End-game balance

[Seminole]

So no changes to health pool? No changes to level 9 skills? No changes to crit or the 95+ dodge? Gg pvp will stay broken, ill keep my 50 dollars next cap.

[Everyone'sFavMage]

Listen to ghost absolutepally, flawless thelonestud and otukura. Could not agree more with every statement they made. Especially ghosts post about pvpers helping out with the REBALENCe. THIS IS WHAT IS NEEDED. You need actual experienced pvpers to fix pvp. Simple as that. Take a group of people and let them run some tests and give some ideas. I know there are quite a few very experienced players who can help out.

[TEOKILLO]

Well, if they took a few ppl you would be jeles of them becuz you wouldnt be pick

[Everyone'sFavMage]

.-. Not to be touchey but pvp needs rebalencing across all levels, and with 23 twinks in the lvl 50-71 range I would say im experienced for this lvl range.
And even if I don't get picked. I just want pvp fixed.

[Seminole]

Listen to ghost absolutepally, flawless thelonestud and otukura. Could not agree more with every statement they made. Especially ghosts post about pvpers helping out with the REBALENCe. THIS IS WHAT IS NEEDED. You need actual experienced pvpers to fix pvp. Simple as that. Take a group of people and let them run some tests and give some ideas. I know there are quite a few very experienced players who can help out.

Dont need a bunch of kids trying to fix a broken system. Im sure the devs can figure it out on their own they just need to put in some effort if they want to save their game.

[XghostzX]

Listen to ghost absolutepally, flawless thelonestud and otukura. Could not agree more with every statement they made. Especially ghosts post about pvpers helping out with the REBALENCe. THIS IS WHAT IS NEEDED. You need actual experienced pvpers to fix pvp. Simple as that. Take a group of people and let them run some tests and give some ideas. I know there are quite a few very experienced players who can help out.

Dont need a bunch of kids trying to fix a broken system. Im sure the devs can figure it out on their own they just need to put in some effort if they want to save their game.

Yeah, just a bunch of kids ._.

Semi, I'm pretty sure if it wasn't for us "kids", and our feedback through the forums, PvP rebalancing wouldn't have even been acknowledged by the devs.

[Everyone'sFavMage]

^^^ I'll thank that when I get moar thx.

[Seminole]

Yeah, just a bunch of kids ._.

Semi, I'm pretty sure if it wasn't for us "kids", and our feedback through the forums, PvP rebalancing wouldn't have even been acknowledged by the devs.

Didnt mean to sound crude or rude, im a kid myself. Well teen. Anyway, what i mean is that devs are experienced and trained in many many many years of experience. They have college degrees and specialize in these areas. They know what is best for their game. Yes you may have played pvp since day one, but do you have the slightest idea in any of the mechanics of a game? Would you know what is best for pvp and pve? You may be able to throw a couple stats around but do u have any idea how that would effect all levels of pvp/pve including item sets and bonuses. Again dont mean to sound rude but if they let a bunch of kids try to run the game it runs the risk of totally ruining everything. I rather have experienced educated developers that are willing to take the time to look into this issue and fix the problem while keeping our suggestions into consideration.

Would you let a kid cut your hair? Or would you rather have a professional barber who specializes in haircuts do that? Would you want a kid to tutor you in a college course or would you rather have a proffessor who specializes in that area? You get the point. And yes their are many geniuses out in the world that are relatively young. If you are one of these kid geniuses then i apologize. However the chances of this are relatively slim.

[XghostzX]

Didnt mean to sound crude or rude, im a kid myself. Well teen. Anyway, what i mean is that devs are experienced and trained in many many many years of experience. They have college degrees and specialize in these areas. They know what is best for their game. Yes you may have played pvp since day one, but do you have the slightest idea in any of the mechanics of a game? Would you know what is best for pvp and pve? You may be able to throw a couple stats around but do u have any idea how that would effect all levels of pvp/pve including item sets and bonuses. Again dont mean to sound rude but if they let a bunch of kids try to run the game it runs the risk of totally ruining everything. I rather have experienced educated developers that are willing to take the time to look into this issue and fix the problem while keeping our suggestions into consideration.

Would you let a kid cut your hair? Or would you rather have a professional barber who specializes in haircuts do that? Would you want a kid to tutor you in a college course or would you rather have a proffessor who specializes in that area? You get the point. And yes their are many geniuses out in the world that are relatively young. If you are one of these kid geniuses then i apologize. However the chances of this are relatively slim.

Yes, I'm well aware that you didn't try to sound rude. However, I know more about stats and game mechanics than you think, it's your opinion that will decide if you believe me or not. I truly think that the players can provide insightful feedback if they gathered a bunch of PvPers from all levels.

[Everyone'sFavMage]

Again, agreed with William.

[Waug]

How funny, even who doesn't pvp in endgame (clearly stated also), judging comments and trying to pretend, which comment is valid.

[Everyone'sFavMage]

I've pvped at every cap since sewers except black smoke mountain. I have lots of friends who play this cap and are disgusted with it though. And I have a few lvl 71s that I pvp with and can even see it there.

[Hadesofshadow]

Didnt mean to sound crude or rude, im a kid myself. Well teen. Anyway, what i mean is that devs are experienced and trained in many many many years of experience. They have college degrees and specialize in these areas. They know what is best for their game. Yes you may have played pvp since day one, but do you have the slightest idea in any of the mechanics of a game? Would you know what is best for pvp and pve? You may be able to throw a couple stats around but do u have any idea how that would effect all levels of pvp/pve including item sets and bonuses. Again dont mean to sound rude but if they let a bunch of kids try to run the game it runs the risk of totally ruining everything. I rather have experienced educated developers that are willing to take the time to look into this issue and fix the problem while keeping our suggestions into consideration.

Would you let a kid cut your hair? Or would you rather have a professional barber who specializes in haircuts do that? Would you want a kid to tutor you in a college course or would you rather have a proffessor who specializes in that area? You get the point. And yes their are many geniuses out in the world that are relatively young. If you are one of these kid geniuses then i apologize. However the chances of this are relatively slim.

please tell me this post is a joke

please

[Seminole]

please tell me this post is a joke

please

Umm no... whats a joke is kids trying to program a game since they have two years playing video game experience on their resume lol.

[Seminole]

^^^ I'll thank that when I get moar thx.

Good to see you two are giving each other thanks, since you seem so desperate for a thanks ill give you one as well

[azefekie]

What's funny is someone thinking that the game devs don't look at feedback and try to find a solution, devs don't join pvp anymore and they aren't aware of a lot of the problems first hand. Many of the people that play these games have degrees just like the STS members, no need to try and act like it's only "kids" that play their games.

Umm no... whats a joke is kids trying to program a game since they have two years playing video game experience on their resume lol.

[azefekie]

Yeah, just a bunch of kids ._.

Semi, I'm pretty sure if it wasn't for us "kids", and our feedback through the forums, PvP rebalancing wouldn't have even been acknowledged by the devs.

ouch oh burn! ow! burn! whoa on fire ow burn * runs around in a circle flailing arms*



EDIT- ghost still waiting for you to sign my shield! When i all gwown up i wanna be jus like uuuu

[XghostzX]

Yeah, just a bunch of kids ._.

Semi, I'm pretty sure if it wasn't for us "kids", and our feedback through the forums, PvP rebalancing wouldn't have even been acknowledged by the devs.

ouch oh burn! ow! burn! whoa on fire ow burn * runs around in a circle flailing arms*



EDIT- ghost still waiting for you to sign my shield! When i all gwown up i wanna be jus like uuuu

I gotchu bro!! Here's some ice fo dat burnnnn

[Rushorgtfo]

Yay Pvp might be fun again

[Noodleleg]

Mmm... A PvP Legends beta... Seems legit.