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    Default ***Calling All Arms!***

    PL Community,

    Recently, we have seen a rise in scamming, rudeness, PvP spawning and teaming, and lack of "community" in game. Many have stated their distaste in these issues with little, to no, solution/suggestion on how to attempt to fix this. I bring you a solution: A calling of arms where the educated, close-nit forum community comes to together to attempt to end the ignorance, uneducated, idiocy found in game today. I joined PL at a time where people enjoyed helping. Individuals educated those in need. Respect was given even though a player may not always have been liked. It is time for this community to decide to either make a stand, or completely fold. I choose to take a stand and make that stand now.

    Many of you will say, "But Crim, there are a few of us and a ton of new players. This will never work." My response to you:



    When PL began, the community was much smaller than it is now, but those players set a standard. That standard was set high and followed for quite a while. When some of the players who set this standard began to stop playing, few took the initiative to continue the legacy. Many of us became complacent and fended for ourselves (or a few close friends) and let the new players begin to dictate the direction PL has recently taken. It is time for us to take PL back and bring it back to the type of community we once had.

    Will it be easy? No. As with all changes, people WILL reject. However, there will be those who will embrace it. As with Martin Luther King, Jr. and others like him, it only takes a few to begin a movement. I am tired of the in game rudeness. I am tired of the "cliques." I am especially tired of the ego's and hiding behind "names" to fulfill alternate needs. There are those of us who have the knowledge and respect to make a change. It is, however, a choice. You can either choose to join this "movement" or choose to continue to complain about the problems described above and do nothing about it. I choose change.

    With that said, allow me to introduce my toons. They are in order of level. I am openly inviting anyone who needs assistance in-game, for whatever reason, to add these toons. If you need help with a build, I'm there. If you need advice on an issue, I'm there. When available, I can help farm. When APPROPRIATE, I will help in PvP (meaning, I will help if you are being spawned or teamed unnecessarily. You cause a problem, you deal with it.)

    Without further a due, here are the many faces of Crimsontider:

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    Notice, I included my PvE and PvP stats with each toon. I did this to show others numbers don't matter. Some of my characters have better stats than others. Those toons also came after I learned some hard lessons early in my PL career. KDR absolutely means nothing. BUT, I improved because others took the time to teach. Others took the time to show respect. It is time we become those "others".

    So, the question is simple: Who will join me and who will continue to sit back and complain? Who will put their petty ego's and disagreements aside and learn to exist as one? Who will make that change?

    Isn't THAT what a community truly is?

    Thank you for your time.

    -Crim

    P.S. My toon "army" is still growing. I will update with new toons as they are set in place.
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    I'm about it, props Crim.
    That's the main reason I keep my mains names visible on my sig. That alone has led a lot of people I know and didnt know to hit me up, and they do.
    I should give a shout to Siejo and ARG for giving me that mentality years ago.
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    I really don't know what to say, I liked this thread very much, but If you are asking us to complain, or begin movement, then im with the movement.
    This thread alone convinced me to put chars in sig, ill do it now.
    Great job Crimsontider.

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    Let's do this!

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    Count me in
    Edit: we need some guide lines on how to handle some situations. Report the scamer can't be the only option
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    Ugh, and just met someone in pvp saying someone has his name and pretending to be him, told him countlessly to report, never listened.
    So do we leave ppl who keep complaining and whining even when we give out advice?

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    I always try reasoning with people before reporting. Occasionally I just give them cash and tell them no more scamming.

    Also I will list my characters in sig
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    Yes, attempting a movement like this is a good idea to improve the community. I have seen players bullied, or called a noob (nub and narb aren't any better), and seen people just "hanging out" in balefort talking trash. When I started 2 years ago the community was nice and helpful to any question I asked. I never talk trash and help whenever I can to try to improve the way new players learn the way of the game but with all the other people doing the complete opposite, it makes more of an influence than just me alone. When I get to playing PL again maybe I will help with your movement because like you said. Just like with Martin Luther King Jr and the many people who were influenced by him such as movements for women's freedom and so on, it only takes a few to do a big difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldcoot View Post
    Count me in
    Edit: we need some guide lines on how to handle some situations. Report the scamer can't be the only option
    As far as guidelines, I say keep it simple: Follow the rules, teach the rules. Lead by example. If you need help remembering something, we are a team and we just call upon each other when needed. If you are getting teamed/spawned, send a shout out. If you keep getting booted while trying to farm and no guildies around, ask around. Also, we should use this "movement" to refocus/reinvent our guilds. Look at the Community Guild as an example. But we need guilds like this in PvP as well. (The well known guilds would be perfect for this.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowstar View Post
    Ugh, and just met someone in pvp saying someone has his name and pretending to be him, told him countlessly to report, never listened.
    So do we leave ppl who keep complaining and whining even when we give out advice?
    All you can do is help. If they refuse to listen, you did your part. That is all I am asking.

    Remember guys, if you are having fun, others will too. There will always be bad apples but the greater the movement, the easier it will be to weed through the muck.
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    I hang out in bale sayin all kinds of weird stuff. Half the time I'm selling people for negative gold

    Or selling torches for 9.9m :/
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    Best post these forums have seen in awhile...

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    1:1000

    Against all odds. Let's do this.
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    So true. So true.

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    Crim make a forum group called:
    "The movement"
    Or something awesome
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider:1134852
    Quote Originally Posted by Oldcoot View Post
    Count me in
    Edit: we need some guide lines on how to handle some situations. Report the scamer can't be the only option
    As far as guidelines, I say keep it simple: Follow the rules, teach the rules. Lead by example. If you need help remembering something, we are a team and we just call upon each other when needed. If you are getting teamed/spawned, send a shout out. If you keep getting booted while trying to farm and no guildies around, ask around. Also, we should use this "movement" to refocus/reinvent our guilds. Look at the Community Guild as an example. But we need guilds like this in PvP as well. (The well known guilds would be perfect for this.)

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowstar View Post
    Ugh, and just met someone in pvp saying someone has his name and pretending to be him, told him countlessly to report, never listened.
    So do we leave ppl who keep complaining and whining even when we give out advice?
    All you can do is help. If they refuse to listen, you did your part. That is all I am asking.

    Remember guys, if you are having fun, others will too. There will always be bad apples but the greater the movement, the easier it will be to weed through the muck.
    Will do!
    @srry: sounds good to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sryyoulose View Post
    Crim make a forum group called:
    "The movement"
    Or something awesome
    Done.

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    Count me in! I know many have tried and failed to do this but I have a feeling this will succeed other attempts!
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    Thanks crim, glad to know some peeps want to keep pl alive. So help me if i hear another sex joke or some kids being immature ima go on a muting rampage. And no kdr doesn't matter as long as you're having fun then keep doing what you do. Count me in on this as im beyond tired of hearing things that is so ridiculous that i can't explain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sryyoulose View Post
    Crim make a forum group called:
    "The movement"
    Or something awesome
    I have one of those every morning,
    Don't call it that

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    wow good to know there are ppl out there that care a few of my very close friends have gotten scammed and some lost their accounts lately and havent gotten much support and i see so many people that i am sure are nice ppl that we inclluding myself treat like poop. So i'm in!! Was a good read btw.

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