PL End Game problems

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03-14-2013, 01:38 PM
Zeus

He did say they will attempt to address these issues when they get time for it. That's the silver lining, I guess.
03-14-2013, 01:41 PM
octavos

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Originally Posted by Apollo

He did say they will attempt to address these issues when they get time for it. That's the silver lining, I guess.

The belief is in the actions...Seeing is believing...once again thz for the post Apollo.
03-14-2013, 01:48 PM
Deathofan

Post deleted... Just want to ask, where does our money invested go? Does it go to AL? Im pretty sure lots of people still buy just for the hopes to make this game better, but clearly it doesn't.
03-14-2013, 03:16 PM
Yich

And like a thief in the night, the devs have come and taken all the bad posts away with them back to STS HQ.
03-14-2013, 03:52 PM
XghostzX

Well said, Parth. We've hit up the issue in the PvP section too - it's both PvP and PvE that is getting bad.

I like the way the approach is being taken. With enough player feedback (quality feedback, of course) perhaps we can convince the devs.

I'm not ready to give up on my old, favorite game :)
03-14-2013, 04:21 PM
CrimsonTider

So tempted, but will refrain.
03-14-2013, 04:27 PM
fourleaf

Is the game really bad?
03-14-2013, 04:31 PM
CrimsonTider

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Originally Posted by fourleaf

Is the game really bad?

No. The game is lacking. A lot.
03-14-2013, 05:17 PM
XghostzX

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Originally Posted by CrimsonTider

So tempted, but will refrain.

Crim, everyone loves to hear what you have to say ._. Spit it out, my friend.
03-14-2013, 05:35 PM
CrimsonTider

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Originally Posted by XghostzX

Crim, everyone loves to hear what you have to say ._. Spit it out, my friend.

I would be insta-banned if I expressed my disappointment in a game I almost personally financed. Live and learn.
03-14-2013, 05:49 PM
Zeus

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Originally Posted by CrimsonTider

I would be insta-banned if I expressed my disappointment in a game I almost personally financed. Live and learn.

Doubt you would for one thing, bro. You're one of the most respected and valued members on forums. I personally think if you were gone, you'd be missed more than anybody else here, including me.
03-14-2013, 05:54 PM
FluffNStuff

They already fixed the end game balance problem by using bonus damage in AL. What more do you want ;)
03-14-2013, 05:56 PM
billybob1

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Originally Posted by Apollo

Doubt you would for one thing, bro. You're one of the most respected and valued members on forums. I personally think if you were gone, you'd be missed more than anybody else here, including me.

prolly not
03-14-2013, 08:50 PM
XghostzX

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonTider

I would be insta-banned if I expressed my disappointment in a game I almost personally financed. Live and learn.

Trust me, Crim. Without a doubt in my top 3 most respected forumers. But I'll take you word :D
03-14-2013, 09:54 PM
Multibird

God help us, sts start caring for us :D
03-14-2013, 09:57 PM
Yich

Quote:

Originally Posted by XghostzX

Trust me, Crim. Without a doubt in my top 3 most respected forumers. But I'll take you word :D

Do I make top 1000?
03-15-2013, 12:22 AM
Piosidon

Now I'm not really eager to level my 66 anymore :/
03-15-2013, 06:35 AM
dudetus

Quote:

Originally Posted by XghostzX

Trust me, Crim. Without a doubt in my top 3 most respected forumers. But I'll take you word :D

Ik u love me the most.
03-15-2013, 07:35 AM
Seminole

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Originally Posted by Apollo

Greetings SpaceTime Studios Developers,

This is a plea from your loyal customers at end game: Player vs. Player is getting out of hand. The high dodge/high damage combination of the new sets is causing luck to become the prevalent factor in determining matches.

The Main Problems with Pocket Legends Player vs. Player:

• Damage coefficient is nearing the range of a birds health and has already surpassed the standard pure intelligence mage’s health points.

• Armor has not gone up in the same ratio as damage. This means that damage is slowly increasing over armor.

This cap is a big indication of that. In earlier caps, the armor to damage ratio was pretty even and debuffs would take care of the excess damage. This is non-existent this cap, thus leading to many lucky one hit kills.

• Debuffs cannot debuff. Why? The high dodge factor. If a debuff does happen to land, it often determines the fate of the match, as the debuff is rather large and the damage is already way out of proportion. This calls for insane 1-2 hit kills.

• Dodge is becoming too prevalent of a factor towards determining matches. As a general rule in MMOs, the luck based stats should not be the reason why a person wins or not.

Example: Take a look at my L35 bear Voodoovillain before the release of forgotten bows. It did not rely on the dodge skills, but instead relied on the debuffs of the copperhead set, skill debuffs, and iron blood. The logical skill build would be the reason of winning or losing, not something that was left up to sheer luck.

• Hit Percent debuffs are becoming too powerful. A bird’s blind shot can reduce a bear’s hit percent by 60+ and then the weapon of the bird (elite phoenix bow) also reduces hit occasionally. Hit percent for classes is not going up high enough in the same proportion to counteract dodge.

I believe there was a developer quote somewhere that higher hit percent counteracts dodge, even if dodge is in the 100s. I do not remember the ratio, but the current ratio is clearly not working.

My opinions on the solutions to this Critical Problem:

• Once again, the developers can do an game-wide nerf, rebalancing PvE and PvP to account for the increasing stats as they did during the L50 cap. This worked out rather well and stalled the problem until it became apparent again this cap.

• Certain skills should be set to land more often, thus decreasing the dodge factor.

• Greatly increasing the hit percent to break through the dodge factor. This one seems more manageable as it does not involve reworking the entire game.

• Decreasing L9 skills. Coupled with high armor and dodge, it makes matches way more luck based than they should be.

Pocket Legends is your founding game, the reason why Arcane Legends is able to be here today. Please, show your old players some love and show us that you still care about Pocket Legends as well as the other Legends titles.

I believe a developer mentioned that they have a staff of 30+. I remember when Pocket Legends first started out, they had a staff of 10 plus. Now, there are 4 legends titles, so can’t the staff be split evenly so all of the games can receive constant updates instead of 3 being ignored and one getting all the attention? I’m sure this would increase revenue as well since people would be satisfied in purchasing platinum in every game.

Sincerely,

Apollo

Nice post, please fix end-game pvp!
03-15-2013, 07:52 AM
XghostzX

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Originally Posted by dudetus

Ik u love me the most.

Meh :D
03-15-2013, 08:29 AM
CrimsonTider

Reserved.

(Ask and ye shall receive.)
03-15-2013, 08:54 AM
Yich

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonTider

Reserved.

(Ask and ye shall receive.)

The suspense is killing me...
03-15-2013, 08:55 AM
Caiahar

Blehhhhhhhhhhhh......no reply from dev on this thread or the other one just like this....
03-15-2013, 08:59 AM
XghostzX

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Originally Posted by Shadowstar

Blehhhhhhhhhhhh......no reply from dev on this thread or the other one just like this....

They see it, bro.
03-15-2013, 09:30 AM
Jig

I have hope that theyre making a suprise update if not i will be the most dissapointed player, and so will everyone else.. Do your job while we give you money make us happy not make us play a game that requires luck, i might aswell go to the pokies and gamble there.. You devs better suprise us or there are going to a be a dam lot of unhappy customers.
03-15-2013, 09:31 AM
dudetus

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Originally Posted by XghostzX

Meh :D

U bieberhaired wonderboy.

Always so funny.
03-15-2013, 04:56 PM
Walkhardd

Where's the tl;dr version?
03-15-2013, 10:04 PM
XghostzX

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudetus

U bieberhaired wonderboy.

Always so funny.

"When I wake up in the mornings I'll go to take a poopoo." - Dudetus.
03-15-2013, 11:26 PM
Jcyee

Well I just did some CTF for the first time in a LONG time with an angel set against other 76 players with crafted BSM sets. I have to say I did a lot better than I thought... mostly because of dodge...
03-16-2013, 05:40 AM
dudetus

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Originally Posted by Walkhardd

Where's the tl;dr version?

Dodgenubs, too high damage, low armor omg pls listen to us sts fix.

My own version. Apollo made it sound more smart tho.
03-16-2013, 10:03 AM
Oskitopee

Here's what i think will happen:
They will fix the PvP balance issue WHEN NEW CAP COMES OUT so that there's just one mega-update. What i see wrong with this is that nobody will play 76 pvp anymore when there's new cap! Either of two things will happen:
1.) get new cap and no balance for 76, but hope that the new cap is balanced
2.) Get a balance, but wait a long time for new cap since PL doesn't get new content very often.
03-16-2013, 04:30 PM
XghostzX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oskitopee

Here's what i think will happen:
They will fix the PvP balance issue WHEN NEW CAP COMES OUT so that there's just one mega-update. What i see wrong with this is that nobody will play 76 pvp anymore when there's new cap! Either of two things will happen:
1.) get new cap and no balance for 76, but hope that the new cap is balanced
2.) Get a balance, but wait a long time for new cap since PL doesn't get new content very often.

We hoped for this in the last cap. Careful what you say, because this is out rumors are easily spread. :)
03-16-2013, 05:24 PM
dudetus

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Originally Posted by XghostzX

"When I wake up in the mornings I'll go to take a poopoo." - Dudetus.

Poo is always funny :).

Regards, atm pooing while clubbin.
03-16-2013, 06:07 PM
Suentous PO

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudetus

Poo is always funny :).

You will find your infant a constant source of humor.

Dear god.... The son of Dudetus! O.o

Edit-remembered this thread has a real purpose, and here I go just trying to have fun. I just proved Crim and Apollo correct. Ima "hop off".
03-16-2013, 08:57 PM
Zeus

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrimsonTider

Reserved.

(Ask and ye shall receive.)

This post is the only reason why I'm constantly checking this thread. :o
03-16-2013, 08:58 PM
Zeus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suentous PO

You will find your infant a constant source of humor.

Dear god.... The son of Dudetus! O.o

Edit-remembered this thread has a real purpose, and here I go just trying to have fun. I just proved Crim and Apollo correct. Ima "hop off".

From his party life, I'm sure he already has a bunch of sons that are trolling their mommies. I bet the mommies regret their days of partying... ;)
03-16-2013, 09:14 PM
CrimsonTider

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Originally Posted by Apollo

This post is the only reason why I'm constantly checking this thread. :o

It is almost ready. March Madness has consumed my time today. :)
03-16-2013, 09:27 PM
FluffNStuff

Would this help:
http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...nting-Vanities
03-16-2013, 10:25 PM
Schnitzel

Off topic: Uh..whats endgame?
Just wondering..
03-16-2013, 10:57 PM
Zeus

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruizhe

Off topic: Uh..whats endgame?
Just wondering..

L75-76, or in other words, the latest cap.

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