One thing people are doing is using the plat to gold exchange rate as a measuring stick for an items real dollar value. That is wrong. The economy has far outgrown the sts exchange. If anyone is buying gold with plat to purchase one of these items, they are either very wealthy...or dumb.
In the words of a good friend of mine. At least that's my opinion on it.
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Blame the people who buys plat to convert to gold in the first place, because of them, lots of gold are added in the game, and once there's more money in game, the items can be more and more expensive, and once items more expensive, they buy plat for gold again to get what they want, it'll just get worst.
If it wasn't for them, most items wont be that expensive cuz it'll be hard to have 1m from dailies, liquidating items, and selling items (cheep cuz others cant afford)
even the mythics and arcanes wont be that expensive, cuz not much people will have enough money for a 1m item without plat
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You can only get these items through merching. Because if you made 100k a day farming (achievable without plat). Then thats only 3 million gold in a month. Its still not enough to buy some of these items. Also these items prices are being kept artificially high by a few. So the end game is merching. Its not farming or elite. If you use a lot of plat I guess you can make more by farming. But to purchase something for 10 mill you need to make over 300k a day. And given the current economy and drop rates, in my opinion its impossible through farming alone with or without plat. Even if you are opening tons of crates and using luck elixirs. Maybe now with the plat mines you can increase your earning potential. But as I previously stated, the end game is merching and once you reach a certain level, thats all that there is left to do.
Yep, I agree 100% with the OP. The casual aspect of the game started going down the drain when they changed the gold cap to the ridculous amount it is now. Smh.
I think it's b/c some items had a street value well over the gold cap and to prevent "scamming" aka multiple trades so the only logical thing to do was to up the gold cap.
But really the forums only represents a small minority of the players that play this game. In game I hardly see these type of rants and frustrations but whenever I come on forums, I'd see all sorts of unhappy players venting their frustrations I guess.
Guys, sorry to say that many of your are jealous whiners. I'm an adult, I own my own business, I pay the rent (home and office), car payment, etc. And in AL once every couple of months I buy a 1700 plat pack. I just bought my third this weekend (since the game started last Fall).
For the first time this weekend I opened locked crates. I opened 50 of them, and got a bunch of worthless pinks. I've never used plat to purchase gold. Yet I have a mythic helm and now this weekend I spent most of my gold (8 million) to buy a mythic gun. I got my gold by playing the game, not by purchasing it with plat, not by scamming people, etc. I play the game, save my money, and buy the items I want.
Just play and stop with all the BS. One would wonder how you manage to enjoy your every day life. If someone having a better video game weapon than you do bothers you so much, how do you feel when you drive down the street and someone else drives a better car, or has a bigger house, or has nicer clothes?
Sorry, but this game is very much like real life. If as someone suggested, they were to limit the game to 1m total gold, then most of the regulars who support this game would become very bored after a month or two and would move onto other games. Someone else mentioned the best economy in this game is in Star Legends? If that is the case, then why do you play AL? Shouldn't you be playing SL? I will tell you why.....because SL hasn't had an update in how long? That's because everyone was bored with that game and left.
AL is STS's most successful game by far. The reason for this success is the economy, nothing else. The revenue a game brings in is proportional to how many updates and new items you get on a regular basis. If there is no reason for rich players to spend thousands of plat, then the game dies. That is the reality. If you don't like that reality, then you should find a game that's not "free to play" and has a monthly fee like WOW. But even in those games you will have players like Love and myself who are merchants and become "rich" by playing the game and not by spending plat. So even in WOW you are going to have those insanely expensive items and those few rich players that can afford them. You just won't have newbies come in and buy their way to being rich, which is what you sometimes have in AL.
BTW, there shouldn't be any "gold cap" at all anymore than there should be a limit on how many kills you can get, or how many flags you can run, etc. There should be no limits on success. Once you place those limits, people will leave the game once they achieve those limits as they will be bored.
Last edited by Energizeric; 05-12-2013 at 09:31 PM.
That's just it ppl. AL is no longer for the casual player. It is no longer a "mobile" game a average person can pop on for a few and be successful. Once you accept that you can 1. Quit or grind like no other for what you want. Me? Being a military man, don't have have loads of time to farm( too busy saving life's and kickin a**...lol). So, I open my wallet from time to time to keep up with the "jones". Ill repeat, grind for hours a day, buy gold or spam crates. Personal, I rather stack gold and by exactly what I want rather than gamble on crates. To end, don't buy crates...yeah said it. Let the "high rollers" buy em. Stack you're gold and buy the items themselves. Take the control back, if sellers had "All" the power you wouldn't see so much undercuts on the market.
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@Energizeric: Smh. Refrain from calling ppl jealous just because you spend money and they -choose- not to. If anything, we represent the aspect of the game that is supposed to be casual when its not, not relying on plat when it is, and not focusing on wheeling in money vs making it entirely more difficult for the f2p casual users to play. This really has nothing to do with "omgzorz y joo get all the good stuff n we dont?!?" no. Its more about wanting them to stick to their word and making the game fun again for those of us who simply choose not to pay hella money to play a game we hardly have time to spend on (or in my case, don't choose to spend that much anymore period). One example of this are the elixirs, which 9 times out of 10 don't last long enough between finding a party or a PuG with players what won't leave half way into the runs... and actually reaching the boss before it expires (which often than not, they expire way before reaching the boss or right before he dies). Especially luck elixir, which doesn't even roll at all sometimes.
If they really wanted this game to be -completely- p2p they would have given a subscription option upon release. Hence why players like us (who come on here and complain) are the ones they listen to. Problem is, they don't really -hear- us. For example, we've asked for items of hella rare type to be dropped and instead they make us pay for a mere -chance- at getting them rather than farming for them.
This is all much more than some silly jealously act so don't insult your fellow peer players by saying that.
The reason why that there is so much money in the top 1% of AL is because of the fact that people converted platinum to gold. So yes, a lot of the rich people initially used hundreds of dollars to get gold.
As time goes on and more money is in the economy, the platinum to gold conversion is not worth as much.
In the beginning, 2m was a lot & it could be used A LOT to earn profits which was why people bought plat to gold. Now, not so much. Also, since the plat to gold conversion is not worth it anymore, the rich stay rich and the poor stay poor unless you are lucky with drops and merch your way up.
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Still doing Nordr runs without lix and within my 300th run today without any re roll lix.. still no sight of a pink weapon :/ anyone here actually got a pink without a reroll?
In my honest opinion, the crate system is one unique way of easing the pain of having to farm with the chance of getting a drop that's worth more than the "legendaries", not bad. The thing is, only those who have platinum can afford to participate in this activity, which somehow creates an imbalance and a cleavage to those who actually spend time to "FARM" and those who can pay with plat.
I remember this one game (don't tell me to go and play that game instead cause heck I know what I'm doing) which has the same method (crate system) but the thing is, they actually let those who cannot pay zens (counterpart of plat) to participate by opening using in game currency. I really don't see anything wrong with having to let people open crates for a price of 15k gold.
Still I stand firm to the principle of " Those who farm and work harder should be rewarded more than those who take the easy way out "
Last edited by Limsi; 05-13-2013 at 12:36 AM.
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Yes I have seen it and I got one on Mount Spyr. I got a level 30 Nordr Jewel of Potency. Using a luck elixir I got a level 31 Nordr Jewel of Brutality. So if you are going for a specific pink, I would recommend using a luck elixir. You have a better chance and only farm with a fast team. So you can maximum your rerolls.
[QUOTE=Limsyoker;1093143]Still doing Nordr runs without lix and within my 300th run today without any re roll lix.. still no sight of a pink weapon :/ anyone here actually got a pink without a reroll?
I got a pink in tombs and hauntlet b4..
however with the insane event over..most pink weapon/amour are worthless already....unless it is insanely good.
Its just a matter of time... when level cap comes those items become obsolete either mythic or arcane ... just wait n watch.. enjoy da game.. i enjoy chat the most.... ^_^
I have seen many online games where the price of the items is super expensive and thus needing to spend real life money to get those items.
What will happen to those online games? There will be a small amount of players who have the best gears and spend much with real life money.
There will be another small amount of players who are low and new players.
There will be much players who can spend time but not much real life money and leave the game.
In the end we left with 2 type of players which is those elite players and new players.
So what will happen to these players? Elite player will feel bored with so less players online and eventually quit the game.
Newly players will play and only few will be able to become elite players leaving those newly players quitting the game.
This game has potential but please let those players with enough time to farm stays as these players makes the elite players playing.
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