Elite Ren Question - The shielder
I am curious with elite Ren' Gol. The mob that is shielder, did he always buff himself + the other mobs or is that a bug after when they increased the difficulty on elites? Didn't he used to only buff the other ones?
Also, I can't see the head symbol on him in elites just the regular maps. What is the deal with this? Just trying to get the correct info and then submit a bug thread...
Thanks all!
he always shields himself in normal maps, but has lesser health than normal orcs
but not in elite since the requested difficulty increase
hence the separation technique
Last edited by extrapayah; 09-07-2015 at 12:05 PM.
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If you would read the elite release announcement,you would know that in elite there has been added a new type of mob:The Orc Gladiator, that buffs the mobs,and himself.Also,the shamans can spawn mobs,and the engineers do some kamikaze stuff.
BTW the gladiator is a seperate mob,so the shielder still remains the same.You can recognize a gladiator by his helmet.
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This is a screenshot I made pre elite buff when I was wondering about the shields. I don't know if that helps and what do you mean by head symbol?
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Right they don't list the shielder in the description and they are in the regular maps. They have Mohawks. I'm just curious if anyone noticed that they now also buff themselves in addition to all of the mobs in elites, or that is a change or bug.
Map 3 regular shielder. Has Mohawk and purple icon above head.
And there is the elite one... No icon on head.
I'm totally confused. I thought there was gladiators (with hat) and the shielding guys who are not listed that have Mohawk.Originally Posted by Dimitrian
Is it same enemy, different looks?
I read the announcement thread,and it looks like it is the same mob.I'm confused too now o.0 i saw the ones with helmet and the ones without it in elite...what.the.heck.
Ikr. I'm sorry for being nub in asking just trying to figure this out. It's extremely hard to find the shielder in elites and without the head icon I'm confused. Also...... Both the Mohawk and the helmet guys do have the Cleaver weapon.
I think its the same mob that shileds in normal maps. Before they ruoned new elites with extreme hp and nothing to loot,when i killed the mohawk guys the shields dropped.
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Tbh what does it matter? Atm nobody farms those elites, because they are bugged, glitched, too hard for the general population and offer no return or reward whatsoever. They are only good for hobby map running: just for fun with the awareness that u gonna make loss
Last edited by Jazzi; 09-08-2015 at 02:47 AM.
Yeah guys your opinions on the maps come on... I am just trying to get some info on running them not the loots.
I think oursizes is right about them both being 'Gladiators', what I have been calling shielders. They have both pointy hats or mohawks in elites, a cleaver, and shield the mobs. I just don't remember before that they shielded themselves. It's REALLY hard to pinpoint them once you do a pull, I have been mostly focusing on their shoulder armor which is pretty big. Wonder why they don't have the icon in elites either though.
1. I can't find a post by a STS staff member, that says the gladiator/shielder/whatever is supposed to shield himself.
2. Contrary to what some here say, this mob did NOT shield himself in normal maps before the elites were tweaked. I clearly remember this from my daily quests - e.g. map 2, last mob group before boss. This guy did not shield himself, now he does.
3. This matters, since it's probably the main reason why elites look harder now. That's my opinion at least. The mobs groups, that do not have a gladiator in them, are still quite easy and fast to kill.
I don't mind the current state of these maps, just trying to clear things a bit.
p.s. There also seems to be some kind of a glitch with this guy, where some mobs remain shielded even after he's dead. I have not tested in detail ofc, but it seems to happen when you pull a second mob group.
Last edited by Tatman; 09-08-2015 at 07:19 AM.
Yes the ones without the shielder are indeed very easy to kill in elites still. If it's broken and he isn't supposed to self-buff that would make sense to me and fix the issue that we are having targeting him in the mob.
I just did 4 more runs ad found 2 more issues:
1. Sometimes when you kill the gladiator (shielder) the shield does not wear off on the buffed mobs
2. The brutes (giants) sometimes not only kill u with your their normal attack, but all rarely kill u without even hitting (I dont have lag)
Lastly I do agree that if the shielder did not buff himself and the shield would wear off when he'd be dead, the maps would have an acceptable difficulty (ofc the obviously glitched brutes must be fixed as well). Nevertheless the maps are still not really appealing to run, as the rewards are abysmal at best.
Yes the Giants are bugged too. The attack sometimes comes before he swings.
I haven't seen the shields remain after the gladiator is down, I'll look for that though. Good catch.
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