PVP Updates: Proposed Balance Changes PART 2 (7/22/2016)

**intrepd** · 07-22-2016, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by yubaraj

Whoever is talking about curse? Do you guys really know anything about curse? Do you know how it works?

Don't make me laugh plz.

Tell us how curse works then

**Shelllz** · 07-22-2016, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by Amsosorry

So easy to say, coming form one of does players who loves stacking mages in tdm rooms.

Ur telling me I love stacking mages.....I actually dont. I have explained 10000000 times that we have no rogues available a. At our time zone b. With good ping c. With gear.

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**Shelllz** · 07-22-2016, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by resurrected

Actually i was playing clash as rogue. What most mages do is use shield rush to rogue for curse and hides again. There is low chance that you won't be affected by curse while mages aim rogues first then tanks.

If mages are using curse u must be a twink. Curse hasn't been used in end game since 41-46 cap even though rogues use nox.

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**intrepd** · 07-22-2016, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by DAmage126

rogues want sts to give them everything right on their plate and its seems that the slightest disadvantage causes complaints. Cant expect to have everything while the other classes have to work around their disadvantages

Any smart rogue or even a player can just figure out that this is not a buff for rogues, what advantage? Rogues are not even used in a clash

**resurrected** · 07-22-2016, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by Shelllz

If mages are using curse u must be a twink. Curse hasn't been used in end game since 41-46 cap

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I actually saw few mages in endgame using curse such as trickbatcher and runagain.

**Shelllz** · 07-22-2016, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by resurrected

I actually saw few mages in endgame using curse such as trickbatcher and runagain.

Not sure why. It's a very useless skill atm.

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**intrepd** · 07-22-2016, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by Shelllz

If mages are using curse u must be a twink. Curse hasn't been used in end game since 41-46 cap even though rogues use nox.

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Curse is good for twinks yes and its perfect skill to counter nox, so buffing nox will not help anything, there should be another way to balance

**Oaheuzihar** · 07-22-2016, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by Shelllz

If mages are using curse u must be a twink. Curse hasn't been used in end game since 41-46 cap even though rogues use nox.

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Yea the only problem i can see is this might screw up twink pvp. But then again, it already got flipped on its head when the level brackets got switched around lol.

**resurrected** · 07-22-2016, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by Shelllz

Not sure why. It's a very useless skill atm.

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They used it in vs rogues. I dont know about clash.

**Shelllz** · 07-22-2016, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by resurrected

They used it in vs rogues. I dont know about clash.

Maybe in vs. I don't vs so idk. But in clashes it's useless due to nekro and 3 tank stack

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**yubaraj** · 07-22-2016, 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by intrepd

Tell us how curse works then

I will only tell you that 200% poison or 100% poison damage whatever even 500%. It does not make any difference to curse damage reflection.

Btw curse cooldown is long and radius it cover is so low. So don't assume that curse gonna help to counter this buff.

**resurrected** · 07-22-2016, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by Shelllz

Maybe in vs. I don't vs so idk. But in clashes it's useless due to nekro and 3 tank stack

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So none will use curse in clash cause on opposite side wont be any rogue, seems logical.

**extrapayah** · 07-22-2016, 05:25 PM

as far as i know, return damage from curse (in this game) doesn't take account on how high/low the received damage is, as long as it's not zero damage, which i think is not right, because simply the punishment is not proportional

so, with the current curse/return damage system, this nox change is totally an upgrade/buff

**intrepd** · 07-22-2016, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by yubaraj

I will only tell you that 200% poison or 100% poison damage whatever even 500%. It does not make any difference to curse damage reflection.

Btw curse cooldown is long and radius it cover is so low. So don't assume that curse gonna help to counter this buff.

Even with the same damage as before rogues are going to die by curse if they nox? Go try it out? Grab 1 of ur team and 1 rogue against ask her to nox while u curse

**Deathclaw** · 07-22-2016, 05:26 PM

The curse ability needs to work on mages again , its one of the ways to counter mage stacking in my opinion since mages rely on dot to do damage. The curse ability would make mages to force to activate their shield which will effect their survivability in pvp. I think sts should take a look at the curse ability to be able to work on mages again since nowadays they can avoid the curse ability by just activating their shield.

**Shelllz** · 07-22-2016, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by extrapayah

as far as i know, return damage from curse (in this game) doesn't take account on how high/low the received damage is, as long as it's not zero damage, which i think is not right, because simply the punishment is not proportional

so, with the current curse/return damage system, this nox change is totally an upgrade/buff

+1
Thank you

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**Niixed** · 07-22-2016, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by Maabegalu

useless buff....

Don't be so obnoxious, Devs are brilliant to take small steps/non-threatening increments.

**DAmage126** · 07-22-2016, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by intrepd

Any smart rogue or even a player can just figure out that this is not a buff for rogues, what advantage? Rogues are not even used in a clash

I didnt say this was an advantage or a disadvantage im saying that every class will have its flaws in pvp and thats how it works. Last time they reworked aim shot a bit and people couldn't stop complaining about something that was a bug not even a nerf. This time they give a buff and people are still unhappy about it. If you learned to work around the problem it is a buff regardless

**intrepd** · 07-22-2016, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by Shelllz

Not sure why. It's a very useless skill atm.

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Exactly because no one uses rogue anymore and this skill is mostly to counter rogues

**Shelllz** · 07-22-2016, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by intrepd

Exactly because no one uses rogue anymore and this skill is mostly to counter rogues

As I said. Even with a rogue in clash curse is useless. It has nothing to do with not using a rogue. The skill is easy countered, long cd, and a small area affected. Useless skill in a clash.

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