I think it is too much work to unlock expansion tiers

So we need 300 tokens, requirements to just open the new stuff like dailies and community goals then on top of all that ranks .....this is just too much for the casual player who has a job and a social life please look into this at least remove the proofs and badges and just go by rank as we already need hundreds of tokens to buy anything worth buying but to open the next set of floors after this one will take 600 coins that's 600 runs of gy or like 350 runs of maus just to go to another floor ....it's grown boring and tedious to me please do something

I'm sitting at a whopping 1500 points, along with my stockpile of 20 coins so far in this expansion. I am a casual player and do not wish to spend all of my free time, which is maybe ~30 mins a day, running a map that lets me get to another map after everything is worthless. Kudos to the extreme gamers who have already "completed" the expansion, but that might be .2% of the community.

I dont think this is the best way to go about an expansion, especially being a game for mobile devices, but hey - you live and learn. Hopefully the team will receive the feedback they are getting with an open mind, and tweak it for the future.

The 5,000 purchasable points for 100 tokens at lightbearer rank was a good way to help casual players out without totally undermining hardcore player work, but now it requires elite lightbearer rank so its meh.

same i hate this expansion, literally we need a daily for 1,000 rank points. And more dailies for more coins. All I want is the mythic bow but idek if its worth all this grinding.

Also I'm not asking for StS to be "giving us tiers" or whatever. It should just be easier bc imo all this grinding is wack a f.

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The 5,000 purchasable points for 100 tokens at lightbearer rank was a good way to help casual players out without totally undermining hardcore player work, but now it requires elite lightbearer rank so its meh.

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From what I've heard, isnt it only stashable? Not tradeable?

Yea I agree. Im sitting just under 50k points and pretty much done for now. Imo this became very tedious very quickly with little to no reward without acquiring thousands of tokens which really cant be used for the new mythics until the next stage anyways.. The occasional pink drops and slim chance at symia isnt enough to keep my spark lit. I also think that having identical maps regardless of the alternating hallways and paths doesn't help much either. Visually it just feels like im playing the same map over and ovEr and over, be it graveyard or mauseleum the scerenry has gotten old.

I actually like this expansion, no hate. Ok except those darn curse mages.

Oh and....MY FINGERS!!!! THE PAIN, THE PAIN!

STS, I blame you for cripple-itus on my fingers. I can't even pick my nose without poking my eye out nowadays!

There is nothing wrong with taking your time through this expansion. Sometimes in our current world of immediate gratification, we forget that there can be value in long term goals. This expansion is designed to be a marathon and not a sprint, and while we totally don't expect to please everyone we do feel it works best for the game.

Feedback is always welcome, as this content was actually created in response to overwhelming feedback saying that things are too easy to unlock and that they are bored with the expansion within a week. It's a little give and take, and by no means do we expect to hit the nail on the head when we try new ideas. There are certainly adjustments we will make moving into future expansions that we have learned from this one.

Thank you all for all the wonderful feedback no lets hope we'll get some action from da devs.

Those token kits r to fast track alts not the casual players as they r non tradable. I have received many complaints from various players on how tedious n boring this expansion is.

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There is nothing wrong with taking your time through this expansion. Sometimes in our current world of immediate gratification, we forget that there can be value in long term goals. This expansion is designed to be a marathon and not a sprint, and while we totally don't expect to please everyone we do feel it works best for the game.

Feedback is always welcome, as this content was actually created in response to overwhelming feedback saying that things are too easy to unlock and that they are bored with the expansion within a week. It's a little give and take, and by no means do we expect to hit the nail on the head when we try new ideas. There are certainly adjustments we will make moving into future expansions that we have learned from this one.

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Sporadic mini events related to expansion where we can accumulate additional points/tokens and have the ability to spend such on shiny shiny (ankhs, vanities, pets etc..). That would make an expansion like this 10/10.

The key is to run with the community goal, rather than racing to elite lightbearer.

Support Shared Pet Stable Please!

Mini events for more points sounds great. Esoecially since the winter event is right around the corner, no ones gonna be playing twilight for all of december.

Idk i quess we dont need more expansions. What does worth to lvl up even to lvl 100? .. i guess cool events would be much better and just bring more items and vanitys. This Long boring Rank system we all hate it. There is no one wwho like it am pretty sure. Those 5k points were cool when we could buy them at lightbearer rankm its changed now to elite one cus some selfish guys who have elite lightbearer already. There is a much better players than them. It dosnt mean they are better if they had more time this month to hit elite... there is thousands other players. Not even 700 ppl hit lightbearer rank yet

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There is nothing wrong with taking your time through this expansion. Sometimes in our current world of immediate gratification, we forget that there can be value in long term goals. This expansion is designed to be a marathon and not a sprint, and while we totally don't expect to please everyone we do feel it works best for the game.

Feedback is always welcome, as this content was actually created in response to overwhelming feedback saying that things are too easy to unlock and that they are bored with the expansion within a week. It's a little give and take, and by no means do we expect to hit the nail on the head when we try new ideas. There are certainly adjustments we will make moving into future expansions that we have learned from this one.

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This statement could not be more true and this expansion shows that feedback is taken into consideration. I still think the way things were laid out is a great idea, but the numbers were out of reach.

Before any of you pass judgement on the devs make sure you go back and read all the comments of those who complained, capped in 6-8 hours, constantly ask for a quest line from other titles (starlegends, etc, etc), or rush to finish an event/ quest and start making "I'm bored threads".

Mobile games are meant to be pickup and play games, but on the other hand the comments and complaints have attempted to push this into a full out Diablo/ wow/ etc experience. If you're going to chastise the devs, do the same to your fellow players.

I'll keep saying it until it gets through, be careful what you wish for.

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Can they pull from JRPG MMOs next and introduce advanced classes?

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There is nothing wrong with taking your time through this expansion. Sometimes in our current world of immediate gratification, we forget that there can be value in long term goals. This expansion is designed to be a marathon and not a sprint, and while we totally don't expect to please everyone we do feel it works best for the game.

Feedback is always welcome, as this content was actually created in response to overwhelming feedback saying that things are too easy to unlock and that they are bored with the expansion within a week. It's a little give and take, and by no means do we expect to hit the nail on the head when we try new ideas. There are certainly adjustments we will make moving into future expansions that we have learned from this one.

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Long term goals and 300+ runs just to get to the third floor of a map are two different things especially for those of us that have a life and can't be on all day long .this expansion replaced mine slavery with graveyard slavery and it's just too much you're telling me I have to do thousands of runs just to unlock the last part of the expansion then on top of those thousands of runs I have to do a few thousand more to get my mythic weapon and upgrade it then do a few more thousand runs to get any gear actually worth something from token vendor and upgrade that....your view of "long term goals" is ridiculous asf ....this is just too much work for a pickup and play and still have a social life.

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Long term goals and 300+ runs just to get to the third floor of a map are two different things especially for those of us that have a life and can't be on all day long .this expansion replaced mine slavery with graveyard slavery and it's just too much you're telling me I have to do thousands of runs just to unlock the last part of the expansion then on top of those thousands of runs I have to do a few thousand more to get my mythic weapon and upgrade it then do a few more thousand runs to get any gear actually worth something from token vendor and upgrade that....your view of "long term goals" is ridiculous asf ....this is just too much work for a pickup and play and still have a social life.

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It takes approximately 2000 graveyard runs to achieve the elite lightbearer rank. Which is why I believe a double points week would help those casual players (such as you and me) who have school/work life taking up their time.

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It takes approximately 2000 graveyard runs to achieve the elite lightbearer rank. Which is why I believe a double points week would help those casual players (such as you and me) who have school/work life taking up their time.

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Yeah the on top of that we need a few thousand for all the proofs and badges then weapons it's just ridiculous

I don't mind the grind but at least graveyard mobs should be at least a little easier to kill cause getting one shot over and over it's the worst humiliation that a player can suffer. i dont mind the samage output of bosses but mobs should be a little easier keep in mind to every class is a rogue.

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I hope that pic clarifies what I think about this expansion. I am always telling its no fun running same map over and over and over again.

I play around 1 hr every day since expansion, and I am at 28k points with only 80 token after purchasing access and badges.
I am getting bored and reluctant to play new maps repeatedly.
This is not a good feeling and I believe lots of players have same experience as I do.

1 graveyard run gives you approximate 60+ rank points and takes like 3 minutes or less. Even if you only have 1 hour time on a daily basis to play (approximately 1200 rank points/per hour) you should already be close to lightbearer rank. All this complaining about how 'hard' is to rank up is just you wanting to make things easy for yourself. Wanting things handed to you easier, wanting to put less effort. I know tons of people that have a busy life and are still close to ligthbearer rank. But seriously if you only have 1 hour on a regular basis to play AL.. My friend you should just quit instead of spending your time whining about how you want things handed to you so easily. For once it's needed for the entire community to put a little effort into running maps repeatedly to unlock new maps and this I find a great idea. There is no 2x rank points or 2x token event needed at all. Tokens event will just crash the token bought items prices. Want to unlock new floors? Well put effort into unlocking them. If you're not willing why even care about it? Don't go complain about it simply becaus you don't feel like putting effort into it. And as I said if you have 1 hour or less on a daily basis to play AL I'd suggest you to go find another game.

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I don't mind the grind but at least graveyard mobs should be at least a little easier to kill cause getting one shot over and over it's the worst humiliation that a player can suffer. i dont mind the samage output of bosses but mobs should be a little easier keep in mind to every class is a rogue.

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The difficulty is fairly easy it's just the endless grinding I'm sick of I only have about an hour a day to play now and I can't even get to higher maps because I still need 150 tokens for honor badge and 150 for proof of disciple so IDK if I'll get to the rest of mausoleum before I just give up out of sheer frustration.

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1 graveyard run gives you approximate 60+ rank points and takes like 3 minutes or less. Even if you only have 1 hour time on a daily basis to play (approximately 1200 rank points/per hour) you should already be close to lightbearer rank. All this complaining about how 'hard' is to rank up is just you wanting to make things easy for yourself. Wanting things handed to you easier, wanting to put less effort. I know tons of people that have a busy life and are still close to ligthbearer rank. But seriously if you only have 1 hour on a regular basis to play AL.. My friend you should just quit instead of spending your time whining about how you want things handed to you so easily. For once it's needed for the entire community to put a little effort into running maps repeatedly to unlock new maps and this I find a great idea. There is no 2x rank points or 2x token event needed at all. Tokens event will just crash the token bought items prices. Want to unlock new floors? Well put effort into unlocking them. If you're not willing why even care about it? Don't go complain about it simply becaus you don't feel like putting effort into it. And as I said if you have 1 hour or less on a daily basis to play AL I'd suggest you to go find another game.

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Maybe you can't read ? This has nothing to do with ranks but that I need to do more runs than is possible for me to get into the next part of the expansion and the one after it isn't a goal to get all those tokens to unlock two more floors just to farm even more tokens for my weapon
Please read the post with a bit of comprehension before you come here acting as if I want something handed to me and try to be less rude next time some of us have a life and can't get light bearer in two days like you did.

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Maybe you can't read ? This has nothing to do with ranks but that I need to do more runs than is possible for me to get into the next part of the expansion and the one after it isn't a goal to get all those tokens to unlock two more floors just to farm even more tokens for my weapon
Please read the post with a bit of comprehension before you come here acting as if I want something handed to me and try to be less rude next time some of us have a life and can't get light bearer in two days like you did.

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Maybe you should learn to read what others said on your thread as well. There is mentioned that it's super hard to rank up. You want more tokens instead of rank points its rather simple then. Either buy coffins or kill a few mobs in gy and run straight to boss. It's not even that the imbalanced weapons aren't trade able. Don't feel like grinding for tokens or don't have the time for it then just buy with gold. Don't ask for things to be handed to you easy. It's a game. Want that weapon bought with tokens? Go earn them. Work for them. No matter how slowly it is. If you trully want to achieve something you work your butt off to get it.

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Maybe you should learn to read what others said on your thread as well. There is mentioned that it's super hard to rank up. You want more tokens instead of rank points its rather simple then. Either buy coffins or kill a few mobs in gy and run straight to boss. It's not even that the imbalanced weapons aren't trade able. Don't feel like grinding for tokens or don't have the time for it then just buy with gold. Don't ask for things to be handed to you easy. It's a game. Want that weapon bought with tokens? Go earn them. Work for them. No matter how slowly it is. If you trully want to achieve something you work your butt off to get it.

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Again I have two jobs and a social life I play an hour a day and can't just waste my whole day in a game because I work my butt off in real life these goals are unreachable to us with little time to play....we don't all have all day to "work our butts off" in a vidya. It is going to take me until the middle of the next expansion to even be able to get to the last floor of maus at this rate not even mentioning trying to run for a weapon.
please keep your snide comments to yourself and think some people actually have lives and can't play all day like me

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Again I have two jobs and a social life I play an hour a day and can't just waste my whole day in a game because I work my butt off in real life these goals are unreachable to us with little time to play....we don't all have all day to "work our butts off" in a vidya. It is going to take me until the middle of the next expansion to even be able to get to the last floor of maus at this rate not even mentioning trying to run for a weapon.
please keep your snide comments to yourself and think some people actually have lives and can't play all day like me

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You claim to have such little time to play AL so I'll ask why play it even then? If you can't keep up then are you going to complain about? Look at the amount of time that you've spent complaining. Could've put that time to so much better use.

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You claim to have such little time to play AL so I'll ask why play it even then? If you can't keep up then are you going to complain about? Look at the amount of time that you've spent complaining. Could've put that time to so much better use.

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Until this expansion I kept up just fine....
It's literally just this expansion and the way they set it up...this is the first expansion like this and hopefully the last you need entirely too much for too little return. Just run the same map over and over until you get enough tokens to unlock another part...that's not fun at all and I simply don't have the time...and there's a lot more like me that have lives and are complaining that this expansion is just too much of a grind and we don't have the time for it...

yes it's hard and long time grind, but spent 1hr a day will be enough to reach elitebearer rank within less a month. you'll be ok, cos i just reach elitebearer today lol

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I play around 1 hr every day since expansion, and I am at 28k points with only 80 token after purchasing access and badges.
I am getting bored and reluctant to play new maps repeatedly.
This is not a good feeling and I believe lots of players have same experience as I do.

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Exactly I have maybe 5K more points than you but I still need 150 more tokens ...and I've grown bored of farming them and I don't really know if I'll continue this expansion or just wait for events/Antignome expansion because I've grown tired of the work have to put into this game just to be able to have another place to put more work in

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yes it's hard and long time grind, but spent 1hr a day will be enough to reach elitebearer rank within less a month. you'll be ok, cos i just reach elitebearer today lol

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It's been a month and a half at a hour a day and in barely at 32K points ....

Expansion dropped 10/6 /16
It's 11/28/16
This expansion is literally only for people with little to no life socially or workwise

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It's been a month and a half at a hour a day and in barely at 32K points ....

Expansion dropped 10/6 /16
It's 11/28/16
This expansion is literally only for people with little to no life socially or workwise

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my time for playing this game is less thn 1hr a day..so if u manage ur 1hr playtime correctly i bet u already hit there too..owh i do have life, job ,& have family with 2 kids so cheers and keep it up lol..

i ran for 2-3 weeks most days for 2hrs + (doing all the dailies in graveyard and Map 3-4) i am still stuck not even half to elite light bearer......

Buying more ankhs i normally do in elite maps ...

1. Challenging maps (yes) fun at times, boring most time with pugs
2. Repetitive (YES!)

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i ran for 2-3 weeks most days for 2hrs + (doing all the dailies in graveyard and Map 3-4) i am still stuck not even half to elite light bearer......

Buying more ankhs i normally do in elite maps ...

1. Challenging maps (yes) fun at times, boring most time with pugs
2. Repetitive (YES!)

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At least ur already in maus 3-4 I'm stuck in 1-2 and gy and it's now boring af

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Again I have two jobs and a social life I play an hour a day and can't just waste my whole day in a game because I work my butt off in real life these goals are unreachable to us with little time to play....we don't all have all day to "work our butts off" in a vidya. It is going to take me until the middle of the next expansion to even be able to get to the last floor of maus at this rate not even mentioning trying to run for a weapon.
please keep your snide comments to yourself and think some people actually have lives and can't play all day like me

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U dont have time to play? , then dont play,
People who been inside study or stuff like that cant play as well and they dont complain, stop trashing over this game and this new way, if u cant afford items, u will complain about how expensive are em?

Grow up! U have a social life? Great, we have too, and dont complain a game because cant follow it, u and most complain sound so childish!
Stop building a lazy comunity, stop asking for deal easier was to get everything

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You claim to have such little time to play AL so I'll ask why play it even then? If you can't keep up then are you going to complain about?

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Maybe you should learn to read what others said on your thread as well. There is mentioned that it's super hard to rank up. You want more tokens instead of rank points its rather simple then. Either buy coffins or kill a few mobs in gy and run straight to boss. It's not even that the imbalanced weapons aren't trade able. Don't feel like grinding for tokens or don't have the time for it then just buy with gold. Don't ask for things to be handed to you easy. It's a game. Want that weapon bought with tokens? Go earn them. Work for them. No matter how slowly it is. If you trully want to achieve something you work your butt off to get it.

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1 graveyard run gives you approximate 60+ rank points and takes like 3 minutes or less. Even if you only have 1 hour time on a daily basis to play (approximately 1200 rank points/per hour) you should already be close to lightbearer rank. All this complaining about how 'hard' is to rank up is just you wanting to make things easy for yourself. Wanting things handed to you easier, wanting to put less effort. I know tons of people that have a busy life and are still close to ligthbearer rank. But seriously if you only have 1 hour on a regular basis to play AL.. My friend you should just quit instead of spending your time whining about how you want things handed to you so easily. For once it's needed for the entire community to put a little effort into running maps repeatedly to unlock new maps and this I find a great idea. There is no 2x rank points or 2x token event needed at all. Tokens event will just crash the token bought items prices. Want to unlock new floors? Well put effort into unlocking them. If you're not willing why even care about it? Don't go complain about it simply becaus you don't feel like putting effort into it. And as I said if you have 1 hour or less on a daily basis to play AL I'd suggest you to go find another game.

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I respectfully disagree. Not going to write a long comment, mainly cause no one wants to read that much, but also cause I don't feel like it :p. Anyways, the fact that you brought up quitting because you only have an hour to play a game , which has no real-life value and leaves you with nothing but pixels to show for, is absolutely absurd. Actually, an hour to sit down looking at a screen per day is a very reasonable amount. If you did that alone, you would spend 1/24 of your life on it.

What other game are you suggesting? First of all, this is a mobile game. Mobile games are normally casual options compared to the other massive, time consuming ones on pc's. To those, like yourself, who decide to go all out, kudos to you. But for the majority of the community who don't have that much time, thats why this is a problem. Currently, myself along with alot of veterans, are taking breaks until future notice. To most of us, there is nothing to do, simply because we aren't going to spend that much time for such little reward. Heck, even the majority of the hardcore people who are lightbearer and up said its a boring, daily grind. Why you would want to bore yourself playing a game which is supposed to be fun, is beyond me.

Since that was all over the place, I'll write a conclusion. As a future solution, make it more towards the general public - who can play an average of 30 min to 2 hours a day- by lowering the amount of "points/coins" required, or making another way through.


PS: to everyone making up times about how in an hour you can get 20 runs in at 3 mins a piece (which is 1000-1200 pts), thats garbage. That, assuming you have a social life online and friends, would be without talking to anyone, checking the cs, or any other thing that people do on a daily basis. After everything you do daily is completed, you are left with about 30-40 mins left of time to farm - realistically.

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U dont have time to play? , then dont play,
People who been inside study or stuff like that cant play as well and they dont complain, stop trashing over this game and this new way, if u cant afford items, u will complain about how expensive are em?

Grow up! U have a social life? Great, we have too, and dont complain a game because cant follow it, u and most complain sound so childish!
Stop building a lazy comunity, stop asking for deal easier was to get everything

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So I should quit because this expansion is unrealistic...I'm not lazy by any means but this expansion is extremely tedious and it's making itself boring us people that are complaining have a right to give our opinions on any subject we like so please take you and your rude comments elsewhere

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I respectfully disagree. Not going to write a long comment, mainly cause no one wants to read that much, but also cause I don't feel like it :p. Anyways, the fact that you brought up quitting because you only have an hour to play a game , which has no real-life value and leaves you with nothing but pixels to show for, is absolutely absurd. Actually, an hour to sit down looking at a screen per day is a very reasonable amount. If you did that alone, you would spend 1/24 of your life on it.

What other game are you suggesting? First of all, this is a mobile game. Mobile games are normally casual options compared to the other massive, time consuming ones on pc's. To those, like yourself, who decide to go all out, kudos to you. But for the majority of the community who don't have that much time, thats why this is a problem. Currently, myself along with alot of veterans, are taking breaks until future notice. To most of us, there is nothing to do, simply because we aren't going to spend that much time for such little reward. Heck, even the majority of the hardcore people who are lightbearer and up said its a boring, daily grind. Why you would want to bore yourself playing a game which is supposed to be fun, is beyond me.

Since that was all over the place, I'll write a conclusion. As a future solution, make it more towards the general public - who can play an average of 30 min to 2 hours a day- by lowering the amount of "points/coins" required, or making another way through.


PS: to everyone making up times about how in an hour you can get 20 runs in at 3 mins a piece (which is 1000-1200 pts), thats garbage. That, assuming you have a social life online and friends, would be without talking to anyone, checking the cs, or any other thing that people do on a daily basis. After everything you do daily is completed, you are left with about 30-40 mins left of time to farm - realistically.

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You know I could give you a long essay as well replying to all that you said but you're already taking a break from the game, which already says a lot so I won't waste any of.my time.

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You know I could give you a long essay as well replying to all that you said but you're already taking a break from the game, which already says a lot so I won't waste any of.my time.

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You should write an essay about why so many are taking breaks you'll be shocked