PvP is difficult to balance because of HYBRIDS !!

[King Richie]

The devs already said that hybrids bring more option and freedom in the game.
This game is only in it's early stages, so don't expect PvP to be perfect.
Expect some nerfs though.

Shoo shoo !

[Azrael]

Just wait till the Enchantresses get there hands on thoth plate, shield, helm and weapon gear. they all have 7 int, 2 crit, 5 ms, and top end armor.
thats gonna be the highest armor, plus 23-24 ms! and around 30+ crit at least.

/face palm

i don't even know what to say anymore...

[Rebel]

*Whistles innocently*

Who has full thoth? I mean... I don't have it on my pally. I don't have 21 m/s! Don't look at me like that!

[Azrael]

*Whistles innocently*

Who has full thoth? I mean... I don't have it on my pally. I don't have 21 m/s! Don't look at me like that!

Lawl.. course my 13 hs / 11 ms warrior seems to be owning everything... sigh

[tjornan]

Paladins with 21 M/S are invincible with mana shield! FTW

[PvP]

Honestly, I will probably quit this game for good if PvP stays the way it is. I CAN NOT STAND IT!!!!!! I know what to do and every tactic I use is impounded by over-powdered hybrids. This MUST be dealt with. I made a thread about this (in my signature) and no dev has responded to this subject that I've seen. I love the devs, they work hard, but this issue has to be fixed before PvP comes out. It just has to. It is by far unbalanced and now it makes me want to quit because I don't want to start over on a bow bear. I play for PvP, and I thought the dex class was the archer, but no, its really the tank class. By the way, the tank class is the dex and the tank class. Does that make any sense? No. We need something more then we have, and archers need to be given something unique. Enchantress can heal, tanks can tank and do very high DPS, but an archer is just there. We're useless. We get kills, but only if the other player is weakened or messes up, most of the time. It is extremely unbalanced and in most games over half of the people play for PvP. Not everyone will agree with me on this subject, and thats fine, but PvP is by far unbalanced. It must be fixed. The DPS class which should be one of the most powerful classes in most games, is the most under-rated class. I really want to see a dev respond and give some kind of hope to the hundreds of people who have been arguing this topic.

[Banned]

Honestly, I will probably quit this game for good if PvP stays the way it is. I CAN NOT STAND IT!!!!!! I know what to do and every tactic I use is impounded by over-powdered hybrids. This MUST be dealt with. I made a thread about this (in my signature) and no dev has responded to this subject that I've seen. I love the devs, they work hard, but this issue has to be fixed before PvP comes out. It just has to. It is by far unbalanced and now it makes me want to quit because I don't want to start over on a bow bear. I play for PvP, and I thought the dex class was the archer, but no, its really the tank class. By the way, the tank class is the dex and the tank class. Does that make any sense? No. We need something more then we have, and archers need to be given something unique. Enchantress can heal, tanks can tank and do very high DPS, but an archer is just there. We're useless. We get kills, but only if the other player is weakened or messes up, most of the time. It is extremely unbalanced and in most games over half of the people play for PvP. Not everyone will agree with me on this subject, and thats fine, but PvP is by far unbalanced. It must be fixed. The DPS class which should be one of the most powerful classes in most games, is the most under-rated class. I really want to see a dev respond and give some kind of hope to the hundreds of people who have been arguing this topic.

I'm pretty positive it's not hundreds dude. >_>

[PvP]

I'm pretty positive it's not hundreds dude. >_>

Trust me, you'd be surprised.

[Banned]

Trust me, you'd be surprised.

Dude, no. I just can't believe that.

[XghostzX]

pally with full thoth FTW. but on topic hybrids IMO bring the majority of players to this game. Players usually start out as a pure. When they reach the max level, they realize there are tons of hybrids. They respec (in the meaning of having to pay money(, and spacetime studios gets that money, and is "encouraged" (i guess) to make the game better. But really though, i just think hybrids are []D_[]_[]\/[]_[]D_[]_[]\[]

[Banned]

pally with full thoth FTW. but on topic hybrids IMO bring the majority of players to this game. Players usually start out as a pure. When they reach the max level, they realize there are tons of hybrids. They respec (in the meaning of having to pay money(, and spacetime studios gets that money, and is "encouraged" (i guess) to make the game better. But really though, i just think hybrids are []D_[]_[]\/[]_[]D_[]_[]\[]

Agreed. Hybrids are a great fill-in for the lack of classes. No one wants to play the same three professions forever. Without hybrids, there would be a great lack in build variety, and that is where the fun comes from. Of course, by now, the majority of players have already accepted hybrids, and they should be on par, or even weaker then pures after the skill-conversion update.

[BeardedBear]

Lawl.. course my 13 hs / 11 ms warrior seems to be owning everything... sigh

Just wanted to note you should never need more then one thoth item on a warrior. I spam rage/evade/iron/sms/slam/beckon/hellscream nonstop and my mana doesn't even come close to dropping below 1/5th. I'd recommend isis plate and shield (as isis buckler has 4 more armor then thoth shield) , thoth helm and a bad *** one hander.

[Banned]

Just wanted to note you should never need more then one thoth item on a warrior. I spam rage/evade/iron/sms/slam/beckon/hellscream nonstop and my mana doesn't even come close to dropping below 1/5th. I'd recommend isis plate and shield (as isis buckler has 4 more armor then thoth shield) , thoth helm and a bad *** one hander.

Correct. I have one Thoth item (the rest being Isis) on my shiv bear, and have no problems with mana.