More Shadow Cave Changes Coming

[Cinco]

Here's a little heads' up on upcoming changes to the elite Shadow Cave based on your feedback...

1 - The One-Way Path Problem - You will now be required to complete 'Victory Lap' before the 'Shadow Cave' teleporter has a chance of spawning.
2 - Teleporter Spawn Rarity - I made the 'Shadow Cave' teleporter more likely to spawn (since now you have to clear VL
3 - Bosses - Making the bosses not spawn sometimes was a very bad choice. The elite 'Shadow Cave' isn't fun without them, so now they're back.
4 - Drop Rates - Boss Monsters keep their drop rates (offering pink items more rarely than AO3 bosses do). Just mentioning 'cause you might be wondering
5 - More Multi-Boss Encounters / Tougher Bosses - I really enjoyed fighting pairs of Shadow D'Jinn. So I added several additional encounters with groups of bosses that are a bit more challenging.

Since there are more bosses it follows that there will be a higher chance of getting boss loot. Not a much higher chance, but a *somewhat* higher chance. Tested all night and it feels pretty fair given the effort of taking down the groups of elite bosses.

Access to the 'Shadow Portal' feels a lot more rare than it did when you just had to wipe out T'Paxx... now that you have to clear VL. However, I feel that it balances out the abundance of boss content in the 'Shadow Caves.'
(You'll see for yourself soon...)

Hope you enjoy it!

- Cinco

[Kossi]

phar,, buy it out lol

[Chubbsy]

Sweet, just make it hard as heck. Tougher boss encounters keep it interesting

[Kossi]

should i buy out?

pros- clear vl spawn portal chance
cons- more bosses, harder sub-bosses

[Echelong]

Wow nice thanks.

One question though? will the portal only open in Tpaxx ir any boss in VL after clearing it?

PS you lied to me I was right that time. :-(

You're smelling something else...

Drop rates are okay, imo.

- Cinco

[Chubbsy]

Oh, also, could you consider giving shadow cave trash mobs trash loot? I'd really like to get some gold mid run in case I pot for bosses

[Lesrider]

Oops just sent you a pm, Cinco, before seeing this. I still think my idea could work with it, tho

[Formora]

Why would you buy out the market? There will be 100% boss spawn and higher drop rate. Just gotta clear Vl first which isn't very hard.

[Cinco]

Wow nice thanks.

One question though? will the portal only open in Tpaxx ir any boss in VL after clearing it?

PS you lied to me I was right that time. :-(

The portal will appear in the main 'Teleport Hub' room (the one you use to go to all of the separate boss encounter areas).

And yes... I lied (Sometimes I lie in the chat room, too.)

- Cinco

[Kossi]

Why would you buy out the market? There will be 100% boss spawn and higher drop rate. Just gotta clear Vl first which isn't very hard.

higher drop rate? where?

[Kossi]

The portal will appear in the main 'Teleport Hub' room (the one you use to go to all of the separate boss encounter areas).

And yes... I lied (Sometimes I lie in the chat room, too.)

- Cinco

like you told me this was going to be out before new years..

[Echelong]

The portal will appear in the main 'Teleport Hub' room (the one you use to go to all of the separate boss encounter areas).

And yes... I lied (Sometimes I lie in the chat room, too.)

- Cinco

lol Thanks. This will help clear some confusion with where it would spawn.

PS Your mom should have thought you that lying is bad lol /jk of course but still bad even if it is a white lie though

[Cinco]

like you told me this was going to be out before new years..

Yes - another one of my many lies! XD

(I have additional lies scheduled to release prior to the 1.7 update... heads' up )

- Cinco

[Lesrider]

If VL has to be cleared, I think something needs to be fixed with the hosting issues in the caves. Keep the same host as in VL and perhaps if the host has to leave, the second person to have joined becomes new host?

And I may get a lot of hate mail for this one -- but if all of VL has to be cleared, I think something needs to be done to keep people from just popping in after it's cleared. Maybe only allow invitees to do so, once the original team is in the shadow caves? (so people aren't stuck with a 4-man team when someone disconnects). I dunno, not sure what can be coded in. But if you really want people to work to get to the cave, they shouldn't be allowed to enter cleared VL games.

Edit: I don't think shadow cave games should show up in the "join" list -- they should all be considered locked games and people have to invite friends if they need an extra person. That would also help the random pop-ins of unwanted guests, even if there is no host. I just think if a team is going through all this effort, they have a right to keep it a closed game.

[Kossi]

Yes - another one of my many lies! XD

(I have additional lies scheduled to release prior to the 1.7 update... heads' up )

- Cinco

cinco.. just wondering for no specific reason.. would YOU buy out the CS?

[Echelong]

Yes - another one of my many lies! XD

(I have additional lies scheduled to release prior to the 1.7 update... heads' up )

- Cinco

o noes.... Hope you didn't lie about the guilds cause then this forum is going to be a complete chaos of whiners.

[Echelong]

If VL has to be cleared, I think something needs to be fixed with the hosting issues in the caves. Keep the same host as in VL and perhaps if the host has to leave, the second person to have joined becomes new host?

And I may get a lot of hate mail for this one -- but if all of VL has to be cleared, I think something needs to be done to keep people from just popping in after it's cleared. Maybe only allow invitees to do so, once the original team is in the shadow caves? (so people aren't stuck with a 4-man team when someone disconnects). I dunno, not sure what can be coded in. But if you really want people to work to get to the cave, they shouldn't be allowed to enter cleared VL games.

+1 I love that idea then no lvl 1s would ruin the run for us.

[Arterra]

sweet!! i can farm overlord again!

[BlasterBird]

I like this, kind of a compromise. More bosses- less drops. Clear vl- shadow portal. Different boss teams- more drops. good boy cinco!


also, 100th post

[Echelong]

sweet!! i can farm overlord again!

Yes we should make a group for tonight.

PS: One "last" question for you Cinco - Do you have to clear the bosses only or all VL? You know we love rushing to the bosses. (I really hope its the bosses only)