From the Main post:This says that every mastery point adds a 2.5% chance of the sapling spawning with 10 skill points maxing it at a 25% chance to spawn a sapling per cast of heal.
The HP return is a maximum of 4%. The player recieves +1% of their max HP per second. I.e., a warrior will regain more HP per second than a mage.
Taking into account that maxing the skill only gives you a 1/4 chance of spawning a stationary heal of 4%, it doesn't seem like a worthwhile mastery.
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Gale Force clearing stat debuffs, Frost Bolt having a chance to freeze any target (even bosses), Arcane Shield's additional damage absorption, and Time Shift having a chance at permanent stun in PvE were the mage highlights imo.
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I wish STS had called this skill specialization, not skill mastery. This is not skill mastery. There are no skill trees, no difficult trials, nothing to earn, and nothing to master. This is exactly the same system as before. You get a skill point each time you level up and spend it. Done.
It was a misnomer to call it skill mastery because that got the hopes of many, including myself, way too high. I know it's partly my fault, but... meh.
That being said, I do like the new skill specializations. Some of them are really cool. Like many players have already stated, some of these skills are still very broken and need to be fixed or there's no point in specializing in them. I am excited to have more options to spend skill points in.
Last edited by Niixed; 02-24-2016 at 07:37 PM.
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I've made the assumption that "weak mobs" refers to the mobs that can currently be rooted by clocks. I.e., basic mele and Archer units, but not armored, large, or specialized units.
I included some math and assumption along with some questions about clocks in an earlier reply.
wew, finally what i'm waiting for
wishing for another new skill will added too
Am at lvl 42 currently and spent all my skill points does that mean that I can't access those masteries?
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hmmmm, sry for being negative, but it will take 40 skill points to completely upgrade all our 4 slotted skills, are you telling us there won't be something new about the skill until we reached lvl 80 cap?
can i ask for skillset switch button instead? :P and increased passive level, not decreased one, non percentage based passive are started to losing its effectiveness....
thanks
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GG sts waited 2 years for this.... Why not make new skills? Instead of adding upgrades to the same old ones.
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Yeah I feel like new skills will be cool too!
i dont see any usefull masteries for rogue except aimed shot in pvp ground, sss aoe upgrades are broken already, adding nox dot lenght is laughable u can stack poison dot dmg twice and nox cd is only 2 sec, veil upgrade lv10 is 2.5dmg ? paragem ftw, trap mastery reduces cd meanwhile we already have adept construction upgrade which allow us to ignore cd , razor shield 10%dmg reduction ? nekro ftw, shadow pierce mastery 10skill points for 5% heal ? we already have 10% heal with shadow absorption with only 1 skill point xD, beside of that u will nerf critical passive kinda saddening me
Is the skill point mastery basically for endgame users?
Cause IF NOT then 10 points into a specific skill to see a good effect is too much and a waste at low lvl pvp....I just tried it and in order to have ten points free I scarificed a lot to get it and I'm lvl 22. There's no joy in making it available starting at 20s if it forces us to sacrifice so much points for such little effects...
Honestly... Majority of players was expecting NEW SKILL TALENTS TO LEARN...NOT mini UPGRADES FOR THE OLD TALENTS THEY LEARNED 3!!!!!!! YEARS AGO! LOL!
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I played this game for 3 years and hoping one day I'll see new skills to learn and all we get is mini upgrades? Nothing really changes in AL expect the campaigns/events... Sts could have made skill mastery with 10 OPTIONS to our old skills for example. Windmill mastery could have 10 different effects to CHOOOOOOSE FROM. Like a vortex that pulls players in. Or another option like a stun. Or a dot option. Or a no GLOBAL COOLDOWN. Or reduced time on windmill. Or a stun immunity option.....etc but that'll be really OP so why not make it to where you can only choose 3 options from that skill mastery you choosed from.....THIS IS MY SUGGESTION.
My suggestion would create a lot more variety just saying -.-
I feel that you guys should implement a PvE/PvP swap-out system, because with a skill system like this, every time people want to PvP and then switch to PvE, they'll have to respec, and vice versa. PvP and PvE builds are different enough, I don't see how it's going to work at all with the mastery system.
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thank you for the heads up
Warrior
Skyward Smash Mastery: Increase the Impact Radius of Skyward Smash by 0.25m per point
(-) no maximum target increase
(+) can get some aoe without charging it
Vengeful Blood Mastery: Vengeful Blood cool down is reduced by 0.5sec per point
(+) a simple upgrade, and work fabulously with other 4 upgrades
Windmill Mastery: Increase Critical chance by 0.25% per point, and increase the maximum number of targets by 1 for every 2 points
(+) the effect multiply greatly with all upgrade, imagine snaring and hitting 8 enemies 4 times in one spell
Rallying Cry Mastery: Add 0.125 STR per point, per level while Rallying Cry is active
(+) a great and explicit scalable upgrade
(-) rally cry have been lacking a lot, i'm hoping for a simple aoe increase
Juggernaut Mastery: Juggernaut cooldown reduced by 0.5 sec per point
(+) simply good
Horn of Renew Mastery: Horn of Renew now adds 0.4 armor per point, per caster level, while the heal over time effect is active
(+) great and scalable,
(-) most players will only feel small benefits, because out of 7.5s effect, we are mostly invulnerable for 3s, and have a great healing over time
Chest Splitter Mastery: Chest Splitter Mana cost reduced by 2% per point
(+) probably good in pvp, but i'm not pvp players
(-) underwhelming in pve
Axe Throw Mastery: Axe Throw applies a DoT that lasts 5 seconds, each tick deals damage and has a 10% chance per point to taunt the afflicted enemy. Ticks every 0.5 seconds.
(+) ultimate taunt, pve only
(-) dot punish players way too much under curse-based spell (and similar mechanic, e.g. healing chance of juggernaut), and we can't control/turn off this upgrade
Rogue
Shadow Storm Mastery: Increase the effective AOE range of Shadow Storm by 0.25m per point, and increase the maximum number of targets by 1 for every 2 points.
(+) can potentially make sss a mobs buster
(-) a bit out of topic: regular upgrade of aoe and increased target are not working
Shadow Veil Mastery: Buffs allies inside Shadow Veil an additional 0.25 Damage per point
(+) simply great
(-) 10 skill points is too expensive for 2.5 damage increase, but then again we have nothing else favorable to upgrade
Shadow Piercer Mastery: Shadow Piercer now heals for an additional 0.5% of players max health per point. This effect stacks with the Shadow Absorption Upgrade.
(+) probably good in pvp
(-) insignificant in pve
Razor Shield Mastery: Reduces damage taken with Razor Shield active by 1.0% per point
(+) might be good
(-) razor has longest cooldown from all rogue's skill (although it is only 20s) but considering the effective time and long cooldown, this upgrade might give a lot lesser benefit than the other
Noxious Bolt Mastery: Increase DoT length 0.4 seconds per point, and DoT tick damage by 1.0% per point
(+) might be the most offensive upgrade from all other skills
(-) punish rogues longer for curse-based spell, and rogue can't manually control it either
Entangling Trap Mastery: Reduces Cooldown of Entangling Trap by 0.25 sec per point
(+) simple but good
Combat Medic Mastery: Medic packs now also replenish 0.33 Mana per point, per character level
(+) give rogues what they need, mana
(-) i don't think 150-ish mana is significant for capped player
Aimed Shot Mastery: Reduce Mana cost of Aim Shot by 2% per point
(+) effects will be greatly multiplied by short cooldown, out of 10 arrows, will get 1 free
(-) too expensive for 10 skill points
(-) less significant in pve
Sorcerer
Arcane Shield Mastery: Increase the amount Arcane Shield can absorb by 1.5% per point
(+) simply great
(-) can't help much against 1hkoes
Curse Mastery: Curse now reduces target's chance to Crit by 1.0% per point.
(+) great, but i don't think curse is an easy to be used skill
(-) too expensive for 10 skill points
(-) a so-so upgrade for unpopular skill
Fireball Mastery: Reduce Mana Cost of fireball by 2% per point
(-) pretty sure mage doesn't need mana discount for this 4s cooldown spell
Frost Bolt Mastery: Frost Bolt has a 0.4% chance per point to freeze an enemy, boss, or player for 2 seconds
(+) give mage a real chance to be useful in boss fights without relying on weapons
(-) 4% chance in every 3s spell is too sad, take an example at 10% panic chance for each second in samael's passive, yet no one using samael for boss fight, please consider the frequency too
Gale Force Mastery: Casting Gale Force adds a buff that lasts 0.4 seconds per point, and ticks every 0.4 seconds. Each tick removes any negative effects on the Sorcerer. (Bleed, slow, freeze, stun, etc)
(+) nuff said, the best defensive upgrade in my opinion, just wish i can control gale when to dash, and when to not
Lifegiver Mastery: Lifegiver Sapling - there is a 2.5% chance per point to spawn a sapling at a healed group members location. Saplings remain stationary, and heal any allies within a 4m radius for 1% health per tick at a rate of one tick per seconds for 4 seconds. If a player remains in that location they will heal for 4% of their max life over 4 seconds.
(=) what effect is upgraded by each mastery point is not explicitly described here, might be good/bad
Lightning Mastery: Increases Lightning Damage by 1% per point
(+) simply good
Time Shift Mastery: Time Shift has a 0.35% chance per tick to freeze weaker enemies in between time and space indefinitely, stunning them permanently. Weaker enemies do not include players or bosses.
(+) great, especially taking consideration that it can happen each ticks
(-) way too specific benefit, only for weak mobs which can easily frozen/knocked down
damage passive -> thank you for the change, although i think it is too small for 1 skill points, let's say without a pet a rogue can reach 700 damage with 400% bonus damage, a previous 5% damage can give the rogue 35 damage, but with this, the rogue can only get 10 damage... barely far from equal effectiveness. the difference will be less for warrior though.
crit passive -> mixed feeling on this, as i don't think 5% is too big for 5 skill points
skill point is expensive, for many of the upgrades, i think you failed to value the greatness for each skill point
also for some upgrade you didn't correctly consider the frequency for each skill, applied effects on ticks, and cooldown of spells need to be thought carefully
Last edited by extrapayah; 02-25-2016 at 06:34 AM.
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