same with bosses. In cursed woods with 3x enemy blood chain targets and proc 2 bosses at best, usually 1. Would you please make it proc all 3 the same way it procs minions? Or increase range of proc if the size of boss is the issue. I would like to stop using kraken blade.

Ty

I agree elemental dmg should have diffrent color numbers


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[Americanarmy]

I have 6 of 6 blood and blood chain, usually paired with bio amulet. Bio amulet has curse wood nature gems. Sometimes sb amulet.

My best set is 3/6 sb. Belt amulet and ring
3/6 blood armor helm and arti
Immo bracelet.
Blood chain

This is the standard for most of us. It out performs the first set (full blood) by a wide margin.

I also have full bio, all cursewood nature gems
Blood armor and helm
Blood Chain
This isn't great in hedo

I actually like full bio
Blood armor and helm
Sb hammer far better
This is part of my hedo damage set still

I would be happy to go over awakes and jewels a little more privately. Since, you know, I pvp

Erm, once again please don't nerf sb hammer or sb set.

Thank you for looking into the targeting issues. Knowing you guys are looking into it means a lot. That annoys me more then the blood set and weapon performance. I don't care that the set and chain don't out perform what I have. I do get frustrated missing everything in the map.

Your supposed to use cosmic set in hedo nature dosent do anything to it but if it does whats even the point of having diffrent elements if there all working the same on every mob element type regarless of diffrence


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[yomamma]

Your supposed to use cosmic set in hedo nature dosent do anything to it but if it does whats even the point of having diffrent elements if there all working the same on every mob element type regarless of diffrence


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All sets do the same damage, the difference is in the resistance type. I can solo ebp hedo with bio set just like I did with cosmic set. It’s the resistance that changes.

Back to blood chain, so it’s not smart to ascend this weapon yet?


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[capeo]

I am working on leveling it and know a lot of others are also. When it lands it's a good boss weapon. Damage is high if you use arti to clear mobs. It looks like they are addressing the missing issue. Only reason not to ascend it is if you want to sell it.

[recilencia123]

Did you even test it? Kraken is way better and it’s only 10M gold [emoji23]


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maybe if u craft to ascendant O.O


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[Tekila]

Hi
The expérience is boring since it looks like kraken, it does the same as kraken but in worse.
This suggestion is only for SB hammer i dont really Care about gun and bow you may do the same adjustment .
So the new proc could be this.
"Charging your normal attack for 3s gives your a 30% crit damage, 300% Damage and 30%haste for 5 sec.
Charging normal attack for 4s empoweres it and procs the cosmic bomb.
Cosmic bomb: you weapon is empowered by cosmic power, releasing that power creates a powerfull explosion on impact that deals heavy damages and debuf the target. After a first strike you can charge a second cosmic bomb without canalising your energy 4s (so you just have to charge attack again)
Cosmic residu: target hit by cosmic bomb get affected by cosmic résidu that burn their soul doing burn damages on time"

You can just use reuse the wep charge vfx and make a blast of the same BFX on the target hit by the proc

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[Americanarmy]

Hi
The expérience is boring since it looks like kraken, it does the same as kraken but in worse.
This suggestion is only for SB hammer i dont really Care about gun and bow you may do the same adjustment .
So the new proc could be this.
"Charging your normal attack for 3s gives your a 30% crit damage, 300% Damage and 30%haste for 5 sec.
Charging normal attack for 4s empoweres it and procs the cosmic bomb.
Cosmic bomb: you weapon is empowered by cosmic power, releasing that power creates a powerfull explosion on impact that deals heavy damages and debuf the target. After a first strike you can charge a second cosmic bomb without canalising your energy 4s (so you just have to charge attack again)
Cosmic residu: target hit by cosmic bomb get affected by cosmic résidu that burn their soul doing burn damages on time"

You can just use reuse the wep charge vfx and make a blast of the same BFX on the target hit by the proc

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I like or eeffect smilae to flame staff or dmg overtime that increases in dmg every sec


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[Fropi]

Idk about that

[Lirkz]

The craftable version of blood weps doesn't show up in crafting station. Is it bugged or intended?

[My life is sad]

The craftable version of blood weps doesn't show up in crafting station. Is it bugged or intended?

If you have the weapon equipped it’s not going g to show, you have to use other weapon and it will appear


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[Voorge]

If you have the weapon equipped it’s not going g to show, you have to use other weapon and it will appear


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one way or another it doesn’t show up in craft

[capeo]

Do you have the recipe?

[Blackshadow]

I can not craft the weapon I have finished the quest and all materials it’s not showing up in the crafting station

[Ajuh]

hope we get weapons for cosmic set as well

[Wizzzaq]

Need more clarification on the 35% nature damage.
Is it 35% of total damage dealt is nature damage?
Is it only when you use the blood proc? (charged attack)

Please clarify. And update the preview post.

[Americanarmy]

Need more clarification on the 35% nature damage.
Is it 35% of total damage dealt is nature damage?
Is it only when you use the blood proc? (charged attack)

Please clarify. And update the preview post.

Me too i want to know


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[Wizzzaq]

Need more clarification on the 35% nature damage.
Is it 35% of total damage dealt is nature damage?
Is it only when you use the blood proc? (charged attack)

Please clarify. And update the preview post.

When I have blood star weapon equipped, I check my stats and it says 0% nature damage.
You guys said 35% of damage dealt is nature damage. Well, that's not the case.
Please, fix this problem.

[Americanarmy]

When I have blood star weapon equipped, I check my stats and it says 0% nature damage.
You guys said 35% of damage dealt is nature damage. Well, that's not the case.
Please, fix this problem.

YEA FIXZX NOW i got screen shots


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[Fkned]

I can not craft the weapon I have finished the quest and all materials it’s not showing up in the crafting station

Unequip and UNHEART the weapon. That should take care of it.

[Yuggernaut]

please buff 8/8 build, maybe buff medallion passive stats or belt or brace stats, please...

[dexxiedex]

While doing 3x mob runs in cursed elder woods, my blood chakram proc can't seem to hit all 3 bosses, even when they're almost on top of eachother. Is it normal for me to only be able to hit one with the proc?

[Cinco]

While doing 3x mob runs in cursed elder woods, my blood chakram proc can't seem to hit all 3 bosses, even when they're almost on top of eachother. Is it normal for me to only be able to hit one with the proc?

It is. The targeting mechanism for the Blood Star Chakram is 'single,' so - unless something goes astray - it's only ever going to apply damage, proc logic, etc. to one target. This will almost always be the first target you hit... which is almost always going to be the closest one - though we do have it set up so that boss monsters are the preferred targets if any are in range.

Are you seeing the Blood Star Chakram proc on multiple targets elsewhere?

[dexxiedex]

It is. The targeting mechanism for the Blood Star Chakram is 'single,' so - unless something goes astray - it's only ever going to apply damage, proc logic, etc. to one target. This will almost always be the first target you hit... which is almost always going to be the closest one - though we do have it set up so that boss monsters are the preferred targets if any are in range.

Are you seeing the Blood Star Chakram proc on multiple targets elsewhere?

Oh, pity. I was under the impression these first blood weapons could hit up to 3 targets with the proc since I remember seeing it in a gif posted by a dev in the thread... yeah I forgot which one, can't find it anymore. Perhaps I dreamt it. Thanks for the explanation! I did not see it proc on multiple targets anywhere after some testing to answer your question. A minor disappointment nonetheless :uncomfortableness:.

Also a bit of a shame that my kraken bow (+belt) proc seems to perform just as good if not better than my level 4 ascendant blood chakram proc in terms of damage output. I'm having a hard time understanding how (7/6sb proc, blood helm/armor/arti, immo proc).

[imfeared]

Oh, pity. I was under the impression these first blood weapons could hit up to 3 targets with the proc since I remember seeing it in a gif posted by a dev in the thread... yeah I forgot which one, can't find it anymore. Perhaps I dreamt it. Thanks for the explanation! A minor disappointment nonetheless :uncomfortableness:.

Also a bit of a shame that my kraken bow (+belt) proc seems to perform just as good if not better than my level 4 ascendant blood chakram proc in terms of damage output. I'm having a hard time understanding how (7/6sb proc, blood helm/armor/arti, immo proc).

The chain sword hits 3x target not the chakrams. This confused me as a rogue at 1st also because I was under the same impression all of the new blood star weapons procs hit 3x unfortunately this isn't the case.
Also I have a level 10blood chakram and the kraken bow+belt proc is still better. Chakram is purely used for dmg since it outperforms rusk bow. The chakram proc is really only better for teams doing the 1hp or 1 phase strat on hedo due to the longer proc duration. Level 10 chakram damage output is very op though.
Hope this helps

[|Ares|]

Will blood star daggers have an AoE like kraken claws and can we expect blood star bow to have kraken bow mechanic as well? That would potentially expand rogue's ability to clear maps and take up faster paced gameplay on endgame maps.

[SwiftAce]

Will blood star daggers have an AoE like kraken claws and can we expect blood star bow to have kraken bow mechanic as well? That would potentially expand rogue's ability to clear maps and take up faster paced gameplay on endgame maps.

This is actually a interesting concern. I put a post on suggestions as well related to this. It's going to either level the gap in mob clear compared to other classes or leave Rogue as the 2nd choice for any end game farming maps.

[Wiztheleafa]

Question. Does the Heavy Arcanite Stone stat stack on blood weapons? (It’s the +12 primary stat, +5 damage). It doesn’t say it doesn’t stack…. But it also doesn’t say it does?

[GajahDuduk]

Oh, pity. I was under the impression these first blood weapons could hit up to 3 targets with the proc since I remember seeing it in a gif posted by a dev in the thread... yeah I forgot which one, can't find it anymore. Perhaps I dreamt it. Thanks for the explanation! I did not see it proc on multiple targets anywhere after some testing to answer your question. A minor disappointment nonetheless :uncomfortableness:.

Also a bit of a shame that my kraken bow (+belt) proc seems to perform just as good if not better than my level 4 ascendant blood chakram proc in terms of damage output. I'm having a hard time understanding how (7/6sb proc, blood helm/armor/arti, immo proc).

Is this gif what u saw?
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Link: https://www.spacetimestudios.com/showthread.php?767745-Preview-Ursoth-s-Assault-Returns!-2025!

[dexxiedex]

@GajahDuduk Nope it was one a month or more ago in an elder woods map

[GajahDuduk]

Where is 15% coming from? I have hard time believing those are the numbers from daggers or any other weapon that relied on 0.3s tick rate.

If you're comparing bow, sword or gun pre and post nerf I'll believe that, but what hapoened to daggwrs and other aoe weaponry? (They are doing 3x less ticks , isn't that 3x less cumulative damage if everything else about the formula is the same?)

I'm glad you're finally being open with what happened but it doesn't change the fact this is not the way to go about introducing new gear. We are at a point where everyone is getting comfortable with farming end game content - our dmg is good and what we are waiting for is new difficulty or new maps. Making us suddenly do much less damage and have to buy new gear just to be doing same if not worse than before is definitely not fun times.

I got scammed few weeks ago - I lost almost 1b in gold farming gear and guess what? Now I have to spend 1b to buy it back just so I can be at the same spot I was before - do you draw any reference between this and what just happened to all of our weapons?

*It's a true story btw, if you don't believe me search your support messages and you'll find mine

Someone in the forum said debuffing gear is criminal. I agree about that. Its like robbing someone effort and investment (gold, plat, time) to get that gears. I hope STS stops this practice in the future and finds another solution.

Especially with the new system they introduced, ascended, which makes blood weapon bounded.
Im going to ascend my blood chak, if in the future they debuff blood weapon I should leave this game.

[Americanarmy]

Does 1,000 nature dmg do the same dmg that 1,000 cosmic dmg do on hedo or is it nerfed due to elemental diffrence


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[Wizzzaq]

Does 1,000 nature dmg do the same dmg that 1,000 cosmic dmg do on hedo or is it nerfed due to elemental diffrence


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Nobody knows for sure.
STS has been really vague with the elemental items.
No information about the damage, what element is good for what type of enemies or maps.
They like to say that people need an elemental set but with no explanation.

[Americanarmy]

Nobody knows for sure.
STS has been really vague with the elemental items.
No information about the damage, what element is good for what type of enemies or maps.
They like to say that people need an elemental set but with no explanation.

Because nature dmg does alot of dmg on hedo or its just wep stats? Idk tbh full blood does more dmg then full sb and mixed blood/sb


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[|Ares|]

Because nature dmg does alot of dmg on hedo or its just wep stats? Idk tbh full blood does more dmg then full sb and mixed blood/sb


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8/8 blood set is absolutely useless lol

[Sofie]

8/8 blood set is absolutely useless lolReally?
@Cinco Can you explain about the blood set? I was in doubt about buying Full set 8/8 but I'm seeing a lot of negative feedback about the set...

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[capeo]

You do a lot of damage with full blood set on that first proc. After it's bad. I don't see a purpose for all of the pieces but I'm sure other people will find some way to make them useful. Over all I would say it's underwhelming. They need to make all the procs work on damage also. How is a kill streak helping you in hedo or any boss portal. Elemental damage that comes with the full set is basically negligible in all formats. All those +% elemental damage is useless. I'm not going to test it with say 21 elemental jewels but maybe someone else will.

[Americanarmy]

You do a lot of damage with full blood set on that first proc. After it's bad. I don't see a purpose for all of the pieces but I'm sure other people will find some way to make them useful. Over all I would say it's underwhelming. They need to make all the procs work on damage also. How is a kill streak helping you in hedo or any boss portal. Elemental damage that comes with the full set is basically negligible in all formats. All those +% elemental damage is useless. I'm not going to test it with say 21 elemental jewels but maybe someone else will.

8/8 blood op on rogue with cosmic buff easily solos ebp hedo but not 1hp hedo


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[dxysz]

a good friend told me that pre-ascended and ascended blood weaponry with higher elemental damage conversion for the latter, along fully socketed cursewood nature jewels on the 5/5 set makes literally 0% difference through multiple testing. anyone care to confirm? :/

[dexxiedex]

Dear devs,

Me and many others are very curious about the next blood weapons two months after the release of the first set. Is there any indication as to when we can expect the next batch of Blood Star weapons? We're waiting in anticipation! :)

Dex

[HonestAbe]

What’s the best gems for blood orb? 3 Shadow gems or 3 enchanted eyes? I don’t wanna spend millions on the wrong one. What’s gems makes the Blood Orb the most powerful?

[HonestAbe]

Also do enchanted eyes stack? The description does not state it.

[Yptmx]

when will the next set of blood weps come out